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*lghtng2* · 09-29-2010, 02:07 PM

thanx for posting pics on the frame conversion, will probably be doing the same myself

**Dieselwrencher** · 09-29-2010, 03:52 PM

Honestly, I think it is a lot less work than swapping a frame under your body. And it would be even less work if you didn't care about filling in all the holes and e-brake mount holes.

dammitmitchell · 09-29-2010, 06:06 PM

your engine grounding strap needs to lay off the steroids!
hahaha

**Dieselwrencher** · 09-29-2010, 11:43 PM

You want a good ground when it's cold out.

lowrollin70gmc · 09-30-2010, 03:47 PM

If you're jokin' on that ground strap, don't ask about my 0/3 running from the battery to block on my burb.

A few questions though: I'm doing almost this same thing to my 68 K20 Burb(my parts truck is a 91 dodge 3/4 4x4 5 speed NP205 D60/D70) and was wondering if the dodge front axle mounts lined up or if you had to "finesse" the springs to bolt it up? And also what size fuel lines will you be using?

Subscribing for when I do my cummins swap.

86k20mudddigger · 09-30-2010, 04:46 PM

the things i would do for that truck...lol
Great looking truck man

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-05-2010, 11:28 PM

Thanks.

Well after I finish the 04 ford I'm doing, I'll get this back in the shop. I think I'm going to set the engine farther back in the frame, and redo my RH side of my engine crossmember to allow for more clearance on the differential housing. Another thing I forgot, on my cowl hood. Once I actually bolted hinges on this truck, the back of the scoop did hit. So I will have to trim it when I fix the front portion of it that cracked from snow and water getting in it and cracking the bond this winter.

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-18-2010, 06:31 PM

No more progress, but here's the newest piece for the truck. I will say, it looks nicer in person than in the catalogs.

watahyahknow · 10-18-2010, 08:26 PM

wow a new cardboard box

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-18-2010, 11:44 PM

Yeah, a really expensive card board box!

nickp51chevy · 10-18-2010, 11:58 PM

Cool build. With all these diesels running around it makes me kinda wanna put one in my rig.

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-19-2010, 02:31 PM

Here in a month or so, I'm thinking of building some engine crossmembers and engine mounts for a 12v cummins in 67-72 4x4's, 2x4's, and 73-91 4x4's and 2x4's. We'll see. I'm thinking of upgrading vendor status and selling them if it all works out.

watahyahknow · 10-19-2010, 07:45 PM

maibe you can talk to porterbuild for that , those dropmembers fit a lot of engines

madmopar · 10-19-2010, 07:57 PM

sounds like a money maker! You certainly seem to have the experience. Maybe I'll find a 12v somewhere and drop that in my GMC, using one of your custom pieces.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-03-2010, 04:01 PM

Well I purchased some new to me mirrors for the truck last week and they came in the other day. I went out and put them on so they won't get lost.

The more I look at this truck, the more I think it needs atleast 33's.

abebummy26 · 11-03-2010, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Well I purchased some new to me mirrors for the truck last week and they came in the other day. I went out and put them on so they won't get lost.

The more I look at this truck, the more I think it needs atleast 33's.

I've always dug that style of mirror seem to be the most useful mirror that there is out there. Plus they look decent.

And yeah it would appear to need just a little more tire under there

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-03-2010, 11:08 PM

My only fear is, I don't want to get this truck too high because then I won't be able to tow my goose neck trailer.

dammitmitchell · 11-03-2010, 11:32 PM

take a leaf off ehhehe

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-04-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dammitmitchell

take a leaf off ehhehe

I could and I might after I reposition the engine.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-04-2010, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowrollin70gmc

If you're jokin' on that ground strap, don't ask about my 0/3 running from the battery to block on my burb.

A few questions though: I'm doing almost this same thing to my 68 K20 Burb(my parts truck is a 91 dodge 3/4 4x4 5 speed NP205 D60/D70) and was wondering if the dodge front axle mounts lined up or if you had to "finesse" the springs to bolt it up? And also what size fuel lines will you be using?

Subscribing for when I do my cummins swap.

