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SCOTI · 05-15-2005, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drink2mny

.... Brackets and rotors are heavy to ship.

Sorry we don't sell just the brackets.

OK, the rotors are heavy & 'up' the cost w/shipping. Why not sell just the brackets & calipers as a kit & let people get rotors locally?

FirstGen · 05-15-2005, 08:05 PM

Or just sell the brackets...

Not to be a jack but why would I want to spend $350 when I can get the same thing for $300 or less from TSM?

drink2mny · 05-15-2005, 10:59 PM

I'm not going to get into a how we do business thread.

Pertaining to the 10 bolt and 12 bolt kits, the rotors are already turned to fit your axle.
Plus there are differences in rotor manufacturers. there are slight thickness differences that we have come across since being in the rear disc business for 5-6 years.
At that point it became a liabilty issue for us.
When you buy a kit we gladly give you all and any info about the products you will receive, but not before hand.

It is the customers choice to get a caliper cheaper and always the same no matter were you buy it to go with the brackets and rotors, than to have you get a wrong rotor or have a machine shop mess it up, then you come back to us upset about our products and how it doesn't seam to fit or work right..

But Like I said, We support this board and are here to try to correctly answer any questions you guys have.

But mainly we are just an option. As to there is alot of info on the net and other places to buy than us.

If you guys have any questions just PM me.

I am sorry to RagedJim for taking over his post..

SCOTI · 05-15-2005, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drink2mny

I'm not going to get into a how we do business thread.

Pertaining to the 10 bolt and 12 bolt kits, the rotors are already turned to fit your axle.
Plus there are differences in rotor manufacturers. there are slight thickness differences that we have come across since being in the rear disc business for 5-6 years.
At that point it became a liabilty issue for us.
When you buy a kit we gladly give you all and any info about the products you will receive, but not before hand.

It is the customers choice to get a caliper cheaper and always the same no matter were you buy it to go with the brackets and rotors, than to have you get a wrong rotor or have a machine shop mess it up, then you come back to us upset about our products and how it doesn't seam to fit or work right..

But Like I said, We support this board and are here to try to correctly answer any questions you guys have.

But mainly we are just an option. As to there is alot of info on the net and other places to buy than us.

If you guys have any questions just PM me.

I am sorry to RagedJim for taking over his post..

Fair enough.

*Shane* · 05-15-2005, 11:27 PM

Why machine the rotor ... why not just pull the axle and machine the lug flange ... then you can go to AutoZone / Pep Boys / Local Supplier and buy "off the shelf" peices that don't require machining?

Not meant as a flame, that's just the way I did it. Thinking ahead .. I can machine the axles ONE time and skip that process if I ever have to replace the rotors.

Just my thoughts ... not meant as an insult or put down to anyone.

knight_182 · 05-15-2005, 11:27 PM

i was wondering how easy it is to switch the front disc brakes,and if there is anything u messed up on that i might need to know.thanks alot

SCOTI · 05-16-2005, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane

Why machine the rotor ... why not just pull the axle and machine the lug flange ... then you can go to AutoZone / Pep Boys / Local Supplier and buy "off the shelf" peices that don't require machining?

Not meant as a flame, that's just the way I did it. Thinking ahead .. I can machine the axles ONE time and skip that process if I ever have to replace the rotors.

Just my thoughts ... not meant as an insult or put down to anyone.

This was my logic as well. I just don't understand getting something like rotors from out of town. It's so much easier to go down the street to the local supplier in the event of an issue or when wear dictates replacement.

FirstGen · 05-16-2005, 02:24 AM

Exactly.... took the words right out of my mouth!

FirstGen · 05-16-2005, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drink2mny

I'm not going to get into a how we do business thread.

Pertaining to the 10 bolt and 12 bolt kits, the rotors are already turned to fit your axle.
Plus there are differences in rotor manufacturers. there are slight thickness differences that we have come across since being in the rear disc business for 5-6 years.
At that point it became a liabilty issue for us.
When you buy a kit we gladly give you all and any info about the products you will receive, but not before hand.

It is the customers choice to get a caliper cheaper and always the same no matter were you buy it to go with the brackets and rotors, than to have you get a wrong rotor or have a machine shop mess it up, then you come back to us upset about our products and how it doesn't seam to fit or work right..

But Like I said, We support this board and are here to try to correctly answer any questions you guys have.

But mainly we are just an option. As to there is alot of info on the net and other places to buy than us.

If you guys have any questions just PM me.

I am sorry to RagedJim for taking over his post..

