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RUN GMC · 10-19-2015, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RUN GMC

In for a set just because........thanks for the heads up.............

My two sets arrived last week....never hurts to stock up or have trade items later on..........

Joe69C10 · 10-28-2015, 02:12 PM

My springs shipped yesterday. (was originally estimated for Nov. 2nd) Anyone else get these and cut them yet? I did a flip kit in the rear and was wondering if I should start with 1 coil or go a little more. The back is sitting pretty low.

Ive got CPP drop spindles up front so far, and whatever the cut springs give me.

This picture is before I did anything up front & just finished the rear flip.

**lolife99** · 10-28-2015, 02:59 PM

Usually 1/2 coil= 1" of drop.
1 coil = 2" of drop.
1-1/2 coils= 3" of drop.

Be conservative on the cutting.
I never cut more than 1-1/2 coils.

Joe69C10 · 10-28-2015, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

Usually 1/2 coil= 1" of drop.
1 coil = 2" of drop.
1-1/2 coils= 3" of drop.

Be conservative on the cutting.
I never cut more than 1-1/2 coils.

Thanks, Ill probably start with 1 coil then.

solidaxel · 10-28-2015, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe69C10

Thanks, Ill probably start with 1 coil then.

Take a pic when your are finished

Joe69C10 · 10-28-2015, 03:49 PM

No problem. I post one up when I finish. Hopefully this weekend.

Fatherof3 · 10-28-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski

You shouldn't be cutting coil springs to begin with.

65standard · 10-28-2015, 07:43 PM

With those summit racing 1-ton coils, I cut off about an inch less than 1 1/2 coils. The free standing height was 11 15/16" after I was done trimming. Here it is now.

Note that my truck is a V8 with air so it maybe heavier than others.

SkinnyG · 10-28-2015, 11:03 PM

I cut one coil off the 1-ton springs, and am using 3-inch spindles.

school boy · 10-29-2015, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 65standard

With those summit racing 1-ton coils, I cut off about an inch less than 1 1/2 coils. The free standing height was 11 15/16" after I was done trimming. Here it is now.

Note that my truck is a V8 with air so it maybe heavier than others.

Whats your tires size?

65standard · 10-29-2015, 02:15 PM

265/70-15 all around

And I have 2 1/2" drop spindles

bigblock73 · 10-29-2015, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski

You shouldn't be cutting coil springs to begin with.

Cutting coils in MODERATION is fine, HEATING coils is a big no-no. The OP went off the deep end, with no research obviously, and whacked 2 coils...that will never work...inner fenders or not. The internet is a great thing, you can research anything pretty quick and determine the best way to approach most anything (much of which has been covered on this board a billion times).

izzy_Britton · 10-31-2015, 02:28 AM

I just clicked ADD TO CART and selected shipping method. 14$ and change. then i thought about it for a second and thought get a second pair just for fun, cant beat the price right?

well now i can add the springs to my kart but i am unable to select shipping. so i think they caught on, JUST NOW! or my computer is having issues with the checkout process. BAH!

-Izzy

izzy_Britton · 10-31-2015, 02:33 AM

WELL S&*$@! S&*$@! S&*$@!

I was able to order the parts on from my phone, but my fat fingers and the little screen resulted in ordering 3! sets of springs. S&*$@! S&*$@! S&*$@!

paid paypal so its a done deal. oh well i guess.

-Izzy

solidaxel · 10-31-2015, 09:39 AM

So does that mean you have 29 sets of springs you need to get rid of?

You should be able to offer them to the board if they are no longer available.
I received mine two days ago, HEAVY box!

Jay2Cor517 · 10-31-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mcmlxix

Holy OOPS Batman ... I ordered a set too and I don't even need them right now... I though you had a typo in your post till I checked out the site...

I guess I couldn't help myself either. After reading this thread (actually while i was in the middle of it, LOL), I ordered set even though I don't need them right now. THOSE ARE JUNKYARD PRICES!!!

HotRod C/10 · 10-31-2015, 12:01 PM

ordered 2 sets for future projects

**MikeB** · 10-31-2015, 01:15 PM

Not sure about our trucks, but on many vehicles, 1.0" spring movement is around 1.7" at the wheel. So, if cutting 2 coils shortens the spring by 3" (just a guess here), that results in 5" at the wheel. However, the spring gets stiffer with fewer coils, so the net result may be closer to 4" at the wheel. I know many guys don't take those facts into consideration when whacking springs. Edit: I just read a post above saying it's a 1:2 ratio. Even more than I thought!

