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shadaway · 03-17-2007, 01:02 AM

Howdy all.

I've just picked up a 69 C10. LWB. Very Stock. