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**Chevy Fleetside** · 07-06-2020, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by slepysal

This is the " rare" 1960 bellhousing

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I just sold one of those not to long ago and sent it off to Texas

**slepysal** · 07-16-2020, 08:28 PM

Ahhh the fun continues....
My hand was feeling better so I decided to remove the pilot bushing. I was expecting to battle with it, but to my surprise I used bread and it came fairly easy.
Now putting in a new one is another story. The bushing that came with the clutch kit (off of a 77 C10 with a 400 11" 26 spline) went in about 1/16 and then started to get " smashed". I removed it and went to the LPS and picked up a Motormite Help bushing for a 1967 Chevy Camaro with a 250. Same results it seems to big.
I purchased another one BCA PB656HD same thing. My old bushing is measuring out a 1.0925 the BCA 1.0996 and the Motormite 1.0965
I purchase a bushing for a powerglide to manual way to small 1.067
Watched videos and they seem to go in with less persuasion . I've tried freezing ,using grease and even sanded one down a bit.
ANY and I mean any help would be appreciated ! Tempted to reinstall old one and be done with it.

**Steeveedee** · 07-16-2020, 10:21 PM

Make sure that there are no burrs on the crankshaft or the transmission input shaft, and then go online to find a bearing to match. Maybe you can find a bushing, as well. If no bearings show up, try and find a shop that can turn a bronze bushing to fit. I'm 300+ miles away, so wouldn't be much help on turning that bushing to fit. This seems to be a common swap, so I suspect something amiss with the crankshaft, to be honest.

**slepysal** · 07-17-2020, 04:55 PM

Thanks Steve.The crankshaft is clean and smooth. So after a little "googling" It seams that today's bushings may need some "adjusting". I will take to a buddy's shop and have him turn it down a bit .

**Steeveedee** · 07-17-2020, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by slepysal

Thanks Steve.The crankshaft is clean and smooth. So after a little "googling" It seams that today's bushings may need some "adjusting". I will take to a buddy's shop and have him turn it down a bit .

Good that you have a buddy to machine it to size. Taking it elsewhere would be $50 worth of machining on a $5 part, which is always an annoyance. Mike the crank good and be sure that it still has to be knocked in and doesn't rattle or spin in the crankshaft. Ask me how I know that.

**slepysal** · 07-18-2020, 04:55 PM

Here are the pilot bushings I have purchased with the size next to them, you can see where I have damaged the face on them ,what fun!
The original and BCA HD are non magnetic all others were
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**Steeveedee** · 07-18-2020, 05:02 PM

I'm curious- what did the crankshaft mike out at?

**slepysal** · 07-18-2020, 07:05 PM

I was able to borrow a pilot bushing installer 4 solid hits and bushing is in !!! I should have but didn't measure the crank pilot hole

Lugnutz65 · 07-18-2020, 08:53 PM

I’m glad you’re making progress!
Following.

twinshadows · 07-18-2020, 09:03 PM

Hey . . .
just checking in - - - I hope you have fun with your T 5 tranny .

I installed a '93 GMC S-15 W/C T5 into my 69 Nova , back in March
2018 . . . and been having fun ever since.

T 5 : 93 - 2.8 / V6 , W/C with (about 300,000 miles) . . . .
using the stock S-15 = 14 spline input shaft , TRANS Cast in 1992 ,
with the 'Muncie bolt pattern' . . . . NO adaptor needed .

later , jim

**slepysal** · 07-18-2020, 10:06 PM

Slow progres .. but some. As I mentioned earlier the fly wheel came off and smashed my right hand fingers ( yes a stupid and painful mistake) I am at about 80% almost able to make a fist so I am limited on wrenching. My daily driver's power steering pump shaft broke so I had to take it to a shop. Nothing kills me more than having to pay someone to do something that I can do. Ok that's out of my system!
Pilot bushing is in !!
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I decided to install the flywheel and found out the center bore was to small. First thing to cross my mind was that I had some weird crankshaft!
I thought I did my due diligence in researching what I needed so ordered a LUK LFW101 from Summit back in 2016
Well now in 2020 I find out that the one I ordered has too small of a center bore!
I was able to find one (in stock on a Saturday) at a local parts house . It went on with ease new bolts just need to torqued. Waiting on new pressure plate bolts. Stay tuned

**Captainfab** · 07-19-2020, 09:19 PM

From what I am seeing on Summit's website, the LFW101 should be correct for your engine. The LFW100 is externally balanced for a small block 400 and will not work on your engine unless you have a 400 or externally balanced 383.

**slepysal** · 07-19-2020, 10:23 PM

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From what I am seeing on Summit's website, the LFW101 should be correct for your engine. The LFW100 is externally balanced for a small block 400 and will not work on your engine unless you have a 400 or externally balanced 383.

Captain you are correct !! ( as usual) I ment Pioneer Flywheels FW-100 ( I will corect post to avoid any confusion)
For some reason the LUK LFW101 that I have has a center hole of 2.434 I need a center hole of 2.483.
Thanks for the correction!

