86 squarebody made2drag

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by 91Subbed

Ok this is what I've got so far...
Install brackets and bags
1/2 fittings on top of bags
Run the 1/2 air line inside cab.

Ok now do I Tee it to a 1/2 inch schrader or manifold.
Or can I hook it up to a manual valve with a gauge and switch.
Tank and compressor?
Posted via Mobile Device

you can take the 2 airlines from the bags and connect to the tee. the tee can stay in the eng compartment and when you come out of the tee run the 1 airline thru the firewall. there is a grommet on the firewall behind the brake petal that comes out and you can slide it thru there. at the end of that air line put a push to connect 1/2 in fitting there and then a coupler that is also 1/2 and then a reducer so you can screw in the 1/8 inch schrader....you dont need a manifold if you are just using a schrader valve to air in and out the bags.

tank and compressor....yes get some. right now you need to do it real simple and once you get the hang of what we are talking about then add a compressor and tank. it will be a no brainer once you actually start doing this.

i would say lay all this stuff out on a table. hook up the bag on the table with the fittings and stuff and air it up. then imagine the set up on the truck. then do 1 phase at a time

[91Subbed]

On your manifold set up the air line by the steering wheel is to both bags and the other by the compressor is to the tank, right?
So where the bags tee'd then ran into one side of the manifold?
So I could connect a tank to the right side and instead of the portable compressor I could run a schrader valve, right?
Hope the is right!!!
Posted via Mobile Device

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by 91Subbed

On your manifold set up the air line by the steering wheel is to both bags and the other by the compressor is to the tank, right?
So where the bags tee'd then ran into one side of the manifold?
So I could connect a tank to the right side and instead of the portable compressor I could run a schrader valve, right?
Hope the is right!!!
Posted via Mobile Device

there you go! exactly right...then use the comp to air up the tank obviously

its alot easier with the stuff in front of you and when your actually hooking it up then trying to imagine it without parts

[91Subbed]

Yes!!! Thanks man I really appreciate all your help and helping me understand how everything works!
Once I'm done with the front and play a Lil it's on to the back!!!
Thanks again!
Posted via Mobile Device

[91Subbed]

Made2drag: I forgot to ask are you using front shocks or do you have drop shocks???
I have my lines I got the schrader valve set up I'm just waiting for the weekend so I can start installing my bags!
Anything I should be looking out for? Did you run into any bumps while tearing down the front?
Thanks again!
Posted via Mobile Device

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by 91Subbed

Made2drag: I forgot to ask are you using front shocks or do you have drop shocks???
I have my lines I got the schrader valve set up I'm just waiting for the weekend so I can start installing my bags!
Anything I should be looking out for? Did you run into any bumps while tearing down the front?
Thanks again!
Posted via Mobile Device

stock shocks still

make sure you use extreme caution when taking the springs out.

you have to use a spring compressor!

i know a guy who's dad's best friend was killed when he took the springs off the wrong way. they are under extreme pressure

in my picture you can see i took the uca nuts off where it bolts to the frame...i did this because the upper spindle ball joint wouldnt come loose even after several bolws with a huge hammer.

make sure to keep your brake line hoses from fully extending so they dont break. other than that, i would say find a thread where someone shows you step by step what to do

[made2drag]

i did a quick search for video using the autozone tool that is free to borrow. when its on your truck's coil it will be flipped the other way and you would use your socket underneath. the fork thing should go as low in the coil you can get it and the 2 hooks should be hooked as high as you can get it. even when you tighten the nut and compress the spring a couple inches, when you take it out it will pop a little and scare the mess out of you the first time. the first one will take awhile but when you get to the other side you'll remember the angle you slid it in at and other various things you figured out on the first side.

Autozone Spring compressor part 2 - YouTube

[91Subbed]

I see... Hey once i do the front bags what about the back? I don't wanna leave it sitting high...Should I get a flip kit till I get the rear bags? What do you suggest?
Posted via Mobile Device

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by 91Subbed

I see... Hey once i do the front bags what about the back? I don't wanna leave it sitting high...Should I get a flip kit till I get the rear bags? What do you suggest?
Posted via Mobile Device

if it were mine and since it is a suburban....which is hard to do the rear on since you can take a bed off....i would buy a flip kit and see how much room you still have between your axle and frame. if you want to go as low as your axle touching frame, put some shackles on or pull one leaf spring. shackles are better than pulling a leaf. then i would add some air shocks and shock extenders so the shock is more upright. this worked great when i had a 93 yukon

change the air shocks later to an airbag helper kit that bolts to the side of your frame. but if you want a really good setup the guy to ask is justpball, he has a killer rear setup in my opinion

[54Caddy]

nice truck man. like the way your getting things done. when are you going to do the rear set up?

