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Joe69C10 · 11-02-2015, 11:58 AM

Alright guys, I got my $8.00 Summit 1 ton springs in...Cut 1 full coil and an extra inch. It sits way too high still in the front. I drove it around after this picture was taken and it seemed to possibly settle a little. I didn't take any measurements, but I cant tonight if anyone wants.

I love the way it rides right now. It still has some bounce when you push on the bumper and does not ride or feel too stiff.

I'm going to cut another half coil when I get the motivation to take apart again.

Here is a pic.

solidaxel · 11-02-2015, 12:24 PM

Did you take any measurments before you changed the springs?
Please keep us informed, I need to cut my springs.
Is it possible to get a wire size of your old springs so I can compare with the new ones.
These one ton springs may be too harsh of a ride, yes?

Joe69C10 · 11-02-2015, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidaxel

Did you take any measurments before you changed the springs?
Please keep us informed, I need to cut my springs.
Is it possible to get a wire size of your old springs so I can compare with the new ones.
These one ton springs may be too harsh of a ride, yes?

I didnt get any measurements before I dropped it.

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When you say wire size, do you mean diameter of coil?

The springs ride great. Not harsh at all. I did run Belltech Street Performance shocks. CPP 2" drop spindles up front too.

solidaxel · 11-02-2015, 02:13 PM

Thanks, just the wire size in thousands of inch, of the old or stock spring

RDrancher · 11-02-2015, 02:40 PM

I wouldn't be too quick to cut the coils again. I bet it drops lower with a bit more driving time.

65standard · 11-02-2015, 08:31 PM

Reread post #7 in this tread for the spring specs you're looking for.

**Willowrun** · 11-02-2015, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

Usually 1/2 coil= 1" of drop.
1 coil = 2" of drop.
1-1/2 coils= 3" of drop.

Be conservative on the cutting.
I never cut more than 1-1/2 coils.

This is the advice to follow. Go past 1 1/2 coils cut and the end of the bottom coil progressively moves towards the outside of the spring pocket in the lower A arm. Once that end stops being the first point of contact in the spring pocket you will quickly go from being just a little too high to the inner fenders sitting on the tires.

FWIW, I cut a little too much and had some rubbing. I decided to replace with aftermarket 3" drop springs. Was a little higher but rubbing was worse because of reduced spring rate. It also handled worse than with the cut springs...seems too soft and wallowed on the road. Got some stockers, cut them just right, and now I'm happy.

solidaxel · 11-03-2015, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 65standard

Reread post #7 in this tread for the spring specs you're looking for.

Thank You, That is what I was looking for the "bar Diameter" or wire size

Joe69C10 · 11-03-2015, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidaxel

Thank You, That is what I was looking for the "bar Diameter" or wire size

The bar diameter of my stock springs was exactly 3/4"

slammed427 · 11-03-2015, 12:12 PM

Just got myself a set. Currently back ordered until the 24th. I'll be using these on my dually.

solidaxel · 11-03-2015, 01:12 PM

Got it Thanks
The Moog stock 1/2T looks like it is 0.78" or just a bit bigger than the stock springs you have

Joe69C10 · 11-03-2015, 03:21 PM

Comparing side by side the coils are wound a little tighter too. (Spacing between each coil)

izzy_Britton · 11-04-2015, 01:26 AM

BACK ORDERED SPRINGS! I knew these were on back order, the original email from summit gave a ship date of 11/3 not that it matters, extras.

Received this beautiful message this early this morning.

Item Notice Number New Ship Date
MOG-6454 1966868 11/29/2015
Springs, Front Coil,
OEM Replacement,
Chevy, GMC,
SUV/Trucks, Pair
(Mfr. #: 6454)

AND THEN THIS AFTERNOON I RECEIVED A NEW EMAIL WITH BACK ORDER INFO.

Order Number: 6455750 Ship Date: 11/3/2015

3 Different tracking numbers, shipping from georgia warehouse. woo hoo!

-Izzy

Joe69C10 · 11-06-2015, 11:56 AM

1.5 coils cut. Rides great, front can still come down a little, but I think the new springs will settle over time. Once I put staggered 20's or staggered BFG Radials it will be perfect.

solidaxel · 11-06-2015, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe69C10

1.5 coils cut. Rides great, front can still come down a little, but I think the new springs will settle over time. Once I put staggered 20's or staggered BFG Radials it will be perfect.

