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shelby987 · 11-07-2005, 10:20 AM

I just wanted to double check, I was going through a parts book the other day, and they list a power steering box for 68-72 4x4 trucks......since the 67 is not included does that mean its not interchangable? I didn't see a seperate listing for a 67 only box, so I am confused

Joe67 · 11-07-2005, 10:27 AM

My '67 C10 panel (1/2 ton, 2wd) has factory pwr steering.

When I bought my new pwr steering gear for my project truck, it was listed as '1976 and prior'...

**pjmoreland** · 11-07-2005, 12:43 PM

Some '67 frames don't have a dimple in the chassis rail to clear a bump on the back of the power steering box. My old '67 did have the dimple, so maybe yours does too. Some board members with '67 trucks have said they made a dimple by heating up the frame and by forming a dimple with a hammer.

67chevemall · 11-07-2005, 01:11 PM

If it ain't there smash it!

shelby987 · 11-07-2005, 01:19 PM

sorry, I should clear something up, the box is a 67, and it will be going on a 70 frame....so if I am reading everything correctly, I should be set...

**John Fabris** · 11-07-2005, 01:43 PM

Early 67 has a ram style power steering setup (like the corvettes), later 67 have the same style power steering as 68-87.

So, if you have a power steering gearbox, it will work. (The early ram style still uses the manual steering gearbox)

Coleman · 11-07-2005, 01:59 PM

My 68 k20 project has no dimples on the frame which leads me to believe I have a 67 frame under this truck. Anyway, there is an aftermarket kit, 2 plates that will bolt up on this frame (flat, no dimples), you only have to drill one extra hole. Don't be putting any heat on the frame in this area, it's a popular place to crack the frame. Another thing is your steering column. Mine is straight, a solid shaft with no joints all the way up to the steering wheel. You have to make sure everything is lined up perfect because you have very little play. You'll also have to replace your rag joint because the new steering gear spline will probably be different. I was able to get everything working but the drag link is a little suspect, but it does work.

Longhorn Man · 11-07-2005, 03:34 PM

some 68's were made without the dimple, I've never seen a 67 personally that had the dimple.
On a 2 wheel drive, heating it is not really an issue, but the 4x4 trucks are known for cracking in that area.
The spacer kit that is mentioned is not really a good idea, it throws the geometry off and can cause real fast wear on the gear box.

Joe67 · 11-07-2005, 03:56 PM

I believe my '67 C10 panel has the dimple, I can confirm this later today

qksilver · 11-07-2005, 09:05 PM

I have never seen a 67 with a dimple, I have had a few. Plus I have 2- 68 4X4,s and a 2X4 68 burb without dimples.
The adapter plate throws off the geometry of the 2 wheel drive front end. To get it back you have to space the idler arm out the same distance PLUS the cross bar which the tie rods mount to widen a similiar amount.
What I have done on one is to notch the frame and made a reinforcing plate to go inside the frame.
One one of my 4x4's and I will get around to doing the others is I made a plate for the outside of the frame and one for the inside of the frame to mount the P/S box. The outside brace has the notch so it spaces the box out from the frame. I welded both plates to reinforce the frame, then made a bracket to go from the inside frame 2 forward box bolts to the front cross member.
44's and a red neck attitude four wheeling hasn't cracked the frame yet!
On 4X4 spacing out the box from the frame doesn't mess with anything.
My 4 cents worth........the advice is worth what you paid for it!
Steve

Joe67 · 11-07-2005, 09:07 PM

Yep, my 67 C10 Panel is dimpled for the Power Steering

It's dark out. I can take better pics tomorrow

These two pics are HUGE.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/joelop.../67dimple1.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/joelop.../67dimple2.jpg

*FUNMUDDER* · 11-07-2005, 09:12 PM

Do you have to remover the front fender to dimple the frame???????? Where exactly is this dimple?????????

kevncar · 11-08-2005, 05:07 AM

Mine's a 67 according to the VIN# CS147Z136220 and I think it has the dimple everyone is talking about. Will any power steering box from a 1976 and earlier 1/2 ton work?

shifty · 11-08-2005, 11:59 AM

Here is a pronounced picture of the dimle from my '68

11-07-2005, 10:20 AM	#1
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	67 power steering box I just wanted to double check, I was going through a parts book the other day, and they list a power steering box for 68-72 4x4 trucks......since the 67 is not included does that mean its not interchangable? I didn't see a seperate listing for a 67 only box, so I am confused

11-07-2005, 10:27 AM	#2
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,733	Re: 67 power steering box My '67 C10 panel (1/2 ton, 2wd) has factory pwr steering. When I bought my new pwr steering gear for my project truck, it was listed as '1976 and prior'... __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member Last edited by Joe67; 11-07-2005 at 10:29 AM.

