What can be said about the 4-speed New Process NV833 overdrive manual transmission?

[Gregski]

unfortunately that side cover belonged to another customer, but Larry disappeared for a few minutes and reappeared with another side cover, it looked grungy but it too had the pin going all the way through, he said "FIFTY BUCKS"

I said "FOURTY"

He said "FOURTY FIVE"

I said "FOURTY PALEAZE"

He said "DEAL"

he was happy, and I was thrilled!!!

the mystery of the stupid design GM pin was solved!!!

[Gregski]

see how on mine (the cleaner cover) there is no pin sticking out on the bottom below the top pin

and now see how on the corrected / fixed / retrofitted cover (the dirtier one) there is a pin with a snip on washer clipping it through the side cover and holding it in place, the way God intended

[Gregski]

and of course once you know the part number you can Google it and we find that a good cover (with the pin sticking out) is for sale on eBay right now for $135 bucks plus another $25 for shipping!!! yaykes The Greg done good gettin' his for $40

[walkerb]

Well damn.......... win for Greg but not for us with the hole less covers........

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by walkerb

Well damn.......... win for Greg but not for us with the hole less covers........

maybe not, maybe the scissor pin from the Muncie 4 Speed will work, here's one listed on eBay for $10 bucks, here's what it looks like, sorry don't know the diameter or length

and here's what their side cover looks like

[Gregski]

better yet, the Mopar A833 Overdrive version of this transmission is way more popular than our GM one and guess what it uses the exact same side cover part number and all, C-13550-2 (well the new and improved side cover that is, with the pin hole, like we want)

here's a pic

[hatzie]

Is there any reason not to just bore the hole the rest of the way through the older cover on a milling machine or good tight drillpress?

[walkerb]

Originally Posted by hatzie

Is there any reason not to just bore the hole the rest of the way through the older cover on a milling machine or good tight drillpress?

Your right, probably the easiest way to go.....

[hatzie]

Originally Posted by Gregski

maybe not, maybe the scissor pin from the Muncie 4 Speed will work, here's one listed on eBay for $10 bucks, here's what it looks like, sorry don't know the diameter or length

and here's what their side cover looks like

Some oil hardening tool steel and a small lathe like my 7x14 little green monster would come in handy here. There's really not much to that pin. The little Chicom lathes are too expensive now for what they are. Mine was just under $300 in 2000 and after some cleanup and upgrades like the 14" bed it's been a good little machine. Little is the operative word... but pins and bushings fall right into its' tiny work envelope. I can stuff it under the bench after a spraying the unpainted parts with Rustlick 631 on a shelf with an oiled canvas cover. The 16x42 South Bend ain't so portable and I don't like making small pieces on it even using a 3" chuck or collets

[Flathead Smith]

Originally Posted by Gregski

so decided to cut out the stick out of my shifter bottom end assembly for two reasons

1. the threads for the ball were broken off on it anyways

2. I did not like the hockey welded in install, even if it was factory

I'm pretty sure that weld on the shifter was not factory, and was added later.

I am fixing to install a cast iron version of one of the A833 transmission in my truck and there is no weld on either one of the two shifters I have. I was originally thinking the shifter was slipped in and then squeezed shut by a pressing operation, but now after seeing the information you posted, I'm thinking it is removable.

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Another thing to consider if you need a driveshaft. This A833 transmission uses the same 27 spline yoke as a Turbo 350/700R4 (it also uses the same tail-shaft bushing, which is easy to replace... My transmission shop installed mine for $3.00, which included the bushing). I haven't checked this out yet, but there is a chance that the transmission, when bolted to the clutch housing, might have the same length as either one of these two transmissions. If it does, we'll know what truck to look for at the nearest Pick&Pull.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Flathead Smith

I'm pretty sure that weld on the shifter was not factory, and was added later.

I am fixing to install a cast iron version of one of the A833 transmission in my truck and there is no weld on either one of the two shifters I have. I was originally thinking the shifter was slipped in and then squeezed shut by a pressing operation, but now after seeing the information you posted, I'm thinking it is removable.

Unless I'm missing your point I think I already addressed this.

K

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Correct. The bottom of the shift handle snaps into the shifter base with no tools, for ease of assembly. There is a notch on the stick that corresponds to the retention tang on the clip.

Incidentally, the guy that installed these shifters on the assembly line, as well as the M20 shifters, worked for me when I ran the Fender Set area. He also installed the cab running lights and the SPID label.


K

[Ziklag]

I have one of these transmissions for sale if anyone is interested. 1986 Chevy half ton.

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by Ziklag

I have one of these transmissions for sale if anyone is interested. 1986 Chevy half ton.

hydraulic or mechanical clutch?

[trixter99]

I saw one of these transmissions in a 4wd diesel back in the eighties.

[AnotherWs6]

Originally Posted by Gregski

Tom I hear you, but I've been looking for one in California for over a year and I have only seen one other listed, and it just so happens it was near the same town of Bakersfield, ha ha and that one sold from under my nose for $650 plus $78.16 for shipping on eBay with a Buy It Now option it did come with a bellhousing, but no shifter and linkage.

Like I said earlier I am trying to justify the purchase by saying mine came with the shifter and linkage, bellhousing, pedal assembly (which I may not need) and crossmember.

Does the one for $700 from Car-Part.com ship for free or do you have to pay extra for shipping? Shipping transmissions across the country aint cheap. Fed Ex freight wanted $250 to ship one from Michigan to California.

A hundred bucks or so one way or another, who cares? If it were something sold on Amazon I could see being miffed at not getting a GREAT price, but these things aren't growing on trees still and most importantly - you have it at your home now.

[1968vetL-71]

It should be a hydraulic if it's an 86. I also have a set up complete hydraulic out of an 87 for sale. It's the harder to find 4 x 4 version though. It's even cast-iron.

[Ziklag]

Hydraulic. It also will come with the Hurst shifter and all things in the picture.

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by Ziklag

Hydraulic. It also will come with the Hurst shifter and all things in the picture.

very nice, how about the transmission crossmember, I ask because I have yet to see the one for that specific application

[1968vetL-71]

Thought this was very interesting when i pulled the pedal assy out of the 87 i got my set up from.

[Gregski]

some numbers for you after my swap

70 MPH at 2000 RPM

75 MPH at 2250 RPM

I am loving this new 833 overdrive transmission, now I have 4 useable gears not just 3

[Jake Wade]

Those cruise RPM's are perfect for my taste.

[hatzie]

These turn a half ton truck into a pretty civilized cruiser and they'll put up with some towing.
Something a lot of folks overlook is that you can ship bulky things on Greyhound for less than the courier services you just have to package them carefully. I've shipped doors and trunk lids on Greyhound after packaging them.
With a transmission or transfer case you need to make sure the oil is drained thoroughly and the box is reinforced enough that it doesn't poke through so you don't get filth on someone elses stuff.

[bluek5]

I saw this at a pick-n-pull today. I was wondering if it would be worth getting to save it from the crusher? The side cover is loose, so I suspect it has issues. It is from a 4x4 truck. The shifter is there also.

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by bluek5

I saw this at a pick-n-pull today. I was wondering if it would be worth getting to save it from the crusher? The side cover is loose, so I suspect it has issues. It is from a 4x4 truck. The shifter is there also.

Depends how much they want, if it was complete I would say get it, if it had the shifter and the linkage and tailshaft

See if it has the hydraulic clutch bell housing if so get the bell and the clutch all of it and I'll buy it off of you ha ha

Its a great trsnsmission I love my 2WD

[bluek5]

That's weird I thought I posted a picture of the transmission on the previous post. The trans and shifter could probably be had for $150 or less.