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**Jcfcamaro** · 01-21-2018, 06:46 PM

Just wanting to know what any of you are running for headers on 396 engine in a 72 k10. My motor will be moved forward about 1 7/8 from the small block 350 location.

**70cst** · 01-21-2018, 10:53 PM

Doug Thorley Headers

http://http://www.dougthorleyheaders...trucks&606&607

**Jcfcamaro** · 01-21-2018, 11:02 PM

Darn site won't open.

john@thepier · 01-21-2018, 11:21 PM

If you give up on headers, I bought these to go in a 72 that had a cracked manifold but eventually sold off that project and now have these in the parts board for sale. These fit excellent in our trucks.
John

**Jcfcamaro** · 01-21-2018, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by john@thepier

If you give up on headers, I bought these to go in a 72 that had a cracked manifold but eventually sold off that project and now have these in the parts board for sale. These fit excellent in our trucks.
John

I've seen those ,but not sure which route I want to go. I'm not afraid to notch the frame a little.

**Steeveedee** · 01-21-2018, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by john@thepier

If you give up on headers, I bought these to go in a 72 that had a cracked manifold but eventually sold off that project and now have these in the parts board for sale. These fit excellent in our trucks.
John

Sure are pretty. If they sold for $402, I might buy them. Not. Wow, that is expensive! I guess I have gotten used to the local pick-your-part yard.

Mike C · 01-24-2018, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee

Sure are pretty. If they sold for $402, I might buy them. Not. Wow, that is expensive! I guess I have gotten used to the local pick-your-part yard.

You can get the Chinese knockoffs for 1/2 that, but those are built for the restoration crowd. At a fair price IMO.

I bought a set of Chinese big block Corvette manifolds to use in my short step but wound up buying Sandersons ceramic coated manifolds. Which are twice the price of those manifolds.... but I thought it was worth it.

**Ironangel** · 01-24-2018, 12:14 PM

I had a set of Chevelle BBC headers that came with my L34 396, didn't fit without cutting the transmission crossmember and wouldn't clear the automatic trans. linkage either, WAY over rated! Had to make a show in 72 hours so I ordered these, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I placed the order on Tuesday, delivered on Wednesday! Still on the truck and rust free! Best deal out there! Ball and socket collectors and they came with gaskets and bolts! PS. They still dont leak!

**70STOVEBOLT** · 01-24-2018, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironangel

I had a set of Chevelle BBC headers that came with my L34 396, didn't fit without cutting the transmission crossmember and wouldn't clear the automatic trans. linkage either, WAY over rated! Had to make a show in 72 hours so I ordered these, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I placed the order on Tuesday, delivered on Wednesday! Still on the truck and rust free! Best deal out there! Ball and socket collectors and they came with gaskets and bolts!

That would be the best option IMO, no clearance issues and low hanging should not be an issue on 4x4. I just wanted to tuck the exhaust between the frame rails, and found out there were a lot of other mods that went with it once I got the Chevelle headers installed.

john@thepier · 01-21-2018, 11:32 PM

Yep nothing wrong with a little shave off the frame. I actually built a 70 with a 383 stroker and used a set of Hooker Super Comps. I mounted the engine all the way back as far as it would go without firewall mods. I had to do minor clearanceing to the frame to get fit.

**70STOVEBOLT** · 01-23-2018, 10:46 PM

Is a K10 frame the same as a C10 frame? If so, use a set of Chevelle long tube headers and you can tuck the exhaust up inside the frame rails, but you will need a tubular trans crossmember and a custom or aftermarket shift linkage if you have an automatic.

demian5 · 01-24-2018, 01:27 PM

If you are going manifolds, try and find the RV ones with the expansion joint in the middle.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=197596

Mike C · 01-24-2018, 09:22 PM

I have an '85 cab and chassis truck with a 454 on it that has those manifolds. I think they are listed as stainless?

hdff · 01-30-2018, 08:27 PM

I put hedman mid length coated headers on my 402BB. Look good, sound good and fit without any cutting. Don’t remember the number of The headers but the mufflers are Dynomax ultra-flo welded #17221. My muffler guy recommended them for a big block and he couldn’t have been more right. I found them on amazon at a descent price

**Jcfcamaro** · 01-30-2018, 10:10 PM

Thanks...

Doug's68SS · 01-31-2018, 02:15 PM

mine are Sanderson short headers

alsriv2 · 01-31-2018, 04:04 PM

My truck had a set of Hooker headers in the bed of the truck when I picked it up. The PO had them ceramic coated after he yanked the engine and tore it down, but then decided to not redo the engine. I completed the engine build, and those headers fit perfectly. Long tube headers that do not drop below the frame. The label is still welded on, so I will see if there is a part number there that I can forward to you.

