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82c10 · 03-08-2006, 10:51 PM

what do you think of someone fiberglassing a hole in the floorboard, that don't have a welder, and they don't make a specific replacement piece for it, would it work very good to do it, need suggestions

Army_Dude · 03-08-2006, 10:59 PM

You experienced in glass? I don't really see a problem with it. Since it's in the floorboard, carpet will cover it right? How big of a hole are we talking?

82c10 · 03-08-2006, 11:09 PM

no, but am going to try it, no, carpet won't at the moment, but i will be puttin, a insulation type mat down from the home depot, 12"x 3" probably

Chevrolet4x4s · 03-08-2006, 11:24 PM

Why not rivet a patch over the hole then use the glass to seal up around it?
My $.02
Shane

82c10 · 03-08-2006, 11:26 PM

i don't have anything to form to rivet over it, take that back, i can't get the metal to bend like it needs to

C-10volvo · 03-08-2006, 11:29 PM

i thought there was some sort of adheasive that you could use for bonding metal to metal.

also, i dont know how well fiberglass will bond with metal, or at all. plastic and metal shrink and expand at different rates and will crack. it really isnt that hard to fab up something and have someone weld it.

Army_Dude · 03-08-2006, 11:44 PM

C-10 Volvo makes a good point. If it's easy to get to, and not that big, I'll bet a welding shop (or just a local guy with a welder) would'nt charge that much to patch it. If it's gonna be covered, JB Weld works well on bonding metal to metal. Some people hate it, but it works. But of course, then you'd be back in the position of fabbing the patch piece.

82c10 · 03-08-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Army_Dude

C-10 Volvo makes a good point. If it's easy to get to, and not that big, I'll bet a welding shop (or just a local guy with a welder) would'nt charge that much to patch it. If it's gonna be covered, JB Weld works well on bonding metal to metal. Some people hate it, but it works. But of course, then you'd be back in the position of fabbing the patch piece.

i believe in JB weld, we use it at the vo-tech sometimes, it works on alot of stuff

MylilBowTie · 03-09-2006, 12:04 AM

What are you trying to do? Maybe we can come up with better idea.

82c10 · 03-09-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MylilBowTie

What are you trying to do? Maybe we can come up with better idea.

patch about a 12"x 3" hole in the floorboard

Wild83C10 · 03-09-2006, 01:26 PM

You can buy a piece of thin sheetmetal from Home Depot or Lowes and you can form it with your hands or a hammer. Then rivet it to the floorboard. I used the same sheetmetal to cover the 4-spd hole in my transmission hump.

Slonaker · 03-09-2006, 03:50 PM

My dad was a big fan of repairing metal with fiberglass. I always found that odd, since he knew how to weld, and had the right equipment. Everything on the old car I inherited from him that was patched with fiberglass is falling apart. It all rusts out around the fiberglass patches.

I would try to find someone to weld it. If not, I would spend a little time forming a patch panel, rivet it into place, and seal it with seam sealer from a bodyshop supply place.

Slonaker

cutter61 · 03-09-2006, 06:36 PM

3m makes a wicked panel adhesive-once it's on it's on for good- alot of the new cars are "glued" together on the assembly line-bang the crap out of a couple pieces of sheetmetal till you get one right-kinda fun-good luck

82c10 · 03-09-2006, 07:21 PM

well, i though of getting a benzomatic propane torch, and heating it upto be easier to bend

us111 · 03-09-2006, 08:47 PM

i'm not even close to being a body man,,but alway's being short on money you learn a lot,,,a patch that size on the floorboard with a big hammer,piece of wood or whatever you can make something close to what you need,,maybe like mylilbowtie said,,little more info and these guy's can tell ya just about anything....

Corellian Corvette · 03-09-2006, 08:55 PM

My Dad is ALSO a fan of repairing metal with fiberglass. He too knows how to weld and does paint and bodywork when he feels like it.

