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GreenMystChevy · 05-01-2002, 07:35 PM

Well, just like it says, my tranny is pretty much done for. I was stopped at a light, put it into first, slowly let the clutch out, and nothing. Put it into reverse just to see and again nothing, it was like it was in neutral. Found out that 2nd and 3rd still work just fine, at least for now. I looked under it and the lever on the tranny is moving back and forth but it must not be moving anything inside the case.
So now I am looking for another tranny if anyone knows of one. I also need to know which tranny I have, I believe it is a saginaw 3sp but being that I know less that nothing about them I am not sure. It is a 3sp, used to be on the tree, converted to the floor in my '71 C-10. If anyone could help me out this would be great being that this is my daily driver and it is pretty hard to park in Seattle for school without reverse. thanks guys.

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'71 C-10
'70 Chevelle SS
Seattle, WA

69 longhorn · 05-01-2002, 07:43 PM

back in the mid to late 70s I had a 69 van 3 spd on column,with a 4 speed & Chrissy reverse........damn she was a wild thing!(not the van,the gal)...hehe

jmanz69 · 05-01-2002, 07:55 PM

If it's not shifting right, it could be your shift fork is busted. You could just get a junk yard trans and use the forks out of it. might even be able to use forks out of a 4 spd. I had a trans do that to me once, was stuck in 2nd gear. found I had broken all the forks and just happened I had done it when I was in 2nd gear.

Brad · 05-01-2002, 08:49 PM

I've got one if you need it-cheap. Let me know.

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WOU in Monmouth, Or
68 Camaro,250(No,I'm not putting in a 350!)
67,LWB,250(Again, I'm not putting in a 350!)
a work in progress
"Praise The Lowered"

GreenMystChevy · 05-01-2002, 11:52 PM

Are you saying that in a manual transmission, there are a couple of shift forks and the one that shifts for 2nd and 3rd is working? I just do not understand exactly what is inside this baby that might break. I don't want to tear into it until I need to because I still need it everyday for work and will try and do it all in one weekend. Like that'll happen.

Brad, do you mean a cheap tranny or shift fork? Either way, let me know.

Thanks for the help guys.

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'71 C-10
'70 Chevelle SS
Seattle, WA

JJR · 05-02-2002, 06:17 AM

For ID purposes: Muncie has 2 bolts top of side cover; Saginaw has 3 bolts top of side cover; Saginaw has 7 bolts on side cover

Brad · 05-02-2002, 11:08 AM

-tranny. I think it's off a 70 or 71 with V8. Email me for more info

jmanz69 · 05-02-2002, 05:19 PM

Yes, I do mean that all that could be wrong is the little fork inside. The gears are always meshing, so if you lost a gear you would most likely (not always) lose the rest since the bad peices would get run through the others. If you drain the iol out and pop the side cover there are 3 shift forks (that might fly out at you). If one is too worn or broke, that wouldn't let you shift. If so, all you would have to do id replace that one, refill with oil and go. If you did lose some teeth or a bearing, then just get another one and swap. I am going to use a Saginaw 4 spd and am also going to have a spare just in case. I talked to a trans shop about cost on rebuild, and he told me like $150. Now I think that might be a little too low, but still way better that having a auto rebuilt. You should be able to get one pretty cheap used. Good luck

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69 swb - in the process of being torn down and born again!

GreenMystChevy · 05-02-2002, 05:34 PM

Well, I just talked to a guy who said that he thinks the only problem might be the bolt that the shifter arm is attached to could be coming out and that could cause it. He says that is pretty common and that all that I would have to do is get under there and tighten it.
The guy who I bought this truck did nothing to it except drive it for 200k miles and so he hasn't touched a thing. Hopefully I can get home and tighten this bolt and it will solve all of my problems. If only working on cars were actually that easy. I love it.
More suggestions are always welcome, especially if someone wants to give me a Muncie 4sp, I sure wouldn't complain.

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'71 C-10
'70 Chevelle SS
Seattle, WA

GreenMystChevy · 05-02-2002, 10:43 PM

Good news! The tranny is back up and running. The guy that I talked to was right, it was the bolt that held the linkage arm onto the tranny. I feel like an idiot, I didn't even check the tightness of the bolts, the very first thing that I should have checked. Oh well, at least it's working.