**slepysal** · 07-24-2020, 11:45 PM

Update. Flywheel on. Disc and Pressure plate on. Bellhousing with new mounts on. Clutch fork on.Slave cylinder, clutch hose .
Hit another snag as my clutch master is bad so unable to bleed.Will need order one

**slepysal** · 07-28-2020, 09:14 PM

Project on hold

**slepysal** · 01-24-2021, 11:17 PM

I lost my wife on back on 7/27/20 and had to put this project on hold.
While nowhere close to being back to normal I know that life goes on.
Im Hoping to complete the swap sooner than latter . Not much left to (At least I hope so) I will post some pics as I go.

Remember never take your loved ones for granted.

Asshat · 01-25-2021, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by slepysal

I lost my wife on back on 7/27/20 and had to put this project on hold.
While nowhere close to being back to normal I know that life goes on.
Im Hoping to complete the swap sooner than latter . Not much left to (At least I hope so) I will post some pics as I go.

Remember never take your loved ones for granted.

Very sorry to hear of your loss. Hang in there.

**The Rocknrod** · 01-25-2021, 05:24 AM

Sorry for your loss Sal.

53Sparky · 01-25-2021, 10:23 AM

Sorry for your loss, Sal.

roll_the_dice · 01-25-2021, 11:58 AM

Sal, so sorry for the loss of your wife! Prayers out to you and your family. Hang in there!

**MusicMan70** · 01-25-2021, 05:10 PM

My prayers and thoughts are with you and Family Sal. it's got to be tough but hang in there Sal

**slepysal** · 01-25-2021, 08:58 PM

Thank you ALL for the encouraging words !! Gotta press forward. To cold ( by California standards ) to work on it but the motivation is back !!!

**The Rocknrod** · 01-26-2021, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by slepysal

Thank you ALL for the encouraging words !! Gotta press forward. To cold ( by California standards ) to work on it but the motivation is back !!!

Ya I spent 22 years in the Navy in and out of San Diego. I used to think it got cold in the winter. Boy was I spoiled.

**slepysal** · 01-30-2021, 09:41 PM

Nice weather today so i was able to get the transmission in!
Since I installed the clutch 6 months ago it seems that the disc is stuck to the fly wheel ..

. I took the measurements for the drive shaft and it looks like it needs to be shortened about 1.5 inches, Will get that done next week. Thanks to all of you for your Motivation !

Lugnutz65 · 01-30-2021, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by slepysal

I took the measurements for the drive shaft and it looks like it needs to be shortened about 1.5 inches.

If it’s a short bed C10, you might find what you need at the salvage yard. This drive shaft bolted right up to my T5 and had the correct slip yoke too! I just changed the rear u-joint to a conversion U-joint. See pics.

07-16-2020, 08:28 PM	#27
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: T-5 swap time Ahhh the fun continues.... My hand was feeling better so I decided to remove the pilot bushing. I was expecting to battle with it, but to my surprise I used bread and it came fairly easy. Now putting in a new one is another story. The bushing that came with the clutch kit (off of a 77 C10 with a 400 11" 26 spline) went in about 1/16 and then started to get " smashed". I removed it and went to the LPS and picked up a Motormite Help bushing for a 1967 Chevy Camaro with a 250. Same results it seems to big. I purchased another one BCA PB656HD same thing. My old bushing is measuring out a 1.0925 the BCA 1.0996 and the Motormite 1.0965 I purchase a bushing for a powerglide to manual way to small 1.067 Watched videos and they seem to go in with less persuasion . I've tried freezing ,using grease and even sanded one down a bit. ANY and I mean any help would be appreciated ! Tempted to reinstall old one and be done with it. __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... "

07-16-2020, 10:21 PM	#28
Steeveedee Who Changed This? Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 10,692	Re: T-5 swap time Make sure that there are no burrs on the crankshaft or the transmission input shaft, and then go online to find a bearing to match. Maybe you can find a bushing, as well. If no bearings show up, try and find a shop that can turn a bronze bushing to fit. I'm 300+ miles away, so wouldn't be much help on turning that bushing to fit. This seems to be a common swap, so I suspect something amiss with the crankshaft, to be honest. __________________ ~Steven '70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper Simi Valley, CA

07-17-2020, 04:55 PM	#29
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: T-5 swap time Thanks Steve.The crankshaft is clean and smooth. So after a little "googling" It seams that today's bushings may need some "adjusting". I will take to a buddy's shop and have him turn it down a bit . __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... "

07-18-2020, 04:55 PM	#31
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: T-5 swap time Here are the pilot bushings I have purchased with the size next to them, you can see where I have damaged the face on them ,what fun! The original and BCA HD are non magnetic all others were __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... " Last edited by slepysal; 07-18-2020 at 05:05 PM.

