My whole braking system - thinking out loud

[Captainfab]

Do you have an application for those rotors? It sounds like you setup and drilled the holes on a CNC? How long do you figure it took you to turn the original rotors into hubs? It seems like someone already makes aluminum hubs that will work on the truck spindles. I'll have to find them and see how much they are.

Originally Posted by 87chevy.com

this is the front rotor setup I was mentioning earlier..

I must have been in a hurry and didnt double check the spacing in the autocad file becuase I drilled the frist patten to 5.25.. lol... these rotors are at minimum anyway, but the second pattern (shoulda been the 1st) was spot on.



and with the rotor turned upside down, you can see how it fits perfectly onto the stock replacment rotor and already has a bevel. For those who will notice the studs dont stick out much.. the stock rotor was not turned into a hub yet so the Dodge rotor was sitting down on the stock rotor surface.. I think the studs will need to be longer anyway



Weather permitting, I will be going to the pick and pull for a spindle nut and washer... Ace hardware didnt have a 3/4x20 nut, or castle nut... plus they want 5 bucks anyway.. then I will be able to snug everything down and start working on the caliper adapter bracket
clint

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by Captainfab

Do you have an application for those rotors? It sounds like you setup and drilled the holes on a CNC? How long do you figure it took you to turn the original rotors into hubs? It seems like someone already makes aluminum hubs that will work on the truck spindles. I'll have to find them and see how much they are.

KORE3 makes billet alum hubs for C10's. They're very nice & were less than 4-bills.

[Captainfab]

That's right, that was one of them. Thanks Scot. Chris Alston makes them too, but I don't know if they're available seperately. Are the KORE3 hubs available in a 5x5? The website just says the have a dual 5 x 4 3/4" pattern.

Originally Posted by SCOTI

KORE3 makes billet alum hubs for C10's. They're very nice & were less than 4-bills.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by Captainfab

That's right, that was one of them. Thanks Scot. Chris Alston makes them too, but I don't know if they're available seperately. Are the KORE3 hubs available in a 5x5? The website just says the have a dual 5 x 4 3/4" pattern.

They are available in dual patterns. Mine are 5x4.75 & 5x5.

[87chevy.com]

Originally Posted by Captainfab

Do you have an application for those rotors? It sounds like you setup and drilled the holes on a CNC? How long do you figure it took you to turn the original rotors into hubs? It seems like someone already makes aluminum hubs that will work on the truck spindles. I'll have to find them and see how much they are.

No CNC here, just a lexmark printer, punch and hammer... I didnt turn the rotor into a hub just yet... I wanted to measure the runout of the hub, or see if there was any before I cut up a brand new rotor.
As far as the rotor its from a 2003 newer dodge ram 1500. As far as the new pattern I used a template I created in Autocad. Before I attached it to the face of the rotor, I got a pick and poked a small hole where the chevy pattern was (makes center punching it supa easy. I attached the pattern to the face of the rotor with some stuff called butyle aka dumb dumb (it's like sticky tack but for cars) and stuck it onto the face of the rotor. Turned it upside down and moved the pattern untill everything lined up. Silmply took a center pinch and hammer to mark the new pattern. Removed template and center punched the new holes a second time. Used a 1/8 bit to start with, then progressed to 17/32. Later I chosed 17/32 becuase it was a hair larger than 1/2 to give me a little wiggle room incase a hole was not 100% on the money. I will put a picture of the pattern I am refering to.
Clint

edit:
heres the screenshot of the pattern I whipped up... the ones with the (X) is the dodge, and the other... obvious.

[lolife99]

Got my Captainfab D52 rear caliper brackets today.
Excellent quality product!

Thanks again for designing and manufacturing these brackets.

[Captainfab]

Thanks for the compliment Keith

Originally Posted by lolife99

Got my Captainfab D52 rear caliper brackets today.
Excellent quality product!

Thanks again for designing and manufacturing these brackets.

I finally got a for sale thread started for these rear disc brake brackets HERE

[skeeterbug]

looking forward to getting my captain fab d52 caliper brakets, my willwood calipers and disc/disc prop. valve came in sat via fed ex truck. i also went yesterday and got the rotors and a dual diapram booster to go on one of cap. fabs booster brackets. everything is painted and disassembled ready for an upgrade, i cant wait to see the difference manual brakes to four wheel power disc brakes make. lolife 99 did you get your lines yet, just wondering if anyone has figured that part of the process out yet? also what brake pads to use, hmmmm.....?

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by skeeterbug

looking forward to getting my captain fab d52 caliper brakets, my willwood calipers and disc/disc prop. valve came in sat via fed ex truck. i also went yesterday and got the rotors and a dual diapram booster to go on one of cap. fabs booster brackets. everything is painted and disassembled ready for an upgrade, i cant wait to see the difference manual brakes to four wheel power disc brakes make. lolife 99 did you get your lines yet, just wondering if anyone has figured that part of the process out yet? also what brake pads to use, hmmmm.....?