Any clearance problems with the inner fender?

school boy · 11-06-2015, 12:57 PM

whats your tire size?

76shorty · 11-06-2015, 03:25 PM

Late to the party!! Price on the springs are up to $88.97

That was a sweet score fellas.

chvtrkman · 11-07-2015, 08:58 PM

....and the guys at Summit doing inventory are on the phone with sales and marketing right now, saying, "Hey Willy, what's up with those Moog 6454 springs? We're selling them out faster than we can get them shipped to us!"

TrailerTrash · 11-08-2015, 10:25 AM

mine havent shipped yet and my confirmation email says they wont charge my card untill they ship... so i hope they dont charge me the updated price

izzy_Britton · 11-08-2015, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe69C10

1.5 coils cut. Rides great, front can still come down a little, but I think the new springs will settle over time. Once I put staggered 20's or staggered BFG Radials it will be perfect.

what other suspension components do you have installed on your truck. I like that height, mine is a little too low.

-Izzy

Joe69C10 · 11-09-2015, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by izzy_Britton

what other suspension components do you have installed on your truck. I like that height, mine is a little too low.

-Izzy

CPP drop spindles up front. CPP Flip Kit in the rear. No notch, and I used Belltech Street Performace shocks.

HotRod C/10 · 11-12-2015, 06:40 PM

Got my 2 sets today fellers! Powdercoated to boot!

HotRod C/10 · 11-12-2015, 06:40 PM

price went up i see.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mog-6454/applications

TrailerTrash · 11-12-2015, 07:32 PM

got mine monday

izzy_Britton · 11-12-2015, 07:33 PM

I got all 3 sets of mine yesterday! I am very anxious to install them...

11-02-2015, 11:58 AM	#51
Joe69C10 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ocala,FL Posts: 129	Re: Front suspension drop failure Alright guys, I got my $8.00 Summit 1 ton springs in...Cut 1 full coil and an extra inch. It sits way too high still in the front. I drove it around after this picture was taken and it seemed to possibly settle a little. I didn't take any measurements, but I cant tonight if anyone wants. I love the way it rides right now. It still has some bounce when you push on the bumper and does not ride or feel too stiff. I'm going to cut another half coil when I get the motivation to take apart again. Here is a pic.

11-02-2015, 12:24 PM	#52
solidaxel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cactus Patch So. Az Posts: 4,749	Re: Front suspension drop failure Did you take any measurments before you changed the springs? Please keep us informed, I need to cut my springs. Is it possible to get a wire size of your old springs so I can compare with the new ones. These one ton springs may be too harsh of a ride, yes? __________________ 53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD) 53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25 55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73 62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327 340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis LS 3 4L70E 65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11 78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42 2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser) 2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42

11-02-2015, 02:13 PM	#54
solidaxel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cactus Patch So. Az Posts: 4,749	Re: Front suspension drop failure Thanks, just the wire size in thousands of inch, of the old or stock spring __________________ 53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD) 53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25 55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73 62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327 340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis LS 3 4L70E 65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11 78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42 2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser) 2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42

11-02-2015, 02:40 PM	#55
RDrancher Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Decatur, Texas Posts: 673	Re: Front suspension drop failure I wouldn't be too quick to cut the coils again. I bet it drops lower with a bit more driving time. __________________ Romans 10:9 - The Truth

11-02-2015, 08:31 PM	#56
65standard Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Coal City, IL Posts: 695	Re: Front suspension drop failure Reread post #7 in this tread for the spring specs you're looking for. __________________ Tony Nicholas @ Midwest Metal Masters 1953 Chevy 3100 392 Hemi w/727 & 9” Ford 1985 Chevy C/10 6.0L 4L80 373 locker

11-03-2015, 12:12 PM	#60
slammed427 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tempe, Az Posts: 325	Re: Front suspension drop failure Just got myself a set. Currently back ordered until the 24th. I'll be using these on my dually. __________________ 74 C10 LWB 350/T5 Dropped on 20's Soon to be Bagged and Injected 84 C35 Crew Cab Dually. 454/400 Dropped a lot. Instagram: mmmdropp

11-03-2015, 01:12 PM	#61
solidaxel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cactus Patch So. Az Posts: 4,749	Re: Front suspension drop failure Got it Thanks The Moog stock 1/2T looks like it is 0.78" or just a bit bigger than the stock springs you have __________________ 53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD) 53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25 55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73 62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327 340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis LS 3 4L70E 65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11 78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42 2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser) 2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42

