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hewlett2002000 · 03-11-2007, 01:01 AM

well i want to build a 400-500 hp engine for my truck. im thinking on what engine to start from. i have a 283 sittin here but i dont want to start with that. im thinking bout another 350. what do yall think? ive never built one and i want to, but while im building it i have to be able to drive my truck. so i need another engine. was also thinking of getting a 327 and putting a 283 crank in and making a 302, anybody here ever done that? let me know what ya thank.
thanks,
John

hewlett2002000 · 03-11-2007, 01:02 AM

o and by the way, i have a budget of between $1000 and $2000.

hewlett2002000 · 03-11-2007, 02:52 AM

you think i could get what i want from this setup? please let me know.

Chevy 350 69-80
mainbrgs: std
pistons: .030
rings: .030
rodbrgs: std
FrostPlugs: Brass
CloyesDoubleRollerTiming: Cloyes True Roller # 9-1100SP
Gaskets: FelPro # KS2600 + $22.70
HighVolume: Oil pump (must use oil pump shaft with steel pin sleeve)
Camshaft: Comp 2000-6000 RPM # 12-212-2 280/280 adv duration .480/.480 lift Valve Springs must be changed, Not Computer Compatible
CleviteBrgs: Clevite Brgs
HypereutecticPistons: Hypereutectic Pistons (flattop) # H345NP
MolyRings: moly + $11.74
OilPumpShaft: High Volume Oil pump shaft (must be used with high volume pump)
CompLifters: Comp Lifters
ConnectingRods: Set of 8 Connecting Rods with ARP Bolts, CR1417X
NewCrank: Scat New Crankshaft Cast/Steel #910442 2 Piece rear main

edlebrock performer intake and edlebrock 600 carb.

heads still undecided. was thinking scat or world products sportsman II

let me know what ya think.

*zeitlerusmc* · 03-11-2007, 04:45 AM

isn't that too small of a carb to feed that big cam? comp should also tell you what would be the ideal head and carb setup to run with that cam. I would look more into using some type of kit from one of the big name brands like an edlebrock performer kit which includes cam, heads, intake. or go one up to edlebrocks torker series. 400-500hp is no simple task especially under 2000 bucks I don't think its very likely considering your stock crate motor runs 1500 and only puts out around 260hp-300ft of torque. but hey good luck!

**ChiefRocka** · 03-11-2007, 07:27 AM

Thats a good cam choice....the same one I went with for my engine. However, I'm not looking to get high HP, just a healthy good sounding engine. I am running an air-gap 1500RPM-up intake, 202 camels, and also a 600 carb. Unfortunatly, as mentioned before on my project thread, my 'Kragen350" that came in my truck has low compression 'smog' pistons in it

. I really wanted to install new pistons, but I'm still trying to keep this a low-budget build...and I really don't have the time.

For what you want to do, you probably want to run a bigger carb., and definately spend some money on the heads.

John

*Billla* · 03-11-2007, 12:13 PM

Well...you're certainly not going to get this within a 1-2K budget! Figure $500+ for machine work alone; $750 if you're not going to do the final assembly.

It's possible to do a cheapo performance rebuild on a decent 350 core and get up above 350 HP or so...but IMHO it's not possible to get a 400+ HP build in that budget range unless you can port your own heads.

BTW, high-volume pumps are NOT DESIREABLE for SBCs if assembled with proper clearances.

hewlett2002000 · 03-12-2007, 05:07 AM

thanks for all the help. ive figured out what im going to do. im going to build a 383 stroker motor. i figure if im gonna do it ill do it the way i want. im 17 and make around $250 a week, so it may take me a while but ill get it done. in the meantime i got the engine thats in my truck now running good so i have something to drive while im building the engine i want. reason i want a 383 is because ive heard they have real good bottom end torque. anyways thanks again for all the help. if you have any info i will need please let me know.
thanks,
John

Jonboy · 03-12-2007, 09:40 AM

You should check with Blaine's in Dallas. They have a 383 engine that is pretty reasonable, and they will assemble the bottom end for you as well.

03-11-2007, 01:01 AM	#1
hewlett2002000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cleveland, Tx Posts: 1,619	engine build up..... well i want to build a 400-500 hp engine for my truck. im thinking on what engine to start from. i have a 283 sittin here but i dont want to start with that. im thinking bout another 350. what do yall think? ive never built one and i want to, but while im building it i have to be able to drive my truck. so i need another engine. was also thinking of getting a 327 and putting a 283 crank in and making a 302, anybody here ever done that? let me know what ya thank. thanks, John __________________ Respect: 1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. 2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem. 3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation. When you fail to show consideration to others values you are showing disrespect.