And thanks to Brad, this guy was willing to help me out more than I could have asked for! Great guy to have on here.
Thanks for all your guy's help.

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'71 C-10
'70 Chevelle SS
Seattle, WA

nroden · 05-02-2002, 11:41 PM

I'm glad to hear that it all has a happy ending!!!

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Nick Rodenberg
Wellington, MO
http://nickrod.port5.com
You can click on "My 72 Chevy Truck"
I have a 72 Cheyenne 10 with a V8 350 and a TH-350 auto-tranny.
Ochre/White/Ochre
Runs well... working on body.
Plan to get painted weekend before memorial day weekend.
Planned to be done March 7 when I turned 16. Didn't happen. Chose to do better job and be behind schedule instead of 1/2 doing it and it looking like junk.

nroden · 05-02-2002, 11:41 PM

I'm glad to hear that it all has a happy ending!!!

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Nick Rodenberg
Wellington, MO
http://nickrod.port5.com
You can click on "My 72 Chevy Truck"
I have a 72 Cheyenne 10 with a V8 350 and a TH-350 auto-tranny.
Ochre/White/Ochre
Runs well... working on body.
Plan to get painted weekend before memorial day weekend.
Planned to be done March 7 when I turned 16. Didn't happen. Chose to do better job and be behind schedule instead of 1/2 doing it and it looking like junk.

05-01-2002, 07:35 PM	#1
GreenMystChevy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 513	My tranny just went kaput! Well, just like it says, my tranny is pretty much done for. I was stopped at a light, put it into first, slowly let the clutch out, and nothing. Put it into reverse just to see and again nothing, it was like it was in neutral. Found out that 2nd and 3rd still work just fine, at least for now. I looked under it and the lever on the tranny is moving back and forth but it must not be moving anything inside the case. So now I am looking for another tranny if anyone knows of one. I also need to know which tranny I have, I believe it is a saginaw 3sp but being that I know less that nothing about them I am not sure. It is a 3sp, used to be on the tree, converted to the floor in my '71 C-10. If anyone could help me out this would be great being that this is my daily driver and it is pretty hard to park in Seattle for school without reverse. thanks guys. ------------------ '71 C-10 '70 Chevelle SS Seattle, WA __________________ Jeremy '71 C-10 '72 GMC K2500 '72 Nova (Dad's) '70 Chevelle SS '55 Sedan Delivery Attempting to build up this here 4x4...make her real tall and purty...well, maybe just tall

05-01-2002, 07:43 PM	#2
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	back in the mid to late 70s I had a 69 van 3 spd on column,with a 4 speed & Chrissy reverse........damn she was a wild thing!(not the van,the gal)...hehe __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

05-01-2002, 08:49 PM	#4
Brad Out of the carpool lane. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Clark Co, WA Posts: 5,672	I've got one if you need it-cheap. Let me know. ------------------ WOU in Monmouth, Or 68 Camaro,250(No,I'm not putting in a 350!) 67,LWB,250(Again, I'm not putting in a 350!) a work in progress "Praise The Lowered" __________________ 1968 C-10 SWB, 5.7 Vortec/700R4/3.73 posi, Torch Red 1968 Camaro, 250/Powerglide, all original (No, I'm not gonna drop a 350 in it!...Jeez!) 2000 Honda VFR in the faster yellow! 2008 Husqvarna TE-610 1967 C-10 SWB 'Six Appeal'-Gone but not forgotten...

05-01-2002, 11:52 PM	#5
GreenMystChevy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 513	Are you saying that in a manual transmission, there are a couple of shift forks and the one that shifts for 2nd and 3rd is working? I just do not understand exactly what is inside this baby that might break. I don't want to tear into it until I need to because I still need it everyday for work and will try and do it all in one weekend. Like that'll happen. Brad, do you mean a cheap tranny or shift fork? Either way, let me know. Thanks for the help guys. ------------------ '71 C-10 '70 Chevelle SS Seattle, WA __________________ Jeremy '71 C-10 '72 GMC K2500 '72 Nova (Dad's) '70 Chevelle SS '55 Sedan Delivery Attempting to build up this here 4x4...make her real tall and purty...well, maybe just tall

05-02-2002, 06:17 AM	#6
JJR Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 746	For ID purposes: Muncie has 2 bolts top of side cover; Saginaw has 3 bolts top of side cover; Saginaw has 7 bolts on side cover __________________ FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Second Owner 70 C-10 Second Owner 93 GMC C1500 Third Owner 99 C2500 Crew Cab Short Bed

05-01-2002, 07:55 PM	#3
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	If it's not shifting right, it could be your shift fork is busted. You could just get a junk yard trans and use the forks out of it. might even be able to use forks out of a 4 spd. I had a trans do that to me once, was stuck in 2nd gear. found I had broken all the forks and just happened I had done it when I was in 2nd gear.