The key to make sure you get rid of ALL the old rust before patching anything. If you have a 12x3 whole, make it a 12.5x3.5 hole that you're attaching to clean metal. Prep the metal with rust-proofing (POR15 or equivalent) and glass over the top. Make sure you follow-up with a good primer/sealer and a topcoat or you will rust again.

Even a welded-in patch panel will re-rust if not primered and top-coated.

Chevrolet4x4s · 03-09-2006, 09:03 PM

Got a photo of the hole so we can give more detailed advice?
Shane

**N2TRUX** · 03-10-2006, 12:57 AM

It doesn't matter if you use a sheet metal patch or glass over the hole it will still continue to rust. You need to cut the rust out, or clean and neutralize it with a rust conditioner like Metal Mort.

Once you have done that, it's not that hard to form a patch panel and weld, pop rivet, or panel bond it in place...

03-08-2006, 10:51 PM	#1
82c10 needin' money Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chickasha, Oklahoma Posts: 1,106	what do you think what do you think of someone fiberglassing a hole in the floorboard, that don't have a welder, and they don't make a specific replacement piece for it, would it work very good to do it, need suggestions __________________ *SWB Stands for Short Wide Bed*

03-08-2006, 10:59 PM	#2
Army_Dude Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 187	Re: what do you think You experienced in glass? I don't really see a problem with it. Since it's in the floorboard, carpet will cover it right? How big of a hole are we talking?

03-08-2006, 11:09 PM	#3
82c10 needin' money Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chickasha, Oklahoma Posts: 1,106	Re: what do you think no, but am going to try it, no, carpet won't at the moment, but i will be puttin, a insulation type mat down from the home depot, 12"x 3" probably __________________ *SWB Stands for Short Wide Bed*

03-08-2006, 11:24 PM	#4
Chevrolet4x4s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: WV Posts: 227	Re: what do you think Why not rivet a patch over the hole then use the glass to seal up around it? My $.02 Shane __________________ 1993 K1500 350 5 speed 1985 K10 Silverado Vortec 406 5 speed (in body shop) "I been drivin' this '85 pickup truck Them buddies of mine call it a bucket of rust She's a little beat up but she still runs like the wind Yeah, kinda like me I been banged and bruisedBeen around the block a time or two But I'm runnin' like new goin' places I never been No, I ain't broke I'm just broken in" 1963 Dodge Townwagon(its amazng what 30 years and zero miles will do to a vehicle ) Member#20327

03-08-2006, 11:26 PM	#5
82c10 needin' money Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chickasha, Oklahoma Posts: 1,106	Re: what do you think i don't have anything to form to rivet over it, take that back, i can't get the metal to bend like it needs to __________________ *SWB Stands for Short Wide Bed*

03-08-2006, 11:29 PM	#6
C-10volvo Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon Posts: 1,028	Re: what do you think i thought there was some sort of adheasive that you could use for bonding metal to metal. also, i dont know how well fiberglass will bond with metal, or at all. plastic and metal shrink and expand at different rates and will crack. it really isnt that hard to fab up something and have someone weld it. __________________ Ken Morgan For fun: 1964 Volvo 122 For slow: 1984 Chevrolet C-10 For everything else: 1997 BMW M3 Last edited by C-10volvo; 03-08-2006 at 11:32 PM.

03-08-2006, 11:44 PM	#7
Army_Dude Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 187	Re: what do you think C-10 Volvo makes a good point. If it's easy to get to, and not that big, I'll bet a welding shop (or just a local guy with a welder) would'nt charge that much to patch it. If it's gonna be covered, JB Weld works well on bonding metal to metal. Some people hate it, but it works. But of course, then you'd be back in the position of fabbing the patch piece.