11-07-2005, 12:43 PM	#3
pjmoreland Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 6,066	Re: 67 power steering box Some '67 frames don't have a dimple in the chassis rail to clear a bump on the back of the power steering box. My old '67 did have the dimple, so maybe yours does too. Some board members with '67 trucks have said they made a dimple by heating up the frame and by forming a dimple with a hammer.

11-07-2005, 01:11 PM	#4
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	Re: 67 power steering box If it ain't there smash it! __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

11-07-2005, 01:19 PM	#5
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Re: 67 power steering box sorry, I should clear something up, the box is a 67, and it will be going on a 70 frame....so if I am reading everything correctly, I should be set...

11-07-2005, 01:43 PM	#6
John Fabris TOTY 2006 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Magalia CA USA Posts: 2,270	Re: 67 power steering box Early 67 has a ram style power steering setup (like the corvettes), later 67 have the same style power steering as 68-87. So, if you have a power steering gearbox, it will work. (The early ram style still uses the manual steering gearbox) __________________ John Fabris 67 C10 SWB

11-07-2005, 01:59 PM	#7
Coleman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 50	Re: 67 power steering box My 68 k20 project has no dimples on the frame which leads me to believe I have a 67 frame under this truck. Anyway, there is an aftermarket kit, 2 plates that will bolt up on this frame (flat, no dimples), you only have to drill one extra hole. Don't be putting any heat on the frame in this area, it's a popular place to crack the frame. Another thing is your steering column. Mine is straight, a solid shaft with no joints all the way up to the steering wheel. You have to make sure everything is lined up perfect because you have very little play. You'll also have to replace your rag joint because the new steering gear spline will probably be different. I was able to get everything working but the drag link is a little suspect, but it does work.

11-07-2005, 03:34 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 67 power steering box some 68's were made without the dimple, I've never seen a 67 personally that had the dimple. On a 2 wheel drive, heating it is not really an issue, but the 4x4 trucks are known for cracking in that area. The spacer kit that is mentioned is not really a good idea, it throws the geometry off and can cause real fast wear on the gear box.

11-07-2005, 03:56 PM	#9
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,733	Re: 67 power steering box I believe my '67 C10 panel has the dimple, I can confirm this later today __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

11-07-2005, 09:05 PM	#10
qksilver Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern Pines NC Posts: 3,853	Re: 67 power steering box I have never seen a 67 with a dimple, I have had a few. Plus I have 2- 68 4X4,s and a 2X4 68 burb without dimples. The adapter plate throws off the geometry of the 2 wheel drive front end. To get it back you have to space the idler arm out the same distance PLUS the cross bar which the tie rods mount to widen a similiar amount. What I have done on one is to notch the frame and made a reinforcing plate to go inside the frame. One one of my 4x4's and I will get around to doing the others is I made a plate for the outside of the frame and one for the inside of the frame to mount the P/S box. The outside brace has the notch so it spaces the box out from the frame. I welded both plates to reinforce the frame, then made a bracket to go from the inside frame 2 forward box bolts to the front cross member. 44's and a red neck attitude four wheeling hasn't cracked the frame yet! On 4X4 spacing out the box from the frame doesn't mess with anything. My 4 cents worth........the advice is worth what you paid for it! Steve

11-07-2005, 09:07 PM	#11
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,733	Re: 67 power steering box Yep, my 67 C10 Panel is dimpled for the Power Steering It's dark out. I can take better pics tomorrow These two pics are HUGE. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/joelop.../67dimple1.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/joelop.../67dimple2.jpg __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member Last edited by Joe67; 11-07-2005 at 09:24 PM.

11-07-2005, 09:12 PM	#12
FUNMUDDER Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 427	Re: 67 power steering box Do you have to remover the front fender to dimple the frame???????? Where exactly is this dimple?????????

11-08-2005, 05:07 AM	#13
kevncar Active Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atwater, CA Posts: 259	Re: 67 power steering box Mine's a 67 according to the VIN# CS147Z136220 and I think it has the dimple everyone is talking about. Will any power steering box from a 1976 and earlier 1/2 ton work? __________________ Kevin 72 Chevelle 67 C10...454/TH400 Build Thread:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=193961

11-08-2005, 11:59 AM	#14
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: 67 power steering box Here is a pronounced picture of the dimle from my '68 __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.



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