05-02-2002, 11:08 AM	#7
Brad Out of the carpool lane. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Clark Co, WA Posts: 5,672	-tranny. I think it's off a 70 or 71 with V8. Email me for more info __________________ 1968 C-10 SWB, 5.7 Vortec/700R4/3.73 posi, Torch Red 1968 Camaro, 250/Powerglide, all original (No, I'm not gonna drop a 350 in it!...Jeez!) 2000 Honda VFR in the faster yellow! 2008 Husqvarna TE-610 1967 C-10 SWB 'Six Appeal'-Gone but not forgotten...

05-02-2002, 05:19 PM	#8
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	Yes, I do mean that all that could be wrong is the little fork inside. The gears are always meshing, so if you lost a gear you would most likely (not always) lose the rest since the bad peices would get run through the others. If you drain the iol out and pop the side cover there are 3 shift forks (that might fly out at you). If one is too worn or broke, that wouldn't let you shift. If so, all you would have to do id replace that one, refill with oil and go. If you did lose some teeth or a bearing, then just get another one and swap. I am going to use a Saginaw 4 spd and am also going to have a spare just in case. I talked to a trans shop about cost on rebuild, and he told me like $150. Now I think that might be a little too low, but still way better that having a auto rebuilt. You should be able to get one pretty cheap used. Good luck ------------------ 69 swb - in the process of being torn down and born again!

05-02-2002, 05:34 PM	#9
GreenMystChevy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 513	Well, I just talked to a guy who said that he thinks the only problem might be the bolt that the shifter arm is attached to could be coming out and that could cause it. He says that is pretty common and that all that I would have to do is get under there and tighten it. The guy who I bought this truck did nothing to it except drive it for 200k miles and so he hasn't touched a thing. Hopefully I can get home and tighten this bolt and it will solve all of my problems. If only working on cars were actually that easy. I love it. More suggestions are always welcome, especially if someone wants to give me a Muncie 4sp, I sure wouldn't complain. ------------------ '71 C-10 '70 Chevelle SS Seattle, WA __________________ Jeremy '71 C-10 '72 GMC K2500 '72 Nova (Dad's) '70 Chevelle SS '55 Sedan Delivery Attempting to build up this here 4x4...make her real tall and purty...well, maybe just tall

05-02-2002, 10:43 PM	#10
GreenMystChevy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 513	Good news! The tranny is back up and running. The guy that I talked to was right, it was the bolt that held the linkage arm onto the tranny. I feel like an idiot, I didn't even check the tightness of the bolts, the very first thing that I should have checked. Oh well, at least it's working. And thanks to Brad, this guy was willing to help me out more than I could have asked for! Great guy to have on here. Thanks for all your guy's help. ------------------ '71 C-10 '70 Chevelle SS Seattle, WA __________________ Jeremy '71 C-10 '72 GMC K2500 '72 Nova (Dad's) '70 Chevelle SS '55 Sedan Delivery Attempting to build up this here 4x4...make her real tall and purty...well, maybe just tall

05-02-2002, 11:41 PM	#11
nroden Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,098	I'm glad to hear that it all has a happy ending!!! ------------------ Nick Rodenberg Wellington, MO http://nickrod.port5.com You can click on "My 72 Chevy Truck" I have a 72 Cheyenne 10 with a V8 350 and a TH-350 auto-tranny. Ochre/White/Ochre Runs well... working on body. Plan to get painted weekend before memorial day weekend. Planned to be done March 7 when I turned 16. Didn't happen. Chose to do better job and be behind schedule instead of 1/2 doing it and it looking like junk. __________________ Nick Rodenberg 72 Cheyenne 10 V8 350/TH350 white/ochre/white/ochre, ochre/saddle interior Retired and in the dry... still runs. I now drive Red '01 Ford Focus... better MPG!!!



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