Sorry I didn't see this sooner, I would have responded. The dodge axle is a little wider on the perches. I used a port-a-power and spread the leaf springs out, and I had a jack under each side of the diff. I was putting slight pressure on the axle while I was moving the port-a-power. I want to say it was 3/8"-1/2" difference I had to spread the springs to get the axle seated. It sounds bad, but it wasn't at all. On the dodge D60, it has 3 rubber brake lines. I kept it this way and built my brake lines according since my truck had no brake lines on it anyhow.

I will be using minimum of 3/8" for fuel supply and 5/16" for return. I might end up installing an Air Dog 150 on this truck by the time its all said and done. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.

watahyahknow · 11-04-2010, 01:53 AM

you could use airbags instead of leafsprings in the rear for the gooseneck , it would allso help resist the rear squatting once the trailer is loaded and you can lift the rear as high as you like it when you dont pull the trailer , on the dually scene they use them a lot and pulling two car trailers mostly slam RE 4's
you dont realy need tanks and stuff just a pump and some valves when you only raise and lower them when standing still

mosesburb · 11-05-2010, 12:30 AM

Morrors look good. That is the same style that I have. Very functional, but not obnoxious/in-the-way/blind spots.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

I could and I might after I reposition the engine.

Huh?? Sup wit dat??

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-05-2010, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesburb

Morrors look good. That is the same style that I have. Very functional, but not obnoxious/in-the-way/blind spots.

Huh?? Sup wit dat??

I might leave it where it is depending on how much clearance I gain after I redo,modify, my engine cross member. If I can't get enough clearance I will have to raise the engine up a little bit. We'll have to see.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-11-2010, 05:33 PM

OK, today Mathew and I were loading scrap, and I decided the old hood on the Longhorn was going bye bye. So when we came back we installed my new hood. It fits pretty well. I am still going to have to fine tune it, but it is pretty good considering the rest of the truck.

It looks like I will be removing the engine from this truck now too. My brother needs to get his truck off the ground, out of the weeds, and from a million pieces to a few. So I'm giving his engine back so he has no, "But you have my engine!", excuses.

I will put in a 96 12v once I redo my engine cross member. The more I look at it, the more it irritates me.

watahyahknow · 11-11-2010, 06:10 PM

youre brother could put the truck together untill it NEEDS the engine put in , that at least gives you one running vehicle most of the time

09-29-2010, 02:07 PM	#101
lghtng2 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 179	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion thanx for posting pics on the frame conversion, will probably be doing the same myself

09-29-2010, 03:52 PM	#102
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Honestly, I think it is a lot less work than swapping a frame under your body. And it would be even less work if you didn't care about filling in all the holes and e-brake mount holes. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

09-29-2010, 06:06 PM	#103
dammitmitchell the pollock Join Date: May 2008 Location: abilene, texas Posts: 4,423	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion your engine grounding strap needs to lay off the steroids! hahaha __________________ Jack of ALL trades, Master of none.. (but one... procrastination) Army vet 02-08 RIP El Jay! Miss you brother! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=343538 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=386042

09-29-2010, 11:43 PM	#104
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion You want a good ground when it's cold out. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

09-30-2010, 03:47 PM	#105
lowrollin70gmc Too many projects Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fargo, ND land of the flat hills Posts: 1,147	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion If you're jokin' on that ground strap, don't ask about my 0/3 running from the battery to block on my burb. A few questions though: I'm doing almost this same thing to my 68 K20 Burb(my parts truck is a 91 dodge 3/4 4x4 5 speed NP205 D60/D70) and was wondering if the dodge front axle mounts lined up or if you had to "finesse" the springs to bolt it up? And also what size fuel lines will you be using? Subscribing for when I do my cummins swap. __________________ Andrew 84 GMC C1500 SWB 6.2 Diesel/700R4/3.42 "Grandpa's odd duck" 70 GMC C1500 LWB My first truck: shaved, bagged, and more: the lowrollin70gmc 68 K20 Suburban 12V Cummins/NV5600/NP205/D60/11.5AAM 3.73s "Dakota Cadillac" 63 Chevy II Nova Coupe 250 I6/T56/4.56s "Economy car" 53 Willys Wagon 350/NV4500/BW4401/HP D44/9inch “Winter Wagon” 30 Model A 16 Focus ST

