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smoked68 · 12-31-2006, 07:16 PM

This maybe a stupid question but I always see trucks and cars that are lowered so much that the front fender covers the front tire a couple of inches and I know some of them arent bagged. I would like mine to go that much but I think it would prob. rub. How low can you go until the tire rubs in a turn. my tires are 275 45 20 and there is about 2" from the outside of the tire to the inside of the fender. I would like to make it look like this pic or very close but is it possible to do it without bags? The lowered cars look like they would rub in turns but I guess they don't...thanks, corey

jimmydean · 12-31-2006, 07:52 PM

I would think that a truck that low on springs would ride like a brick. I could be wrong, but with that little travel, it can't be plush.

Without doing a lot of work to lower the body, I don't know that you can get that low and still be safe to drive.

smoked68 · 12-31-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmydean

I would think that a truck that low on springs would ride like a brick. I could be wrong, but with that little travel, it can't be plush.

Without doing a lot of work to lower the body, I don't know that you can get that low and still be safe to drive.

I just want it as close as possible to the pic. I know that I can drop it 8" in the back and 5.5-6 with springs, spindles, and blocks. Just worried about tire clearance and also driveability. Its going to be a somewhat daily driver so I do want a good suspension.

jimmydean · 12-31-2006, 08:28 PM

Anything more than a 4.5" drop in the front and your ride is out the window. That's why I went with bags in the first place. My truck isn't that low, but it will ride real nice.

smoked68 · 12-31-2006, 08:36 PM

i had bags and sold them so I didnt have to mess with hooking them up with compressor and all that crap + a guy told me they would charge $1000 to install. wish i would have kept them now...

smoked68 · 12-31-2006, 08:37 PM

I actually had the rear bags mounted and holding air...all that was left was the front bags and the complicated stuff. had everything...4 bags, 2 3gal tanks, 2 compressors, all fittings, hoses...etc

70stroker · 01-08-2007, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmydean

Anything more than a 4.5" drop in the front and your ride is out the window. That's why I went with bags in the first place. My truck isn't that low, but it will ride real nice.

My truck is lowered 5.5 in the front and about 6 in the rear and it doesnt ride bad at all. the middle of the bumper sits 6.5 inchs of the ground.

just my experience.

jimmydean · 01-08-2007, 02:13 AM

But can you haul 18 bails of hay at that height? The whole reason I bought a truck was because I needed a truck. I installed the air ride to make it handle better, haul better, and I can still drop it and cruise when I'm not working.

67Fleet · 01-08-2007, 06:25 PM

The truck in the pic looks like it is bagged. To achieve what you're after, it depends on the offset of your wheels for one. A 275/45/20 tire is a LOT of meat, it's a pretty wide tire. Is it possible? Sure, how much cutting are you willing to do? You'll most likely have to remove your inner fenders at the very least. And as said, you won't have much suspension travel left if any. When my truck is aired out I can barely turn the front before rubbing on the outer fenders and I'm running a 255/35/20 tire w/ a 8" wide wheel w/ 5.25" backspacing. Here's a pic for reference before I started cutting it up to get lower:

smoked68 · 01-08-2007, 06:35 PM

wow...that truck looks sweet. that is basically what I would love mine to look like...bags in the future it looks like.

jimmydean · 01-08-2007, 06:38 PM

67Fleet, is that picture rolling when aired out? Or do you have just a touch of air to get you off the inner fenders?

I have plenty of clearance when aired out right now, but it would be a harsh ride. Not too bad for a parade speed cruise though.

67Fleet · 01-08-2007, 07:16 PM

it's aired out all the way. It rolls in a straight line like that, at low speeds only.

smoked68 · 01-08-2007, 07:25 PM

The truck at the very top is actually mine. It is a pic that some one chopped for me and I thought it looked awesome.

67Fleet · 01-08-2007, 08:54 PM

wow, that's a pretty darn good photoshop!

12-31-2006, 07:16 PM	#1
smoked68 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 421	lowering question This maybe a stupid question but I always see trucks and cars that are lowered so much that the front fender covers the front tire a couple of inches and I know some of them arent bagged. I would like mine to go that much but I think it would prob. rub. How low can you go until the tire rubs in a turn. my tires are 275 45 20 and there is about 2" from the outside of the tire to the inside of the fender. I would like to make it look like this pic or very close but is it possible to do it without bags? The lowered cars look like they would rub in turns but I guess they don't...thanks, corey __________________ 1968 chevy shortbed, Dark Shadow Gray 4 bolt 383 Stroker,Weiand Super Charger, disc brakes, 9 inch, 391 gear, 20" Eagle wheels, muncie 4 speed/ Hurst shifter, 4/7 drop, Hedman midlengths, 3 inch exhaust w/ 2 chamber flows. 1966 Mustang with 306 roller, c-4, 9 inch Detroit locker rear. 1965 Fastback Mustang w/347 stroker, top loader 4spd, 9 inch detroit locker. 1966 Mustang coup, 306 roller, c4, 9 inch. 65 Cobra, 427, T6oo, 9inch, of course. First gen Hayabusa, airbox mod and running 2 exhaust cams.. Zoom Zoom Zoom Last edited by smoked68; 12-31-2006 at 07:17 PM. Reason: add

12-31-2006, 07:52 PM	#2
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: lowering question I would think that a truck that low on springs would ride like a brick. I could be wrong, but with that little travel, it can't be plush. Without doing a lot of work to lower the body, I don't know that you can get that low and still be safe to drive.

12-31-2006, 08:28 PM	#4
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: lowering question Anything more than a 4.5" drop in the front and your ride is out the window. That's why I went with bags in the first place. My truck isn't that low, but it will ride real nice.