I plan on using braided lines.
Any line that accepts a 7/16-20 banjo bolt will work.
Speedway Motors sells them in rubber ($39/pair) or steel braided ($49/pair) for a reasonable price.
Make sure you get D.O.T. approved brake lines.
Any stock D52 pad will work. (Same as the front disc brake pads)

[N2TRUX]

Originally Posted by lolife99

...Speedway Motors sells them in rubber ($39/pair) or steel braided ($49/pair) ....

Really? Makes you wonder why any one buy rubber if stainless is only $10.00 more. I guess thats for the retro builds.

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Really? Makes you wonder why any one buy rubber if stainless is only $10.00 more. I guess thats for the retro builds.

Rubber:
Part# 617-8563 $39.99/set
(Includes banjo bolts, clips, and brackets)

Steel braided:
Part# 617-8562 (front 16" hoses) $49.99/set

Part# 617-8564 (rear 8" hoses) $49.99/set

[Captainfab]

Your parts shipped out today. If you didn't get an email with tracking info, let me know. Thanks.

Originally Posted by skeeterbug

looking forward to getting my captain fab d52 caliper brakets, my willwood calipers and disc/disc prop. valve came in sat via fed ex truck. i also went yesterday and got the rotors and a dual diapram booster to go on one of cap. fabs booster brackets. everything is painted and disassembled ready for an upgrade, i cant wait to see the difference manual brakes to four wheel power disc brakes make. lolife 99 did you get your lines yet, just wondering if anyone has figured that part of the process out yet? also what brake pads to use, hmmmm.....?

[crakarjax]

Don't the rear brakes use hard lines?

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by crakarjax

Don't the rear brakes use hard lines?

Rear disc brake calipers require a flex line.
Ususally a steel line is mounted to the rearend housing and then converted to a flex line at each rear wheel.

[N2TRUX]

Thanks for sharing the part #s Keith.

Originally Posted by crakarjax

Don't the rear brakes use hard lines?

Normally yes. In this application they are using front calipers on the rear so it requires the same soft line.

[smashingchuck]

I might add that I found out the hard way that the front flex lines for a 67-72 are much shorter than those for a 73-87.

[suttoncurt]

Wow - I just realized i screwed up! I ordered four of the same front caliper . For the back I need the one with the smaller piston ? I ordered from jeff and he said something about it but i thought he was talking about rotor width ? Can someone chime in on this - Thanks

[smashingchuck]

Originally Posted by suttoncurt

Wow - I just realized i screwed up! I ordered four of the same front caliper . For the back I need the one with the smaller piston ? I ordered from jeff and he said something about it but i thought he was talking about rotor width ? Can someone chime in on this - Thanks

Yes, you want the smaller bore for the rear.

[suttoncurt]

Originally Posted by smashingchuck

Yes, you want the smaller bore for the rear.

Thanks Chuck - Ill get in touch with cpp jeff and get it corrected!

[skeeterbug]

i got my smaller piston calipers (willwood) from jegs, i belive they measured 1.25 or 1.5, i know the front calipers measured 2.0. i will have to double check the rear calipers measurement to be certain

[aggie91]

Originally Posted by skeeterbug

i got my smaller piston calipers (willwood) from jegs, i belive they measured 1.25 or 1.5, i know the front calipers measured 2.0. i will have to double check the rear calipers measurement to be certain

Originally Posted by aggie91

They make to 4 versions of the Wilwood D52 caliper, two have 1.25" diameter pistons for a 1" and a 1.25" thick rotor. The other two have 2" diameter pistons for a 1" and a 1.25" thick rotor.

The smaller bore calipers are recommended for the rear and the larger for the front to keep proper front-to-rear bias. I got this info from the Summit catalog...

posted previously, the ones for the rear have 1.25" pistons...

[skeeterbug]

cool thanks for looking that up aggie91, now i know for sure without even looking.

captain fab, thanks for all you, smashing chuck and friends have done to keep this alive now we all have another alternative for rear disk brakes.... and another reason to spend more time and money on our trucks.

[suttoncurt]

Originally Posted by skeeterbug

cool thanks for looking that up aggie91, now i know for sure without even looking.

captain fab, thanks for all you, smashing chuck and friends have done to keep this alive now we all have another alternative for rear disk brakes.... and another reason to spend more time and money on our trucks.

x2 !

[silvereagle07]

Wow Captain! The brackets looks really good. I will purchase a few sets soon.

[Captainfab]

Thanks for the compliment

When you get ready to place an order, post HERE in the for sale thread and then contact me to make the payment. I'll get you taken care of.

Originally Posted by silvereagle07

Wow Captain! The brackets looks really good. I will purchase a few sets soon.