11-03-2015, 03:21 PM	#62
Joe69C10 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ocala,FL Posts: 129	Re: Front suspension drop failure Comparing side by side the coils are wound a little tighter too. (Spacing between each coil)

11-04-2015, 01:26 AM	#63
izzy_Britton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 632	Re: Front suspension drop failure BACK ORDERED SPRINGS! I knew these were on back order, the original email from summit gave a ship date of 11/3 not that it matters, extras. Received this beautiful message this early this morning. Item Notice Number New Ship Date MOG-6454 1966868 11/29/2015 Springs, Front Coil, OEM Replacement, Chevy, GMC, SUV/Trucks, Pair (Mfr. #: 6454) AND THEN THIS AFTERNOON I RECEIVED A NEW EMAIL WITH BACK ORDER INFO. Order Number: 6455750 Ship Date: 11/3/2015 3 Different tracking numbers, shipping from georgia warehouse. woo hoo! -Izzy __________________ WHO_DCTC - Wifes 05 Z-71 Build - Now defunct as she decided she wants an Escalade too Cream Puff - LS'd Square - Slow going on the back burner Tripple Threat - 3 Wrecks for the price of one build thread Project Delongdium - Step-Sons Plastic Clad 2003 Avalanche - DONE and Delivered.

11-06-2015, 11:56 AM	#64
Joe69C10 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ocala,FL Posts: 129	Re: Front suspension drop failure 1.5 coils cut. Rides great, front can still come down a little, but I think the new springs will settle over time. Once I put staggered 20's or staggered BFG Radials it will be perfect.

11-06-2015, 12:57 PM	#66
school boy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Loretto Ky Posts: 318	Re: Front suspension drop failure whats your tire size? __________________ .....__ ..........._______ \|__\__ ..........\|__(O)______(O)] ........................

11-06-2015, 03:25 PM	#67
76shorty Registered User Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Anaheim california Posts: 11	Re: Front suspension drop failure Late to the party!! Price on the springs are up to $88.97 That was a sweet score fellas.

11-07-2015, 08:58 PM	#68
chvtrkman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PA. Posts: 178	Re: Front suspension drop failure ....and the guys at Summit doing inventory are on the phone with sales and marketing right now, saying, "Hey Willy, what's up with those Moog 6454 springs? We're selling them out faster than we can get them shipped to us!" __________________ _____________________________________________ 69 C-20 292, 4 spd O/D, 4:56 rears. No a/c p/s p/b p/w......restoration project,"Operation:Stovebolt" 78 C-10 305 TH350 new (old) daily driver 02 Suburban Z71 a.k.a. the family truckster 99 Silverado 1500 Z71

11-08-2015, 10:25 AM	#69
TrailerTrash Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: PA Posts: 441	Re: Front suspension drop failure mine havent shipped yet and my confirmation email says they wont charge my card untill they ship... so i hope they dont charge me the updated price

11-12-2015, 06:40 PM	#72
HotRod C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 3,053	Re: Front suspension drop failure Got my 2 sets today fellers! Powdercoated to boot! __________________ SOLD -77 CHEYENNE SWB, LS SWAPPED -1976 SILVERADO YUBA GOLD/NEUTRAL (2-TONE)



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11-12-2015, 06:40 PM	#73
HotRod C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 3,053	Re: Front suspension drop failure price went up i see. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mog-6454/applications __________________ SOLD -77 CHEYENNE SWB, LS SWAPPED -1976 SILVERADO YUBA GOLD/NEUTRAL (2-TONE)

11-12-2015, 07:32 PM	#74
TrailerTrash Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: PA Posts: 441	Re: Front suspension drop failure got mine monday

11-12-2015, 07:33 PM	#75
izzy_Britton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 632	Re: Front suspension drop failure I got all 3 sets of mine yesterday! I am very anxious to install them... __________________ WHO_DCTC - Wifes 05 Z-71 Build - Now defunct as she decided she wants an Escalade too Cream Puff - LS'd Square - Slow going on the back burner Tripple Threat - 3 Wrecks for the price of one build thread Project Delongdium - Step-Sons Plastic Clad 2003 Avalanche - DONE and Delivered.

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