I really don't see the big issue when you are talking about slight differences in rotors from different companies espically when we are using them on the rear which everyone knows only does 10-30% of the vehicle braking anyway...
I might be concerned about the quality of the rotors I put on the FRONT of my truck but honestly I think that just about any mass manufactured rotor would be fine for the rear on my truck.
Maybe I am missing something here?
I was also going to note that I already have aftermarket axles in mind that have a smaller center bore so that I won't need any machining work done. I also already run 14mm studs all the way around so redrilling for the smaller factory studs is not an issue. Interested in selling only the brackets as a one off sell? Seems like marketing 101. PM me if interested...
Thanks.

1low1967 · 05-16-2005, 07:44 AM

Can I get a copy of the drawing please. Did you find out if they will work witht the caddy rotors yet??

gtiracer55@hotmail.com

Thank you very much

drink2mny · 05-16-2005, 08:46 AM

All you guys are absolutely right.

But what you forget is there are alot of people out there that don't have the capabilities or don't even want to mess around with machining.
They just want a bolt on kit, which is what ours are...
Thats also why we sell custom kits. We are the only ones that have the widest variety of custom made and the ones on our site.

And as for ordering rotors from out of town, we don't ask you to buy rotors from us we just give you stock numbers to the ones we use so you can buy them at a local auto parts store.

SCOTI · 05-16-2005, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drink2mny

....And as for ordering rotors from out of town, we don't ask you to buy rotors from us we just give you stock numbers to the ones we use so you can buy them at a local auto parts store.

Ok, now that makes sense.

FirstGen · 05-16-2005, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drink2mny

All you guys are absolutely right.

But what you forget is there are alot of people out there that don't have the capabilities or don't even want to mess around with machining.
They just want a bolt on kit, which is what ours are...
Thats also why we sell custom kits. We are the only ones that have the widest variety of custom made and the ones on our site.

And as for ordering rotors from out of town, we don't ask you to buy rotors from us we just give you stock numbers to the ones we use so you can buy them at a local auto parts store.

You mean after the origional purchase which includes the rotors correct?
Thanks for taking the time to explain everything.
Taylor

drink2mny · 05-16-2005, 11:12 AM

No problem.

Yes, after the original purchase.

Later.

**raggedjim** · 05-16-2005, 12:38 PM

Sorry guys I have been out of town... To those who have requested a copy of the AutoCad drawing it will be Friday, I have alot of travelling to do for work this week.

As far as the caddy calipers, I hate to admit I haven't tried it.

I don't want to mis-lead anyone with this post. If you have the resources (AutoCad, CNC, machine tools) you CAN do this, but as I mentioned before, if you don't have the resources and don't like figuring things out, BUY a kit! You'll have fewer problems to work out.

I have tried to let everyone know the problems I have had messing with these trucks so far and will continue to as I progress (SLOWLY I admit...)

Don't worry about adding to this post, I have thick skin and I have been around long enuff to know that there are many ways to do things, some easier, some cheeper, some better. My way is only one way, and I can't say it is the best.

Good luck, Rg

**raggedjim** · 05-16-2005, 12:42 PM

Knight 182, front discs are a whole different topic, try looking in the suspension board, it too has been beat to death...

Good luck, Rg

1970chevy · 05-17-2005, 08:08 PM

Looks good their but why did you use the corvette master cylinder was their lot of fabricating to put that master cylinder.Do you have any pics of the master cylinder

phantom dually · 05-19-2005, 09:52 PM

I have decided to buy a weld on bracket when doing rear brakes on my Dana 60 rear. The problem i have is that I am cutting down a Dana 60 to fit my 92 stepside truck. I want to keep the 5x5 bolt patern on the wheels. Also I hav to put new housing ends on and mixing the 5x5 rotor with a ford housing end isnt easy to find with a bolt on kit. So Im using a weld on bracket with a 78 caddy seville front rotor 11 1/4" and a 82-92 camaro front caliper and pads. I may have to machine the axleto fit but thats no big prob. Just set the brackets up on the rear set the caliper into place with pads. Take a air chuck and apply pressure to seat the pads and line everything up. Put on a few tacks to hold the bracket to the rearend. After that pull it apart to finish weld. The brackets are only like $18 a piece.