03-11-2007, 01:02 AM	#2
hewlett2002000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cleveland, Tx Posts: 1,619	Re: engine build up..... o and by the way, i have a budget of between $1000 and $2000. __________________ Respect: 1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. 2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem. 3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation. When you fail to show consideration to others values you are showing disrespect.

03-11-2007, 02:52 AM	#3
hewlett2002000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cleveland, Tx Posts: 1,619	Re: engine build up..... you think i could get what i want from this setup? please let me know. Chevy 350 69-80 mainbrgs: std pistons: .030 rings: .030 rodbrgs: std FrostPlugs: Brass CloyesDoubleRollerTiming: Cloyes True Roller # 9-1100SP Gaskets: FelPro # KS2600 + $22.70 HighVolume: Oil pump (must use oil pump shaft with steel pin sleeve) Camshaft: Comp 2000-6000 RPM # 12-212-2 280/280 adv duration .480/.480 lift Valve Springs must be changed, Not Computer Compatible CleviteBrgs: Clevite Brgs HypereutecticPistons: Hypereutectic Pistons (flattop) # H345NP MolyRings: moly + $11.74 OilPumpShaft: High Volume Oil pump shaft (must be used with high volume pump) CompLifters: Comp Lifters ConnectingRods: Set of 8 Connecting Rods with ARP Bolts, CR1417X NewCrank: Scat New Crankshaft Cast/Steel #910442 2 Piece rear main edlebrock performer intake and edlebrock 600 carb. heads still undecided. was thinking scat or world products sportsman II let me know what ya think. __________________ Respect: 1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. 2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem. 3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation. When you fail to show consideration to others values you are showing disrespect.

03-11-2007, 04:45 AM	#4
zeitlerusmc Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: camp pendleton Posts: 169	Re: engine build up..... isn't that too small of a carb to feed that big cam? comp should also tell you what would be the ideal head and carb setup to run with that cam. I would look more into using some type of kit from one of the big name brands like an edlebrock performer kit which includes cam, heads, intake. or go one up to edlebrocks torker series. 400-500hp is no simple task especially under 2000 bucks I don't think its very likely considering your stock crate motor runs 1500 and only puts out around 260hp-300ft of torque. but hey good luck!

03-11-2007, 07:27 AM	#5
ChiefRocka Hollister, CA. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 6,150	Re: engine build up..... Thats a good cam choice....the same one I went with for my engine. However, I'm not looking to get high HP, just a healthy good sounding engine. I am running an air-gap 1500RPM-up intake, 202 camels, and also a 600 carb. Unfortunatly, as mentioned before on my project thread, my 'Kragen350" that came in my truck has low compression 'smog' pistons in it . I really wanted to install new pistons, but I'm still trying to keep this a low-budget build...and I really don't have the time. For what you want to do, you probably want to run a bigger carb., and definately spend some money on the heads. John __________________ John What the Heck is that ?? CURRENT BUILDS: 62 BurbMaster Other Builds: My '63 C-10,LWB,CC,BBW '06 HD StrAight Axle Swap Father/Son '67 C-20, LQ9,4L80,Bagged,8-Lugger !!Good Friend Richard's Build AMERICAN CUSTOMS & CLASSICS (831) 630-1965 www.ACCHOLLISTER.com ACC on FACEBOOK "Rest in Peace, Mom & Dad ... I will see you again someday!"

03-11-2007, 12:13 PM	#6
Billla Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Monroe, WA Posts: 3,814	Re: engine build up..... *Well...you're certainly not going to get this within a 1-2K budget!* Figure $500+ for machine work alone; $750 if you're not going to do the final assembly. It's possible to do a cheapo performance rebuild on a decent 350 core and get up above 350 HP or so...but IMHO it's not possible to get a 400+ HP build in that budget range unless you can port your own heads. BTW, high-volume pumps are NOT DESIREABLE for SBCs if assembled with proper clearances. Last edited by Billla; 03-11-2007 at 12:13 PM.

03-12-2007, 05:07 AM	#7
hewlett2002000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cleveland, Tx Posts: 1,619	Re: engine build up..... thanks for all the help. ive figured out what im going to do. im going to build a 383 stroker motor. i figure if im gonna do it ill do it the way i want. im 17 and make around $250 a week, so it may take me a while but ill get it done. in the meantime i got the engine thats in my truck now running good so i have something to drive while im building the engine i want. reason i want a 383 is because ive heard they have real good bottom end torque. anyways thanks again for all the help. if you have any info i will need please let me know. thanks, John __________________ Respect: 1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. 2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem. 3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation. When you fail to show consideration to others values you are showing disrespect.

03-12-2007, 09:40 AM	#8
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Re: engine build up..... You should check with Blaine's in Dallas. They have a 383 engine that is pretty reasonable, and they will assemble the bottom end for you as well.



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