12-31-2006, 08:36 PM	#5
smoked68 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 421	Re: lowering question i had bags and sold them so I didnt have to mess with hooking them up with compressor and all that crap + a guy told me they would charge $1000 to install. wish i would have kept them now... __________________ 1968 chevy shortbed, Dark Shadow Gray 4 bolt 383 Stroker,Weiand Super Charger, disc brakes, 9 inch, 391 gear, 20" Eagle wheels, muncie 4 speed/ Hurst shifter, 4/7 drop, Hedman midlengths, 3 inch exhaust w/ 2 chamber flows. 1966 Mustang with 306 roller, c-4, 9 inch Detroit locker rear. 1965 Fastback Mustang w/347 stroker, top loader 4spd, 9 inch detroit locker. 1966 Mustang coup, 306 roller, c4, 9 inch. 65 Cobra, 427, T6oo, 9inch, of course. First gen Hayabusa, airbox mod and running 2 exhaust cams.. Zoom Zoom Zoom

12-31-2006, 08:37 PM	#6
smoked68 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 421	Re: lowering question I actually had the rear bags mounted and holding air...all that was left was the front bags and the complicated stuff. had everything...4 bags, 2 3gal tanks, 2 compressors, all fittings, hoses...etc __________________ 1968 chevy shortbed, Dark Shadow Gray 4 bolt 383 Stroker,Weiand Super Charger, disc brakes, 9 inch, 391 gear, 20" Eagle wheels, muncie 4 speed/ Hurst shifter, 4/7 drop, Hedman midlengths, 3 inch exhaust w/ 2 chamber flows. 1966 Mustang with 306 roller, c-4, 9 inch Detroit locker rear. 1965 Fastback Mustang w/347 stroker, top loader 4spd, 9 inch detroit locker. 1966 Mustang coup, 306 roller, c4, 9 inch. 65 Cobra, 427, T6oo, 9inch, of course. First gen Hayabusa, airbox mod and running 2 exhaust cams.. Zoom Zoom Zoom Last edited by smoked68; 12-31-2006 at 08:39 PM. Reason: add

01-08-2007, 02:13 AM	#8
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: lowering question But can you haul 18 bails of hay at that height? The whole reason I bought a truck was because I needed a truck. I installed the air ride to make it handle better, haul better, and I can still drop it and cruise when I'm not working.

01-08-2007, 06:25 PM	#9
67Fleet Outlandish Trends - FL Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,396	Re: lowering question The truck in the pic looks like it is bagged. To achieve what you're after, it depends on the offset of your wheels for one. A 275/45/20 tire is a LOT of meat, it's a pretty wide tire. Is it possible? Sure, how much cutting are you willing to do? You'll most likely have to remove your inner fenders at the very least. And as said, you won't have much suspension travel left if any. When my truck is aired out I can barely turn the front before rubbing on the outer fenders and I'm running a 255/35/20 tire w/ a 8" wide wheel w/ 5.25" backspacing. Here's a pic for reference before I started cutting it up to get lower: __________________ -Bret 67 short-fleet sold!

01-08-2007, 06:35 PM	#10
smoked68 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 421	Re: lowering question wow...that truck looks sweet. that is basically what I would love mine to look like...bags in the future it looks like. __________________ 1968 chevy shortbed, Dark Shadow Gray 4 bolt 383 Stroker,Weiand Super Charger, disc brakes, 9 inch, 391 gear, 20" Eagle wheels, muncie 4 speed/ Hurst shifter, 4/7 drop, Hedman midlengths, 3 inch exhaust w/ 2 chamber flows. 1966 Mustang with 306 roller, c-4, 9 inch Detroit locker rear. 1965 Fastback Mustang w/347 stroker, top loader 4spd, 9 inch detroit locker. 1966 Mustang coup, 306 roller, c4, 9 inch. 65 Cobra, 427, T6oo, 9inch, of course. First gen Hayabusa, airbox mod and running 2 exhaust cams.. Zoom Zoom Zoom

01-08-2007, 06:38 PM	#11
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: lowering question 67Fleet, is that picture rolling when aired out? Or do you have just a touch of air to get you off the inner fenders? I have plenty of clearance when aired out right now, but it would be a harsh ride. Not too bad for a parade speed cruise though.

01-08-2007, 07:16 PM	#12
67Fleet Outlandish Trends - FL Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,396	Re: lowering question it's aired out all the way. It rolls in a straight line like that, at low speeds only. __________________ -Bret 67 short-fleet sold!

01-08-2007, 07:25 PM	#13
smoked68 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 421	Re: lowering question The truck at the very top is actually mine. It is a pic that some one chopped for me and I thought it looked awesome. __________________ 1968 chevy shortbed, Dark Shadow Gray 4 bolt 383 Stroker,Weiand Super Charger, disc brakes, 9 inch, 391 gear, 20" Eagle wheels, muncie 4 speed/ Hurst shifter, 4/7 drop, Hedman midlengths, 3 inch exhaust w/ 2 chamber flows. 1966 Mustang with 306 roller, c-4, 9 inch Detroit locker rear. 1965 Fastback Mustang w/347 stroker, top loader 4spd, 9 inch detroit locker. 1966 Mustang coup, 306 roller, c4, 9 inch. 65 Cobra, 427, T6oo, 9inch, of course. First gen Hayabusa, airbox mod and running 2 exhaust cams.. Zoom Zoom Zoom

01-08-2007, 08:54 PM	#14
67Fleet Outlandish Trends - FL Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,396	Re: lowering question wow, that's a pretty darn good photoshop! __________________ -Bret 67 short-fleet sold!



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