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Andy4639 · 05-03-2016, 01:07 PM

Hart_Rod ,

Even with the AC running?

Longhornss · 05-03-2016, 10:36 PM

Would still Need the trinity, not sure the GM LS crate package is able to shut the fans off at a set speed. That is something I will have to look into.

**Hart_Rod** · 05-04-2016, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy4639

Hart_Rod ,

Even with the AC running?

I'll have to double check it this evening, but I think that is an option.

Andy4639 · 05-04-2016, 08:20 AM

Please LMK please.

Custom 68 · 05-04-2016, 09:28 AM

I will tag along here too, I did not find any options for it on hptuners however I am not as in the know so to speak on tuning as many of these guys on here.
All I have been able to do with the AC on mine is "bump" the idle up when it is on. I do believe it is an option to turn the fans on when it see the AC signal I have not switched that on but may give it a try. Like stated earlier I don't think fans are necessary when driving down the highway and them engine temps don't require the fans. So far if I am moving I don't require the fans.

Longhornss · 05-04-2016, 09:37 AM

I am also not seeing any selection in HP tuners to deactivate the fan at a set road speed. Maybe I am missing something.
I also do not know if the Crate Engine controller will allow for an A/C input like many of the aftermarket controllers. Meaning these controllers cannot control the A/C clutch/Fans like in a factory vehicle. I was under the impression the engine control in this case is load based.... The engine sees an additional load on the engine due to RPM drop and compensates accordingly.

Andy4639 · 05-04-2016, 10:04 AM

The fans are not needed at all on mine if the AC isn't on. If I cut the AC on and just idling the high side of the AC goes off scale. I need the fan on @ idle but not at speed.
I don't want a bunch of switches to turn on/off all the time.
I would like to make it simple if possible along with current setup.

**Hart_Rod** · 05-04-2016, 08:11 PM

Here's a snapshot of the table I was talking about. Under "Running Conditions" -> AC fans disable speed, you can choose the MPH in which to shut the fans off.

Andy4639 · 05-04-2016, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Here's a snapshot of the table I was talking about. Under "Running Conditions" -> AC fans disable speed, you can choose the MPH in which to shut the fans off.

OK, but I can't see it! It's to small.

**Hart_Rod** · 05-04-2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy4639

OK, but I can't see it! It's to small.

try this

Andy4639 · 05-04-2016, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

try this

What!!!!!!

**Hart_Rod** · 05-04-2016, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy4639

What!!!!!!

Updated

Andy4639 · 05-04-2016, 08:53 PM

Thanks Hart_Rod,
I'm going to try and see if my tuner can do anything with it.

Longhornss · 05-04-2016, 09:18 PM

Hey that's great. Not sure what engine you are running Heart but the new E-Rod or GMPP creat engines do not use these tables.
There may be a way to do it but these computer are not that simple when it come to on off temps either.
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**Hart_Rod** · 05-04-2016, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy4639

Thanks Hart_Rod,
I'm going to try and see if my tuner can do anything with it.

Hopefully that works for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhornss

Hey that's great. Not sure what engine you are running Heart but the new E-Rod or GMPP creat engines do not use these tables.
There may be a way to do it but these computer are not that simple when it come to on off temps either.
Posted via Mobile Device

Does the E-rod use an E67 or an E38 computer?

Longhornss · 05-04-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Hopefully that works for you.

Does the E-rod use an E67 or an E38 computer?

E67
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**Hart_Rod** · 05-04-2016, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhornss

E67
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I have a Excel spreadsheet I got off of HPTuners that helps you set up your fan on/off temps for the E67 and E38. Let me know if you want it.

Longhornss · 05-05-2016, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

I have a Excel spreadsheet I got off of HPTuners that helps you set up your fan on/off temps for the E67 and E38. Let me know if you want it.

Rob,

I will tAke you up on that. I Kind of get how to set up the dual fan control but it is still A little confusing. It one of those tings where you understand it, come back to it 3 Days later and you have to relearn it all over again....
The more you do it the easier it becomes I guess.

**Hart_Rod** · 05-05-2016, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Longhornss

Rob,

I will tAke you up on that. I Kind of get how to set up the dual fan control but it is still A little confusing. It one of those tings where you understand it, come back to it 3 Days later and you have to relearn it all over again....
The more you do it the easier it becomes I guess.

Check this thread out. The spreadsheets are in the first post:

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...gs-Spreadsheet

Custom 68 · 05-05-2016, 05:27 PM

Rob, mine does not look like that. It is an older swap I did about 11 years ago. it uses a "322" computer that was upgraded if you will to a custom os for my 2 bar speed density. I have HP tuners pro and don't have those fields.

