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sixtyfour · 01-01-2008, 03:43 PM

Can someone tell me when the motor is at top dead center on number one cylinder does the ignition rotor point towards the pulleys or the flywheel?

Removed the old oil filter adapter and mounted it on my new motor along with a new oil filter. Disassembled my old distributor and made a oil pump primer out of it. Worked great!

If release bearing comes in tomorrow the motor is definitely going in Tuesday.

gulfcoast66 · 01-01-2008, 04:04 PM

your rotor should point to the number one plug, driver side, up front plug hope this helps.

sixtyfour · 01-01-2008, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulfcoast66

your rotor should point to the number one plug, driver side, up front plug hope this helps.

Ok...thanks!

*Billla* · 01-01-2008, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixtyfour

Oil Filter Mount?

For future reference, these are a good item to replace - the fiber washer can get a little wonky over time. Not required for a street engine, but not a bad idea for a performance engine.

Mr Gasket #1272 (includes bolts)
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

GM #3952301 (requires (2) bolts, below)
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

GM #3951644
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...t=3951644&x=31

sixtyfour · 01-03-2008, 11:49 AM

Motor is in but probably won't start up tonight...we'll see.

Actually got it stabbed in pretty quick, I thought it was going to be more of a headache working alone today. Took about 15 minutes of positioning before I was ready to turn the first bolt.

Right now, just trying to button up everything from the underside. Clutch linkage, fuel line and power steering, then it's top side from there....

62 short step · 01-03-2008, 11:54 AM

Looking good!!

sixtyfour · 01-03-2008, 02:05 PM

One last wrong part...I hope!!

What is this, I'm guessing it's a oil or water temp sensor? Screws into the block on the drivers side under the exhaust manifold. It's to small to screw into my new motor.

71swb4x4 · 01-03-2008, 02:08 PM

It is a water temp sensor.

sixtyfour · 01-03-2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71swb4x4

It is a water temp sensor.

Anyone have any ideas on where I can get this sensor but in 3/4" diameter? I'm googling but can't find anything? All I see are new style sensors?

71swb4x4 · 01-03-2008, 03:52 PM

You can get a bushing to take it up to 3/4". If you look at the one in the picture, that sensor is actually much smaller but already has a bushing on it.
I would pull the old bushing off, and get one bushing that will take you from the small size to the larger size. If you put a bushing on the old bushing your temp sensor won't be reaching into the water jacket very far.

sixtyfour · 01-03-2008, 04:07 PM

Great idea!

1966gmc · 01-03-2008, 04:17 PM

Looks like some serious progress was made.Keep at it.Just remember that the small stuff takes the longest to do

sixtyfour · 01-03-2008, 04:28 PM

I pretty much knocked out all the hard stuff, I'm thinkin about 2 to 3 more hours of wrenchin and be on the road again (knock on wood). It will be tough keeping my foot off the throttle for break in! Can't wait!

scatesracing · 01-04-2008, 05:03 PM

looks great ........... i have put in three of those 290hp gm crate engines for different guys.... i think you will really like it . they run real strong

NF65Fleetside · 01-04-2008, 05:36 PM

daym Im stoked for you just cause of the fact you dropped it in single-handely!!! I know the anticipation to hear her fire up is insane right now!

sixtyfour · 01-06-2008, 05:19 PM

Saturday is the big day! Tonight pretty much finished everything I could. I need to buy a new upper radiator hose and I'm still having problems finding the adapter for the coolant sensor. I have one more place to try for the adapter, if they don't have it I'll have to make something. Throttle linkage is to short, will also need modifying. I cranked it up for a few seconds just to see if it would fire, it fired right up. That's a good sign! Sorry, no pics to add, it was way to dark but I'll post some tomorrow. Stay tuned....

71swb4x4 · 01-07-2008, 07:06 AM

If you can't find that bushing you can always plug that hole for now. In town here I have had the best luck finding those bushings at Runnnings (farm supply), Ace Hardware, and Car Quest.

Edit: this is a DUMB idea, I hope you don't do it. Obviously you will want to know what the temp of your new engine is. I am not sure what I was thinking when I suggested you plug the hole.

62 short step · 01-07-2008, 09:46 AM

You should be able to get a new sending unit at any auto part store. Just bring your old one with you so you know not to get the same size.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 01-07-2008, 11:49 AM

If you get a new one,, Make sure you save your old one and don't throw it away.

msgross · 01-07-2008, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixtyfour

Saturday is the big day! Tonight pretty much finished everything I could. I need to buy a new upper radiator hose and I'm still having problems finding the adapter for the coolant sensor. I have one more place to try for the adapter, if they don't have it I'll have to make something. Throttle linkage is to short, will also need modifying. I cranked it up for a few seconds just to see if it would fire, it fired right up. That's a good sign! Sorry, no pics to add, it was way to dark but I'll post some tomorrow. Stay tuned....

aren't they just brass? try Home Depot plumbing aisle....

sixtyfour · 01-07-2008, 12:52 PM

Update: Got it running no problem. Let it idle at 2000rpm (my neighbors hate me) like cratemotors.com said to in the break in instructions. Letting cool off a bit now.