09-30-2010, 04:46 PM	#106
86k20mudddigger Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: livermore ca Posts: 114	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion the things i would do for that truck...lol Great looking truck man

10-05-2010, 11:28 PM	#107
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Thanks. Well after I finish the 04 ford I'm doing, I'll get this back in the shop. I think I'm going to set the engine farther back in the frame, and redo my RH side of my engine crossmember to allow for more clearance on the differential housing. Another thing I forgot, on my cowl hood. Once I actually bolted hinges on this truck, the back of the scoop did hit. So I will have to trim it when I fix the front portion of it that cracked from snow and water getting in it and cracking the bond this winter. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

10-18-2010, 06:31 PM	#108
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion No more progress, but here's the newest piece for the truck. I will say, it looks nicer in person than in the catalogs. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

10-18-2010, 08:26 PM	#109
watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion wow a new cardboard box __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts

10-18-2010, 11:44 PM	#110
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Yeah, a really expensive card board box! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

10-18-2010, 11:58 PM	#111
nickp51chevy Registered Chevy Owner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Snohomish, wa Posts: 1,557	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Cool build. With all these diesels running around it makes me kinda wanna put one in my rig. __________________ Love is fleeting, but Chevy trucks are forever!!!! 1970 Chevy CST C10 long box 350/400 2008 Chevy Silverado short box 4x4 Had; 1951 Chevy short box 307/T5 1988 Chevy shot box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C20 long box 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 350/350

10-19-2010, 02:31 PM	#112
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Here in a month or so, I'm thinking of building some engine crossmembers and engine mounts for a 12v cummins in 67-72 4x4's, 2x4's, and 73-91 4x4's and 2x4's. We'll see. I'm thinking of upgrading vendor status and selling them if it all works out. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

10-19-2010, 07:45 PM	#113
watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion maibe you can talk to porterbuild for that , those dropmembers fit a lot of engines __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts

10-19-2010, 07:57 PM	#114
madmopar This guy has got to be stopped Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Frankenstein, MO Posts: 138	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion sounds like a money maker! You certainly seem to have the experience. Maybe I'll find a 12v somewhere and drop that in my GMC, using one of your custom pieces. __________________ J P Evers 1970 4x4 LWB project: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=415134

11-03-2010, 04:01 PM	#115
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion Well I purchased some new to me mirrors for the truck last week and they came in the other day. I went out and put them on so they won't get lost. The more I look at this truck, the more I think it needs atleast 33's. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*



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11-03-2010, 11:08 PM	#117
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion My only fear is, I don't want to get this truck too high because then I won't be able to tow my goose neck trailer. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

11-03-2010, 11:32 PM	#118
dammitmitchell the pollock Join Date: May 2008 Location: abilene, texas Posts: 4,423	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion take a leaf off ehhehe __________________ Jack of ALL trades, Master of none.. (but one... procrastination) Army vet 02-08 RIP El Jay! Miss you brother! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=343538 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=386042

11-04-2010, 01:53 AM	#121
watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion you could use airbags instead of leafsprings in the rear for the gooseneck , it would allso help resist the rear squatting once the trailer is loaded and you can lift the rear as high as you like it when you dont pull the trailer , on the dually scene they use them a lot and pulling two car trailers mostly slam RE 4's you dont realy need tanks and stuff just a pump and some valves when you only raise and lower them when standing still __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts

11-11-2010, 05:33 PM	#124
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion OK, today Mathew and I were loading scrap, and I decided the old hood on the Longhorn was going bye bye. So when we came back we installed my new hood. It fits pretty well. I am still going to have to fine tune it, but it is pretty good considering the rest of the truck. It looks like I will be removing the engine from this truck now too. My brother needs to get his truck off the ground, out of the weeds, and from a million pieces to a few. So I'm giving his engine back so he has no, "But you have my engine!", excuses. I will put in a 96 12v once I redo my engine cross member. The more I look at it, the more it irritates me. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

11-11-2010, 06:10 PM	#125
watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion youre brother could put the truck together untill it NEEDS the engine put in , that at least gives you one running vehicle most of the time __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts

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