**Hart_Rod** · 05-05-2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Custom 68

Rob, mine does not look like that. It is an older swap I did about 11 years ago. it uses a "322" computer that was upgraded if you will to a custom os for my 2 bar speed density. I have HP tuners pro and don't have those fields.

What year is your computer? Does it have red/blue or blue/green connectors?

Longhornss · 05-05-2016, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Custom 68

Rob, mine does not look like that. It is an older swap I did about 11 years ago. it uses a "322" computer that was upgraded if you will to a custom os for my 2 bar speed density. I have HP tuners pro and don't have those fields.

Well yours looks simple enough to get the dual fans on/off but again it does not look like there any way of shutting them down at a set Speed.

Custom 68 · 05-05-2016, 09:36 PM

Rob it's a 2001 or 02. It's the red and blue connector. The electric fans work as expected with the temps but no options for AC stuff. Not a biggie but would be nice to have it.
Yes it's simple and works

05-03-2016, 01:07 PM	#26
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: My super-duper fan controller magic box! Hart_Rod , Even with the AC running? __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

05-03-2016, 10:36 PM	#27
Longhornss Registered User Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Windsor,Ontario Canada Posts: 255	Re: My super-duper fan controller magic box! Would still Need the trinity, not sure the GM LS crate package is able to shut the fans off at a set speed. That is something I will have to look into.

05-04-2016, 08:20 AM	#29
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: My super-duper fan controller magic box! Please LMK please. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

05-04-2016, 09:28 AM	#30
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,944	Re: My super-duper fan controller magic box! I will tag along here too, I did not find any options for it on hptuners however I am not as in the know so to speak on tuning as many of these guys on here. All I have been able to do with the AC on mine is "bump" the idle up when it is on. I do believe it is an option to turn the fans on when it see the AC signal I have not switched that on but may give it a try. Like stated earlier I don't think fans are necessary when driving down the highway and them engine temps don't require the fans. So far if I am moving I don't require the fans. __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

05-04-2016, 09:37 AM	#31
Longhornss Registered User Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Windsor,Ontario Canada Posts: 255	Re: My super-duper fan controller magic box! I am also not seeing any selection in HP tuners to deactivate the fan at a set road speed. Maybe I am missing something. I also do not know if the Crate Engine controller will allow for an A/C input like many of the aftermarket controllers. Meaning these controllers cannot control the A/C clutch/Fans like in a factory vehicle. I was under the impression the engine control in this case is load based.... The engine sees an additional load on the engine due to RPM drop and compensates accordingly.

05-04-2016, 10:04 AM	#32
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: My super-duper fan controller magic box! The fans are not needed at all on mine if the AC isn't on. If I cut the AC on and just idling the high side of the AC goes off scale. I need the fan on @ idle but not at speed. I don't want a bunch of switches to turn on/off all the time. I would like to make it simple if possible along with current setup. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

05-04-2016, 08:11 PM	#33
Hart_Rod ************* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 17,865	Re: My super-duper fan controller magic box! Here's a snapshot of the table I was talking about. Under "Running Conditions" -> AC fans disable speed, you can choose the MPH in which to shut the fans off. Attached Images __________________ Rob - https://www.instagram.com/hart_rod_c10 As Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another. Proverbs 27:17 FOR SALE: DBW pedal bracket - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651123 FOR SALE: Hood Brackets http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=679945 1987 Silverado SWB - 34.5K original miles http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=801834 1969 SuperBurb - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387 1968 Farm truck - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358692 1968 SWB - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551258 1948 Chevy - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=122164&page=3

05-04-2016, 08:53 PM	#38
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: My super-duper fan controller magic box! Thanks Hart_Rod, I'm going to try and see if my tuner can do anything with it. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

05-04-2016, 09:18 PM	#39
Longhornss Registered User Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Windsor,Ontario Canada Posts: 255	Hey that's great. Not sure what engine you are running Heart but the new E-Rod or GMPP creat engines do not use these tables. There may be a way to do it but these computer are not that simple when it come to on off temps either. Posted via Mobile Device

05-05-2016, 05:27 PM	#45
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,944	Re: My super-duper fan controller magic box! Rob, mine does not look like that. It is an older swap I did about 11 years ago. it uses a "322" computer that was upgraded if you will to a custom os for my 2 bar speed density. I have HP tuners pro and don't have those fields. Attached Images __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

05-05-2016, 09:36 PM	#48
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,944	Re: My super-duper fan controller magic box! Rob it's a 2001 or 02. It's the red and blue connector. The electric fans work as expected with the temps but no options for AC stuff. Not a biggie but would be nice to have it. Yes it's simple and works __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!" Last edited by Custom 68; 05-06-2016 at 02:47 PM.



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