Question, do I set the timing at idle or at a certain RPM? This is next to do on my list.

My temp senor didn't work, I will post why later tonight....

Thanks!

**ChiefRocka** · 01-07-2008, 01:04 PM

Right on man !!!!!....I would set your timing at idle speed with the dist vacuum disconnected and the hose plugged.

Do this at operating temp.

As far as break in, drive it normal. Don't baby it, but DO not race it either.

Accelerate moderately....also decelerateing from a high speed helps to seat the rings.

Engine look good....great job !!!!

sixtyfour · 01-07-2008, 08:07 PM

Motor is done with the exception of a little tuning and putting the hood back on. It's been a stressful couple of weeks not having a ride! I'm glad it's over!

Reason for water sensor not working...when I was pulling the old motor I didn't notice the sensor and stretched the hell out of it. Need to figure out a new sensor and gauge, that dinosaur stuff needs to go!

Throttle linkage still needs to modified but I have time, won't be needing full throttle till break-in period is over. Will probably work on that tomorrow, This motor has way more cam then I thought it would. My old motor ran smooth as a top, I thought this one would too but it actually has a lumpy idle to it. I like it. Drove it a few miles tonight I can tell a big power difference, and I didn't even get in the throttle all that much! Also exhaust sounds good, alot better then it did before. Well, that's pretty much it...gotta say thanks again for everyones help! I'll post some better pics and video tomorrow...

These pics were taken before I organized the wires...

NF65Fleetside · 01-08-2008, 01:43 PM

Stoked for you man, I know the feeling all to well of having the truck down for weeks....I cant wait to have mine back up and running. Hopefully in 2wks.

JohnnyG. · 01-08-2008, 02:12 PM

wow, i just got mine back on the road. it was down at about the same time as you. i ended up replacing my mexican made 305 with a 283. it has a fresh rebuild and it was free. now i just ahve to get rid of my stupid powerglide. looking good though... its not as easy as it looks when you doing it all by yourself huh...

01-01-2008, 03:43 PM	#76
sixtyfour Zombie Killer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 317	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! Can someone tell me when the motor is at top dead center on number one cylinder does the ignition rotor point towards the pulleys or the flywheel? Removed the old oil filter adapter and mounted it on my new motor along with a new oil filter. Disassembled my old distributor and made a oil pump primer out of it. Worked great! If release bearing comes in tomorrow the motor is definitely going in Tuesday. __________________ 1964 C10 Long Step Last edited by sixtyfour; 01-01-2008 at 04:13 PM.

01-01-2008, 04:04 PM	#77
gulfcoast66 64-66 CHEVY JUNKIE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cypress ,Texas Posts: 1,516	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! your rotor should point to the number one plug, driver side, up front plug hope this helps. __________________ 1966 C-10 Fleetside LWB, 350 Lt1 4l60-E 2008 Silverado Crew Cab, 4.8 4l60-E 1998 GMC Yukon 4x4 L-31 Vortec, 4l60-E 2017 GMC Serra 4x4 5.3 Vortec, 4l60-E Do It In A Chevrolet

01-03-2008, 11:49 AM	#80
sixtyfour Zombie Killer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 317	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! Motor is in but probably won't start up tonight...we'll see. Actually got it stabbed in pretty quick, I thought it was going to be more of a headache working alone today. Took about 15 minutes of positioning before I was ready to turn the first bolt. Right now, just trying to button up everything from the underside. Clutch linkage, fuel line and power steering, then it's top side from there.... __________________ 1964 C10 Long Step Last edited by sixtyfour; 01-03-2008 at 02:10 PM.

01-03-2008, 11:54 AM	#81
62 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenwell Springs, Louisiana Posts: 2,882	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! Looking good!!

01-03-2008, 02:05 PM	#82
sixtyfour Zombie Killer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 317	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! One last wrong part...I hope!! What is this, I'm guessing it's a oil or water temp sensor? Screws into the block on the drivers side under the exhaust manifold. It's to small to screw into my new motor. __________________ 1964 C10 Long Step Last edited by sixtyfour; 01-03-2008 at 02:09 PM.