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by 54Caddy

nice truck man. like the way your getting things done. when are you going to do the rear set up?

right now im cutting and building some step notches. hopefully have them welded and on my frame in a week or 2. then im gonna add 3x3 tubing to make some lowering blocks. when i did the flip my angle finder helped me get my trans output and differential lined up so 3 inch blocks should be fine...sleeve bags and shocks after that....then if it rides terrible, i will go with a extensive 2 link. also want to add a hitch while the beds off. when i get a sport bumper im going to put a camaro flip license plate holder so i can tow a trailer if i want to

[91Subbed]

It looks like he has bottom axel brackets bags top brackets flip kit shock extenders. It looks pretty simple?
Another question: on a front and rear system would it be better to run a 5gal tank and compressor for the front and a tank/compressor for the back? I was thinking yes cause of the weight of my suburban.
Posted via Mobile Device

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by 91Subbed

It looks like he has bottom axel brackets bags top brackets flip kit shock extenders. It looks pretty simple?
Another question: on a front and rear system would it be better to run a 5gal tank and compressor for the front and a tank/compressor for the back? I was thinking yes cause of the weight of my suburban.
Posted via Mobile Device

not sure if it would be better or not.

if you ran all valves and 2 compressors to 1 tank.....the tank would fill up fast and you would have faster recovery from 0 psi i would think. but then i dont know because having sep tank and 2 compressor would be good if you mostly use your front switches and then you could use a sep tank and compressor for the rear.....3 comp and 2 tanks i think would work the best...never thought about that

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by 91Subbed

It looks like he has bottom axel brackets bags top brackets flip kit shock extenders. It looks pretty simple?
Another question: on a front and rear system would it be better to run a 5gal tank and compressor for the front and a tank/compressor for the back? I was thinking yes cause of the weight of my suburban.
Posted via Mobile Device

i started a thread to get opinions on this

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...79#post5120679

[91Subbed]

How did you make those flipkit brackets? Do you sell them? I was looking online they're pretty pricey! I saw a pretty good kit from Stillen it had flipkit cnotch shock brackets all the hardware.
Posted via Mobile Device

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by 91Subbed

How did you make those flipkit brackets? Do you sell them? I was looking online they're pretty pricey! I saw a pretty good kit from Stillen it had flipkit cnotch shock brackets all the hardware.
Posted via Mobile Device

got some axle seats from tractor supply co. and some flat bar they also sell. then before i finished the flip brackets i put them in and moved my differential around until my angle finder said the differential was at the same angle as my transmission output and then measured from the axle seats to the inside of the axle seats on the housing for the front and rear on each side. cut my flat bar test fitted then took the brackets out and welded the peices then put them back in and tightened everything up. make sure to mark the yoke posistion where the driveshaft goes into the transmission. i scored it and when i was done it was in the same place. you dont want your drive shaft to be too far forward or too far back. i think there is about an inch of movement.

axle seats were 9 bucks for the pair and flat bar was about 7 bucks. i have seen flip kits go for about 90 bucks. you have to search really hard though.

i dont sell them. its the second set i made but for different vehicles both times and its not fun. the first pair i made with square tubing and flat bar and it took 3 hours. buy the 9 buck ones and it will only take 30 mins. take them to a muffler shop to get them welded if your not up on welding. dont want anything to come apart.

[91Subbed]

I was checking out "justpball" thread and I was looking at the rear setup and it's pretty straight forward the question I have is about the leaf springs, do you need the leafs if you have the flipkit and bags?
Posted via Mobile Device

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by 91Subbed

I was checking out "justpball" thread and I was looking at the rear setup and it's pretty straight forward the question I have is about the leaf springs, do you need the leafs if you have the flipkit and bags?
Posted via Mobile Device

flipkits are for leaf springs.

you can have bags on leaves springs or link bars with bags on them or mount the bags somewhere else and use leafs or bars. check out N2TRUX's bag over leaf pics or send him a pm. he now has a different setup though

[strokd 84]

Thanks man. I've been looking forward to this resto for a long time. Now that I finally have the cash, I'm excited to get started!
Posted via Mobile Device

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by strokd 84

Thanks man. I've been looking forward to this resto for a long time. Now that I finally have the cash, I'm excited to get started!
Posted via Mobile Device

please send me a link when you start your build

[strokd 84]

Will do. But the "build" will belong to the body shop. I just pay the bills - LOL
Posted via Mobile Device

[timzrides]

Very cool build, like it!

[made2drag]

Originally Posted by timzrides

Very cool build, like it!

thanks, low budget but its getting done

[made2drag]

made some step notches last night. got them tacked together. sawzall and lots of grinding. still have to cut the bottom angles to match the angle where they sit in the frame.
also, need to get my 4 in plate (3/16) ready to box the frame in around them.

[made2drag]

made a bunch of runs with my welder.....i don't think im good enough yet at welding to tackle welding them in, so i'm gonna take them to Titan Fabrications in Prattville AL. all i'll have to do is cut some slits to get them in position and then cut the old out when they're done.