Still haven't decided how to lower my truck, but am leaning towards aftermarket springs designed for 2"-3" drop AT THE WHEEL. And the ride should be less bone-jarring than with cut coils. My truck has 8" rally wheels, and it sounds like most, if not all, dropped spindles won't clear them. True?

TrailerTrash · 10-31-2015, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeB

My truck has 8" rally wheels, and it sounds like most, if not all, dropped spindles won't clear them. True?

I have heard that Western Chassis is the company to go with for spindles that clear 8 inch rallies.

i have 7 inch rallies up front and im going to Western Chassis for spindles and a shackle/hanger kit. plus i orders a set of the summit springs because why not and they are out of stock but are estimated to ship November 4th

izzy_Britton · 11-01-2015, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by solidaxel

So does that mean you have 29 sets of springs you need to get rid of?

Read that again SolidAxel

3 Three sets of springs. that would have been a giant screw up and i would have put a stop to that order in a heartbeat.

-Izzy

bbbc10 · 11-01-2015, 04:37 AM

western chassis spindles will clear 8" only ones that will

RootBeerFXS · 11-01-2015, 07:00 AM

I put McGaughys MMC-33153 from Summit on mine and they clear my 8 inch rallies just fine. I thought i was going to have to trim them but lucked out I guess.

RDrancher · 11-01-2015, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RootBeerFXS

I put McGaughys MMC-33153 from Summit on mine and they clear my 8 inch rallies just fine. I thought i was going to have to trim them but lucked out I guess.

What size tires?

Just ordered a set of the one tons springs for the Suburban drop. Unbelievable price!

RootBeerFXS · 11-01-2015, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RDrancher

What size tires?

Just ordered a set of the one tons springs for the Suburban drop. Unbelievable price!

255/60-15 on 15x8 in front
275/60-15 on 15x8 in rear in this pic.

solidaxel · 11-01-2015, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by solidaxel

So does that mean you have 29 sets of springs you need to get rid of?

You should be able to offer them to the board if they are no longer available.
I received mine two days ago, HEAVY box!

What a deal !!

These springs were sent with a certificate worth $20.00 on my next buy over $100.00 from Summit

Not bad for some 8.00 springs!

These new springs seem to be much heaver than the stock springs?

10-28-2015, 02:12 PM	#27
Joe69C10 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ocala,FL Posts: 129	Re: Front suspension drop failure My springs shipped yesterday. (was originally estimated for Nov. 2nd) Anyone else get these and cut them yet? I did a flip kit in the rear and was wondering if I should start with 1 coil or go a little more. The back is sitting pretty low. Ive got CPP drop spindles up front so far, and whatever the cut springs give me. This picture is before I did anything up front & just finished the rear flip.

10-28-2015, 02:59 PM	#28
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Front suspension drop failure Usually 1/2 coil= 1" of drop. 1 coil = 2" of drop. 1-1/2 coils= 3" of drop. Be conservative on the cutting. I never cut more than 1-1/2 coils. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

10-28-2015, 03:49 PM	#31
Joe69C10 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ocala,FL Posts: 129	Re: Front suspension drop failure No problem. I post one up when I finish. Hopefully this weekend.

10-28-2015, 07:43 PM	#33
65standard Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Coal City, IL Posts: 695	Re: Front suspension drop failure With those summit racing 1-ton coils, I cut off about an inch less than 1 1/2 coils. The free standing height was 11 15/16" after I was done trimming. Here it is now. Note that my truck is a V8 with air so it maybe heavier than others. Attached Images __________________ Tony Nicholas @ Midwest Metal Masters 1953 Chevy 3100 392 Hemi w/727 & 9” Ford 1985 Chevy C/10 6.0L 4L80 373 locker

10-28-2015, 11:03 PM	#34
SkinnyG Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Beautiful BC, Canada, eh?! Posts: 2,267	Re: Front suspension drop failure I cut one coil off the 1-ton springs, and am using 3-inch spindles. __________________ 1961 Apache: "Grabber Orange" Shortboxed, pancake, step-notch, air-ride, turbo, LS 1977 Silverado: Shortboxed & dropped, potato-potato V8 Pontiac Firefly (Chevy Sprint): The ultimate engine swap: 5.7L in a 1.0L bag Lotus Super 7 Replica: Scratch-built street-legal rollerskate