FirstGen · 05-19-2005, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantom dually

I have decided to buy a weld on bracket when doing rear brakes on my Dana 60 rear. The problem i have is that I am cutting down a Dana 60 to fit my 92 stepside truck. I want to keep the 5x5 bolt patern on the wheels. Also I hav to put new housing ends on and mixing the 5x5 rotor with a ford housing end isnt easy to find with a bolt on kit. So Im using a weld on bracket with a 78 caddy seville front rotor 11 1/4" and a 82-92 camaro front caliper and pads. I may have to machine the axleto fit but thats no big prob. Just set the brackets up on the rear set the caliper into place with pads. Take a air chuck and apply pressure to seat the pads and line everything up. Put on a few tacks to hold the bracket to the rearend. After that pull it apart to finish weld. The brackets are only like $18 a piece.

Not a bad idea, where did you get the brackets from? Have a pic?
Thanks.

*Shane* · 05-19-2005, 10:23 PM

do a search at Speedway Motors ... they have brackets for most anything concerning rear discs.

a1gatorz · 05-27-2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drink2mny

All you guys are absolutely right.

But what you forget is there are alot of people out there that don't have the capabilities or don't even want to mess around with machining.
They just want a bolt on kit, which is what ours are...
Thats also why we sell custom kits. We are the only ones that have the widest variety of custom made and the ones on our site.

And as for ordering rotors from out of town, we don't ask you to buy rotors from us we just give you stock numbers to the ones we use so you can buy them at a local auto parts store.

Maybe I'm slow, but are you now stating that I can purchase just the brackets and as a bonus to your custamers you're willing to provide correct P\N 's to purchase rotors localy? Sorry if If I'm being a dumba..

FirstGen · 05-27-2005, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a1gatorz

Maybe I'm slow, but are you now stating that I can purchase just the brackets and as a bonus to your custamers you're willing to provide correct P\N 's to purchase rotors localy? Sorry if If I'm being a dumba..

No he is not willing to do that.

KdawgS10 · 05-27-2005, 06:28 PM

hears a question for you all.

whats my options for a 83 dually for a dana 70 under it?

it needs rear brakes and I despise drums.

drink2mny · 05-27-2005, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KdawgS10

hears a question for you all.

whats my options for a 83 dually for a dana 70 under it?

it needs rear brakes and I despise drums.

Blackbirds Is the only place on the net that sells a dana 70 dually kit.

http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index19.html

We are an option.

Wasted Income · 05-31-2005, 03:09 PM

Hey Roger,

I was just wondering if you (or anyone else who you've already sent it to) can send me the AutoCAD file of those brackets?

Thank you much!

-Jeff

jwjost@mtu.edu

05-15-2005, 08:05 PM	#52
FirstGen Just Don't Stop! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,239	Or just sell the brackets... Not to be a jack but why would I want to spend $350 when I can get the same thing for $300 or less from TSM? __________________ 1968 C10 build in process TT LSA/6L90e/9"

05-15-2005, 10:59 PM	#53
drink2mny Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: spokane wa Posts: 2,189	I'm not going to get into a how we do business thread. Pertaining to the 10 bolt and 12 bolt kits, the rotors are already turned to fit your axle. Plus there are differences in rotor manufacturers. there are slight thickness differences that we have come across since being in the rear disc business for 5-6 years. At that point it became a liabilty issue for us. When you buy a kit we gladly give you all and any info about the products you will receive, but not before hand. It is the customers choice to get a caliper cheaper and always the same no matter were you buy it to go with the brackets and rotors, than to have you get a wrong rotor or have a machine shop mess it up, then you come back to us upset about our products and how it doesn't seam to fit or work right.. But Like I said, We support this board and are here to try to correctly answer any questions you guys have. But mainly we are just an option. As to there is alot of info on the net and other places to buy than us. If you guys have any questions just PM me. I am sorry to RagedJim for taking over his post.. __________________ Support The Board

05-15-2005, 11:27 PM	#56
knight_182 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sweet Home Oregon Posts: 55	how easy is it i was wondering how easy it is to switch the front disc brakes,and if there is anything u messed up on that i might need to know.thanks alot

05-16-2005, 02:24 AM	#58
FirstGen Just Don't Stop! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,239	Exactly.... took the words right out of my mouth! __________________ 1968 C10 build in process TT LSA/6L90e/9"

05-16-2005, 08:46 AM	#61
drink2mny Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: spokane wa Posts: 2,189	All you guys are absolutely right. But what you forget is there are alot of people out there that don't have the capabilities or don't even want to mess around with machining. They just want a bolt on kit, which is what ours are... Thats also why we sell custom kits. We are the only ones that have the widest variety of custom made and the ones on our site. And as for ordering rotors from out of town, we don't ask you to buy rotors from us we just give you stock numbers to the ones we use so you can buy them at a local auto parts store. __________________ Support The Board

05-15-2005, 11:27 PM	#55
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Why machine the rotor ... why not just pull the axle and machine the lug flange ... then you can go to AutoZone / Pep Boys / Local Supplier and buy "off the shelf" peices that don't require machining? Not meant as a flame, that's just the way I did it. Thinking ahead .. I can machine the axles ONE time and skip that process if I ever have to replace the rotors. Just my thoughts ... not meant as an insult or put down to anyone.