**Jcfcamaro** · 01-31-2018, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by alsriv2

My truck had a set of Hooker headers in the bed of the truck when I picked it up. The PO had them ceramic coated after he yanked the engine and tore it down, but then decided to not redo the engine. I completed the engine build, and those headers fit perfectly. Long tube headers that do not drop below the frame. The label is still welded on, so I will see if there is a part number there that I can forward to you.

That would be great

weq92f · 01-31-2018, 08:22 PM

My Hedman 68198 just arrived. I've unpacked them and they look great! The gasket package has a picture of a 67-72 C10 on the front!

Again, these are for a 67 Chevelle BB and according to a few other posts on this board, they do not hang below the frame once installed.

**Jcfcamaro** · 02-01-2018, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by weq92f

My Hedman 68198 just arrived. I've unpacked them and they look great! The gasket package has a picture of a 67-72 C10 on the front!

Again, these are for a 67 Chevelle BB and according to a few other posts on this board, they do not hang below the frame once installed.

Those look very nice and they have the ball and socket flange. I have the same flange style on my camaro and love it.

weq92f · 02-02-2018, 11:55 AM

Couple more for fun...

**Ironangel** · 02-02-2018, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by weq92f

My Hedman 68198 just arrived. I've unpacked them and they look great! The gasket package has a picture of a 67-72 C10 on the front!

Again, these are for a 67 Chevelle BB and according to a few other posts on this board, they do not hang below the frame once installed.

Need to make clear. The "Chevelle" headers will not fit our trucks with column shift automatic transmissions, nor will they clear the factory auto-trans cross members. They may look great laying on the floor but lets not mislead the unknowing into thinking those are a simple bolt on and go header. Modification or an aftermarket cross member is required as well as a cable operated shifter to allow clearance. Chevelle headers are highly over rated in my opinion when mid-length options are available..."Just sayin" ~Ghostrider~

weq92f · 02-03-2018, 02:49 PM

Right!

I made the assumption that anybody willing to spend this much money on a set of these headers is going to do the research up front to ensure they're gonna work. Much like I did.

Maybe that's a bad assumption. It's a good clarification though and one that is spot on.

These headers, 68198 Hedman, require mods on the C10 to fit ( Auto tranny shift linkage and crossmember ).

Hth,

-klb

ajviper · 02-10-2018, 09:58 PM

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/HOK-2463HKR

I'm running a set of these on my 454 in my K10. Engine crossmember is moved up to the next set of holes. No clearance issues

01-21-2018, 10:53 PM	#2
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,375	Re: 396 Headers Doug Thorley Headers http://http://www.dougthorleyheaders...trucks&606&607 __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

01-21-2018, 11:02 PM	#3
Jcfcamaro Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Fairfax, Missouri Posts: 1,049	Re: 396 Headers Darn site won't open.

01-21-2018, 11:21 PM	#4
john@thepier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lake Geneva, WI 53147 Posts: 970	Re: 396 Headers If you give up on headers, I bought these to go in a 72 that had a cracked manifold but eventually sold off that project and now have these in the parts board for sale. These fit excellent in our trucks. John Attached Images

01-24-2018, 12:14 PM	#8
Ironangel Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Falls City, Nebraska "100 Miles From Nowhere" Posts: 2,219	Re: 396 Headers I had a set of Chevelle BBC headers that came with my L34 396, didn't fit without cutting the transmission crossmember and wouldn't clear the automatic trans. linkage either, WAY over rated! Had to make a show in 72 hours so I ordered these, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I placed the order on Tuesday, delivered on Wednesday! Still on the truck and rust free! Best deal out there! Ball and socket collectors and they came with gaskets and bolts! PS. They still dont leak! Attached Images __________________ Michael of the clan Hill, "Two Seventy Two's" 71 1-ton Dually 350 4-Speed 71 C/50 Grain Truck, 350 Split-Axle 4-Speed 02 3/4 ton Express 14 Indian Chief Vintage 1952 Ford 8N, "Only Ford Allowed On The Property" "Be American, Buy American"

01-21-2018, 11:32 PM	#10
john@thepier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lake Geneva, WI 53147 Posts: 970	Re: 396 Headers Yep nothing wrong with a little shave off the frame. I actually built a 70 with a 383 stroker and used a set of Hooker Super Comps. I mounted the engine all the way back as far as it would go without firewall mods. I had to do minor clearanceing to the frame to get fit.

01-21-2018, 06:46 PM	#1
Jcfcamaro Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Fairfax, Missouri Posts: 1,049	396 Headers Just wanting to know what any of you are running for headers on 396 engine in a 72 k10. My motor will be moved forward about 1 7/8 from the small block 350 location.