03-09-2006, 12:04 AM	#9
MylilBowTie Right turn Clyde Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2,911	Re: what do you think What are you trying to do? Maybe we can come up with better idea. __________________ 1974 C25 LWB: 454 4bbl Carb / TH400 / 3.73 1992 Camaro RS 305 TBI

03-09-2006, 01:26 PM	#11
Wild83C10 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 910	Re: what do you think You can buy a piece of thin sheetmetal from Home Depot or Lowes and you can form it with your hands or a hammer. Then rivet it to the floorboard. I used the same sheetmetal to cover the 4-spd hole in my transmission hump. __________________ 83 C10 Stepside (SOLD, it was a blast!) 383 MASS-FLO EFI/TKO II 600/3.90 Posi 10 bolt S475 and C4 DM running, fine tuning turbo= Douchebag Racing: Runs Fine all the Time

03-09-2006, 03:50 PM	#12
Slonaker Insert Witty Text Here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,415	Re: what do you think My dad was a big fan of repairing metal with fiberglass. I always found that odd, since he knew how to weld, and had the right equipment. Everything on the old car I inherited from him that was patched with fiberglass is falling apart. It all rusts out around the fiberglass patches. I would try to find someone to weld it. If not, I would spend a little time forming a patch panel, rivet it into place, and seal it with seam sealer from a bodyshop supply place. Slonaker __________________ '86 Chevy C10 (Sold 04/19/13 ) Stock '01 Silverado

03-09-2006, 06:36 PM	#13
cutter61 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: niagara region Posts: 38	Re: what do you think 3m makes a wicked panel adhesive-once it's on it's on for good- alot of the new cars are "glued" together on the assembly line-bang the crap out of a couple pieces of sheetmetal till you get one right-kinda fun-good luck Attached Images __________________ If ya don't get at it when ya get to it,You won't get to it to get at it again.

03-09-2006, 07:21 PM	#14
82c10 needin' money Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chickasha, Oklahoma Posts: 1,106	Re: what do you think well, i though of getting a benzomatic propane torch, and heating it upto be easier to bend __________________ *SWB Stands for Short Wide Bed*

03-09-2006, 08:47 PM	#15
us111 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: ashland oh Posts: 660	Re: what do you think i'm not even close to being a body man,,but alway's being short on money you learn a lot,,,a patch that size on the floorboard with a big hammer,piece of wood or whatever you can make something close to what you need,,maybe like mylilbowtie said,,little more info and these guy's can tell ya just about anything....

03-09-2006, 08:55 PM	#16
Corellian Corvette Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 51	Re: what do you think My Dad is ALSO a fan of repairing metal with fiberglass. He too knows how to weld and does paint and bodywork when he feels like it. The key to make sure you get rid of ALL the old rust before patching anything. If you have a 12x3 whole, make it a 12.5x3.5 hole that you're attaching to clean metal. Prep the metal with rust-proofing (POR15 or equivalent) and glass over the top. Make sure you follow-up with a good primer/sealer and a topcoat or you will rust again. Even a welded-in patch panel will re-rust if not primered and top-coated.

03-09-2006, 09:03 PM	#17
Chevrolet4x4s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: WV Posts: 227	Re: what do you think Got a photo of the hole so we can give more detailed advice? Shane __________________ 1993 K1500 350 5 speed 1985 K10 Silverado Vortec 406 5 speed (in body shop) "I been drivin' this '85 pickup truck Them buddies of mine call it a bucket of rust She's a little beat up but she still runs like the wind Yeah, kinda like me I been banged and bruisedBeen around the block a time or two But I'm runnin' like new goin' places I never been No, I ain't broke I'm just broken in" 1963 Dodge Townwagon(its amazng what 30 years and zero miles will do to a vehicle ) Member#20327



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03-10-2006, 12:57 AM	#18
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Re: what do you think It doesn't matter if you use a sheet metal patch or glass over the hole it will still continue to rust. You need to cut the rust out, or clean and neutralize it with a rust conditioner like Metal Mort. Once you have done that, it's not that hard to form a patch panel and weld, pop rivet, or panel bond it in place... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

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