10-29-2015, 02:15 PM	#36
65standard Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Coal City, IL Posts: 695	Re: Front suspension drop failure 265/70-15 all around And I have 2 1/2" drop spindles __________________ Tony Nicholas @ Midwest Metal Masters 1953 Chevy 3100 392 Hemi w/727 & 9” Ford 1985 Chevy C/10 6.0L 4L80 373 locker

10-31-2015, 02:28 AM	#38
izzy_Britton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 632	Re: Front suspension drop failure I just clicked ADD TO CART and selected shipping method. 14$ and change. then i thought about it for a second and thought get a second pair just for fun, cant beat the price right? well now i can add the springs to my kart but i am unable to select shipping. so i think they caught on, JUST NOW! or my computer is having issues with the checkout process. BAH! -Izzy __________________ WHO_DCTC - Wifes 05 Z-71 Build - Now defunct as she decided she wants an Escalade too Cream Puff - LS'd Square - Slow going on the back burner Tripple Threat - 3 Wrecks for the price of one build thread Project Delongdium - Step-Sons Plastic Clad 2003 Avalanche - DONE and Delivered.

10-31-2015, 02:33 AM	#39
izzy_Britton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 632	Re: Front suspension drop failure WELL S&$@! S&$@! S&$@! I was able to order the parts on from my phone, but my fat fingers and the little screen resulted in ordering 3! sets of springs. S&$@! S&$@! S&$@! paid paypal so its a done deal. oh well i guess. -Izzy __________________ WHO_DCTC - Wifes 05 Z-71 Build - Now defunct as she decided she wants an Escalade too Cream Puff - LS'd Square - Slow going on the back burner Tripple Threat - 3 Wrecks for the price of one build thread Project Delongdium - Step-Sons Plastic Clad 2003 Avalanche - DONE and Delivered.

10-31-2015, 09:39 AM	#40
solidaxel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cactus Patch So. Az Posts: 4,749	Re: Front suspension drop failure So does that mean you have 29 sets of springs you need to get rid of? You should be able to offer them to the board if they are no longer available. I received mine two days ago, HEAVY box! __________________ 53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD) 53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25 55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73 62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327 340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis LS 3 4L70E 65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11 78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42 2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser) 2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42

10-31-2015, 12:01 PM	#42
HotRod C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 3,053	Re: Front suspension drop failure ordered 2 sets for future projects __________________ SOLD -77 CHEYENNE SWB, LS SWAPPED -1976 SILVERADO YUBA GOLD/NEUTRAL (2-TONE)

10-31-2015, 01:15 PM	#43
MikeB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: North Texas Posts: 3,597	Re: Front suspension drop failure Not sure about our trucks, but on many vehicles, 1.0" spring movement is around 1.7" at the wheel. So, if cutting 2 coils shortens the spring by 3" (just a guess here), that results in 5" at the wheel. However, the spring gets stiffer with fewer coils, so the net result may be closer to 4" at the wheel. I know many guys don't take those facts into consideration when whacking springs. Edit: I just read a post above saying it's a 1:2 ratio. Even more than I thought! Still haven't decided how to lower my truck, but am leaning towards aftermarket springs designed for 2"-3" drop AT THE WHEEL. And the ride should be less bone-jarring than with cut coils. My truck has 8" rally wheels, and it sounds like most, if not all, dropped spindles won't clear them. True? __________________ Mike 1969 C10 LWB -- owned for 35 years. 350/TH350, 3.08 posi, 1st Gen Vintage Air, recent AAW wiring harness, 5-lug conversion, 1985 spindles and brakes. 1982 C10 SWB -- sold 1981 C10 Silverado LWB -- sold, but wish I still had it! 1969 C10 (not the current one) that I bought in the early 1980s. Paid $1200; sold for $1500 a few years later. Just a hint at the appreciation that was coming. Retired as a factory automation products salesman. Worked part-time over the years for an engine builder and a classic car repair shop. Member here for 24 years! This is the very first car/truck Internet forum I joined. I still used a dial-up modem back then!

11-01-2015, 04:37 AM	#46
bbbc10 Diggin The SquareLife Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: garland,tx Posts: 1,933	Re: Front suspension drop failure western chassis spindles will clear 8" only ones that will

11-01-2015, 07:00 AM	#47
RootBeerFXS Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: the colony Posts: 102	Re: Front suspension drop failure I put McGaughys MMC-33153 from Summit on mine and they clear my 8 inch rallies just fine. I thought i was going to have to trim them but lucked out I guess. Attached Images



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