01-03-2008, 02:08 PM	#83
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! It is a water temp sensor. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

01-03-2008, 03:52 PM	#85
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! You can get a bushing to take it up to 3/4". If you look at the one in the picture, that sensor is actually much smaller but already has a bushing on it. I would pull the old bushing off, and get one bushing that will take you from the small size to the larger size. If you put a bushing on the old bushing your temp sensor won't be reaching into the water jacket very far. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

01-03-2008, 04:07 PM	#86
sixtyfour Zombie Killer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 317	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! Great idea! __________________ 1964 C10 Long Step

01-03-2008, 04:17 PM	#87
1966gmc Why does it taste purple? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge Md Posts: 621	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! Looks like some serious progress was made.Keep at it.Just remember that the small stuff takes the longest to do

01-03-2008, 04:28 PM	#88
sixtyfour Zombie Killer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 317	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! I pretty much knocked out all the hard stuff, I'm thinkin about 2 to 3 more hours of wrenchin and be on the road again (knock on wood). It will be tough keeping my foot off the throttle for break in! Can't wait! __________________ 1964 C10 Long Step

01-04-2008, 05:03 PM	#89
scatesracing Machinist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Derby Kansas Posts: 296	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! looks great ........... i have put in three of those 290hp gm crate engines for different guys.... i think you will really like it . they run real strong

01-04-2008, 05:36 PM	#90
NF65Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 674	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! daym Im stoked for you just cause of the fact you dropped it in single-handely!!! I know the anticipation to hear her fire up is insane right now!

01-06-2008, 05:19 PM	#91
sixtyfour Zombie Killer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 317	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! Saturday is the big day! Tonight pretty much finished everything I could. I need to buy a new upper radiator hose and I'm still having problems finding the adapter for the coolant sensor. I have one more place to try for the adapter, if they don't have it I'll have to make something. Throttle linkage is to short, will also need modifying. I cranked it up for a few seconds just to see if it would fire, it fired right up. That's a good sign! Sorry, no pics to add, it was way to dark but I'll post some tomorrow. Stay tuned.... __________________ 1964 C10 Long Step

01-07-2008, 07:06 AM	#92
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! If you can't find that bushing you can always plug that hole for now. In town here I have had the best luck finding those bushings at Runnnings (farm supply), Ace Hardware, and Car Quest. Edit: this is a DUMB idea, I hope you don't do it. Obviously you will want to know what the temp of your new engine is. I am not sure what I was thinking when I suggested you plug the hole. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. Last edited by 71swb4x4; 01-07-2008 at 09:26 AM.

01-07-2008, 09:46 AM	#93
62 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenwell Springs, Louisiana Posts: 2,882	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! You should be able to get a new sending unit at any auto part store. Just bring your old one with you so you know not to get the same size.



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01-07-2008, 12:52 PM	#96
sixtyfour Zombie Killer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 317	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! Update: Got it running no problem. Let it idle at 2000rpm (my neighbors hate me) like cratemotors.com said to in the break in instructions. Letting cool off a bit now. Question, do I set the timing at idle or at a certain RPM? This is next to do on my list. My temp senor didn't work, I will post why later tonight.... Thanks! __________________ 1964 C10 Long Step Last edited by sixtyfour; 01-07-2008 at 01:00 PM.

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sixtyfour Zombie Killer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 317	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! Motor is done with the exception of a little tuning and putting the hood back on. It's been a stressful couple of weeks not having a ride! I'm glad it's over! Reason for water sensor not working...when I was pulling the old motor I didn't notice the sensor and stretched the hell out of it. Need to figure out a new sensor and gauge, that dinosaur stuff needs to go! Throttle linkage still needs to modified but I have time, won't be needing full throttle till break-in period is over. Will probably work on that tomorrow, This motor has way more cam then I thought it would. My old motor ran smooth as a top, I thought this one would too but it actually has a lumpy idle to it. I like it. Drove it a few miles tonight I can tell a big power difference, and I didn't even get in the throttle all that much! Also exhaust sounds good, alot better then it did before. Well, that's pretty much it...gotta say thanks again for everyones help! I'll post some better pics and video tomorrow... These pics were taken before I organized the wires... __________________ 1964 C10 Long Step Last edited by sixtyfour; 01-07-2008 at 08:08 PM.

01-08-2008, 01:43 PM	#99
NF65Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 674	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! Stoked for you man, I know the feeling all to well of having the truck down for weeks....I cant wait to have mine back up and running. Hopefully in 2wks.

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JohnnyG. Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: atascadero, Ca Posts: 98	Re: Damn...Motor Just Blew! Need Advice! wow, i just got mine back on the road. it was down at about the same time as you. i ended up replacing my mexican made 305 with a 283. it has a fresh rebuild and it was free. now i just ahve to get rid of my stupid powerglide. looking good though... its not as easy as it looks when you doing it all by yourself huh...

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