05-16-2005, 07:44 AM	#60
1low1967 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mohnton Posts: 87	Can I get a copy of the drawing please. Did you find out if they will work witht the caddy rotors yet?? gtiracer55@hotmail.com Thank you very much

05-16-2005, 11:12 AM	#64
drink2mny Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: spokane wa Posts: 2,189	No problem. Yes, after the original purchase. Later. __________________ Support The Board

05-16-2005, 12:38 PM	#65
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,541	Sorry guys I have been out of town... To those who have requested a copy of the AutoCad drawing it will be Friday, I have alot of travelling to do for work this week. As far as the caddy calipers, I hate to admit I haven't tried it. I don't want to mis-lead anyone with this post. If you have the resources (AutoCad, CNC, machine tools) you CAN do this, but as I mentioned before, if you don't have the resources and don't like figuring things out, BUY a kit! You'll have fewer problems to work out. I have tried to let everyone know the problems I have had messing with these trucks so far and will continue to as I progress (SLOWLY I admit...) Don't worry about adding to this post, I have thick skin and I have been around long enuff to know that there are many ways to do things, some easier, some cheeper, some better. My way is only one way, and I can't say it is the best. Good luck, Rg __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=856475 '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203 Ideas - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=851743

05-16-2005, 12:42 PM	#66
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,541	Knight 182, front discs are a whole different topic, try looking in the suspension board, it too has been beat to death... Good luck, Rg __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=856475 '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203 Ideas - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=851743

05-17-2005, 08:08 PM	#67
1970chevy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: usa Posts: 142	Looks good their but why did you use the corvette master cylinder was their lot of fabricating to put that master cylinder.Do you have any pics of the master cylinder

05-19-2005, 09:52 PM	#68
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	I have decided to buy a weld on bracket when doing rear brakes on my Dana 60 rear. The problem i have is that I am cutting down a Dana 60 to fit my 92 stepside truck. I want to keep the 5x5 bolt patern on the wheels. Also I hav to put new housing ends on and mixing the 5x5 rotor with a ford housing end isnt easy to find with a bolt on kit. So Im using a weld on bracket with a 78 caddy seville front rotor 11 1/4" and a 82-92 camaro front caliper and pads. I may have to machine the axleto fit but thats no big prob. Just set the brackets up on the rear set the caliper into place with pads. Take a air chuck and apply pressure to seat the pads and line everything up. Put on a few tacks to hold the bracket to the rearend. After that pull it apart to finish weld. The brackets are only like $18 a piece. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

05-19-2005, 10:23 PM	#70
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	do a search at Speedway Motors ... they have brackets for most anything concerning rear discs.

05-27-2005, 06:28 PM	#73
KdawgS10 keller Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: st clair MO Posts: 68	hears a question for you all. whats my options for a 83 dually for a dana 70 under it? it needs rear brakes and I despise drums. __________________ 83 1ton 4door dually, 350/700r4 99 S10 2.2/5speed bagged. traded for the dually 91 S10, 2.5/5speed juiced 87 3/4 4x4, 350/4speed 89 S10 long bed , 2.8/5speed 65 chevy short bed stepside, 327/3speed 97 neon acr, 2.0 dohc 5speed DD

05-31-2005, 03:09 PM	#75
Wasted Income Boosted Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mackinaw, IL Posts: 2,200	Hey Roger, I was just wondering if you (or anyone else who you've already sent it to) can send me the AutoCAD file of those brackets? Thank you much! -Jeff jwjost@mtu.edu __________________ 1972 2wd K/5 Blazer Turbocharged 370 LSx - 941 rwhp / 1093 rwtq 1969 Chevy K-10 L33 5.3 / 4L80E / NP241 / 4" lift 1964 Buick Skylark Twin TURBO 383 LS pro-touring project 2014 VW Passat TDI - Daily Driver Turbo diesel 2015 Sierra Denali HD Duramax Turbo diesel 2023 Ford Explorer ST - Twin Turbskis 2023 Ford F150 RCSB - Whipple Supercharged 2017 Polaris RZR Turbo 2014 Nor-Tech Center Console - Twin Supercharged Outboards *TURBO ALL THE THINGS!!* Last edited by Wasted Income; 05-31-2005 at 03:09 PM.



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