07-18-2020, 05:02 PM	#32
Steeveedee Who Changed This? Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 10,692	Re: T-5 swap time I'm curious- what did the crankshaft mike out at? __________________ ~Steven '70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper Simi Valley, CA

07-18-2020, 07:05 PM	#33
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: T-5 swap time I was able to borrow a pilot bushing installer 4 solid hits and bushing is in !!! I should have but didn't measure the crank pilot hole __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... "

07-18-2020, 08:53 PM	#34
Lugnutz65 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,927	Re: T-5 swap time I’m glad you’re making progress! Following. __________________ My 65 C10 build: www.lugnutz65chevystepside.weebly.com Want to know more about T5 transmissions? My website has a T5 Info Page and a Step by Step T5 rebuild.

07-18-2020, 09:03 PM	#35
twinshadows Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Chino Valley, AZ Posts: 50	Re: T-5 swap time Hey . . . just checking in - - - I hope you have fun with your T 5 tranny . I installed a '93 GMC S-15 W/C T5 into my 69 Nova , back in March 2018 . . . and been having fun ever since. T 5 : 93 - 2.8 / V6 , W/C with (about 300,000 miles) . . . . using the stock S-15 = 14 spline input shaft , TRANS Cast in 1992 , with the 'Muncie bolt pattern' . . . . NO adaptor needed . later , jim Last edited by twinshadows; 07-18-2020 at 09:11 PM.

07-18-2020, 10:06 PM	#36
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: T-5 swap time Slow progres .. but some. As I mentioned earlier the fly wheel came off and smashed my right hand fingers ( yes a stupid and painful mistake) I am at about 80% almost able to make a fist so I am limited on wrenching. My daily driver's power steering pump shaft broke so I had to take it to a shop. Nothing kills me more than having to pay someone to do something that I can do. Ok that's out of my system! Pilot bushing is in !! I decided to install the flywheel and found out the center bore was to small. First thing to cross my mind was that I had some weird crankshaft! I thought I did my due diligence in researching what I needed so ordered a LUK LFW101 from Summit back in 2016 Well now in 2020 I find out that the one I ordered has too small of a center bore! I was able to find one (in stock on a Saturday) at a local parts house . It went on with ease new bolts just need to torqued. Waiting on new pressure plate bolts. Stay tuned __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... " Last edited by slepysal; 07-19-2020 at 10:28 PM.

07-19-2020, 09:19 PM	#37
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: T-5 swap time From what I am seeing on Summit's website, the LFW101 should be correct for your engine. The LFW100 is externally balanced for a small block 400 and will not work on your engine unless you have a 400 or externally balanced 383. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

07-24-2020, 11:45 PM	#39
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: T-5 swap time Update. Flywheel on. Disc and Pressure plate on. Bellhousing with new mounts on. Clutch fork on.Slave cylinder, clutch hose . Hit another snag as my clutch master is bad so unable to bleed.Will need order one __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... " Last edited by slepysal; 07-25-2020 at 11:15 PM.

07-28-2020, 09:14 PM	#40
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: T-5 swap time Project on hold __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... "

01-24-2021, 11:17 PM	#41
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: T-5 swap time I lost my wife on back on 7/27/20 and had to put this project on hold. While nowhere close to being back to normal I know that life goes on. Im Hoping to complete the swap sooner than latter . Not much left to (At least I hope so) I will post some pics as I go. Remember never take your loved ones for granted. __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... "

01-25-2021, 05:24 AM	#43
The Rocknrod Moderator Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: China Spring, TX Posts: 7,280	Re: T-5 swap time Sorry for your loss Sal. __________________ Master Chief, US Navy, Retired 1964 C10 Step-side Short Bed - In Progress 2009 2500HD Duramax LTZ 1948 GMC Panel 1956 Big Window Stepside 1953 5 Window Chevy Stepside 1932 Coupe New Seat Foam for Bench Seats?

01-25-2021, 10:23 AM	#44
53Sparky Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Northglenn, Colorado Posts: 186	Re: T-5 swap time Sorry for your loss, Sal. __________________ We'll burn that bridge when we get there My current project: Rust Therapy 62 C10 Numbers 6:24-26



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01-25-2021, 11:58 AM	#45
roll_the_dice Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Manlius, NY Posts: 1,698	Re: T-5 swap time Sal, so sorry for the loss of your wife! Prayers out to you and your family. Hang in there! __________________ 1965 C10 LWB Stepside 1964 GMC 1 Ton Dually Instagram #notaratrodnotashowtruck

01-25-2021, 05:10 PM	#46
MusicMan70 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 1,842	Re: T-5 swap time My prayers and thoughts are with you and Family Sal. it's got to be tough but hang in there Sal __________________ MusicMan70 1961 GMC Suburban

01-25-2021, 08:58 PM	#47
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: T-5 swap time Thank you ALL for the encouraging words !! Gotta press forward. To cold ( by California standards ) to work on it but the motivation is back !!! __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... "

01-30-2021, 09:41 PM	#49
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: T-5 swap time Nice weather today so i was able to get the transmission in! Since I installed the clutch 6 months ago it seems that the disc is stuck to the fly wheel ... I took the measurements for the drive shaft and it looks like it needs to be shortened about 1.5 inches, Will get that done next week. Thanks to all of you for your Motivation ! __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... "

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