01-23-2018, 10:46 PM	#11
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,468	Re: 396 Headers Is a K10 frame the same as a C10 frame? If so, use a set of Chevelle long tube headers and you can tuck the exhaust up inside the frame rails, but you will need a tubular trans crossmember and a custom or aftermarket shift linkage if you have an automatic. __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Sliding Rear Window Power Windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear

01-24-2018, 01:27 PM	#12
demian5 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 2,178	Re: 396 Headers If you are going manifolds, try and find the RV ones with the expansion joint in the middle. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=197596 __________________ "Work hard, use your vacation days." 1970 C15 GMC Long Bed 1986 C20 Scottsdale 1983 K2500 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2 Instagram: C10sofOC

01-24-2018, 09:22 PM	#13
Mike C Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 7,731	Re: 396 Headers I have an '85 cab and chassis truck with a 454 on it that has those manifolds. I think they are listed as stainless? __________________ 44 Willys MB 52 M38A1 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax

01-30-2018, 08:27 PM	#14
hdff Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: pasadena,TEXAS Posts: 880	Re: 396 Headers I put hedman mid length coated headers on my 402BB. Look good, sound good and fit without any cutting. Don’t remember the number of The headers but the mufflers are Dynomax ultra-flo welded #17221. My muffler guy recommended them for a big block and he couldn’t have been more right. I found them on amazon at a descent price __________________ 1971 Cheyenne SWB 402BB, 700R4, 3.73 posi, PS, PB, A/C, Tilt, Tach "Wanda" Don't argue with idiots, People watching may not be able to tell the difference... There's someone in my head........But it's not me...... cheap tricks thread great info here!! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=489394 Last edited by hdff; 01-30-2018 at 08:36 PM.

01-30-2018, 10:10 PM	#15
Jcfcamaro Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Fairfax, Missouri Posts: 1,049	Re: 396 Headers Thanks...

01-31-2018, 02:15 PM	#16
Doug's68SS Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Canton, Tx Posts: 175	Re: 396 Headers mine are Sanderson short headers Attached Images

01-31-2018, 04:04 PM	#17
alsriv2 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Formerly MD and San Diego, now loving life in Arizona Posts: 1,636	Re: 396 Headers My truck had a set of Hooker headers in the bed of the truck when I picked it up. The PO had them ceramic coated after he yanked the engine and tore it down, but then decided to not redo the engine. I completed the engine build, and those headers fit perfectly. Long tube headers that do not drop below the frame. The label is still welded on, so I will see if there is a part number there that I can forward to you. __________________ Alan 2012 Ram 3500 Dually Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins 2014 Palomino Columbus 340RK 5th wheel '69 Chevy C10 396BB

01-31-2018, 08:22 PM	#19
weq92f Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 3,267	Re: 396 Headers My Hedman 68198 just arrived. I've unpacked them and they look great! The gasket package has a picture of a 67-72 C10 on the front! Again, these are for a 67 Chevelle BB and according to a few other posts on this board, they do not hang below the frame once installed. Attached Images __________________ 67 C10 fleet fuel injected '70 402, 700r4, 3.73 posi 07 335 sport turbo 6sp 94 Trans Am GT LT1 6sp posi -- sold after 22yrs 99 540 sport V8 6sp -- sold 73 240z L24 4sp -- given to friend 68 C10 step 350/350 3.73 open -- sold

02-02-2018, 11:55 AM	#21
weq92f Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 3,267	Re: 396 Headers Couple more for fun... Attached Images __________________ 67 C10 fleet fuel injected '70 402, 700r4, 3.73 posi 07 335 sport turbo 6sp 94 Trans Am GT LT1 6sp posi -- sold after 22yrs 99 540 sport V8 6sp -- sold 73 240z L24 4sp -- given to friend 68 C10 step 350/350 3.73 open -- sold



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02-03-2018, 02:49 PM	#23
weq92f Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 3,267	Re: 396 Headers Right! I made the assumption that anybody willing to spend this much money on a set of these headers is going to do the research up front to ensure they're gonna work. Much like I did. Maybe that's a bad assumption. It's a good clarification though and one that is spot on. These headers, 68198 Hedman, require mods on the C10 to fit ( Auto tranny shift linkage and crossmember ). Hth, -klb __________________ 67 C10 fleet fuel injected '70 402, 700r4, 3.73 posi 07 335 sport turbo 6sp 94 Trans Am GT LT1 6sp posi -- sold after 22yrs 99 540 sport V8 6sp -- sold 73 240z L24 4sp -- given to friend 68 C10 step 350/350 3.73 open -- sold

02-10-2018, 09:58 PM	#24
ajviper Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lakewood, Colorado Posts: 90	Re: 396 Headers https://www.summitracing.com/parts/HOK-2463HKR I'm running a set of these on my 454 in my K10. Engine crossmember is moved up to the next set of holes. No clearance issues __________________ Chevy Runs Deep. 1956 210 LS1 TH350 3.31 Posi 12 Bolt 1969 Z/28 5.3 T56 3.73 Posi 12 Bolt 1973 Nova SS 355 TH350 2.73 Posi 12 Bolt 2000 K2500 Suburban LS 6.0 4L80 3.73 G80 2005 K2500HD CCSB LS 6.0 4L80 4.10 G80 2010 2SS/RS Camaro LS3 T56 Aqua Blue Metallic

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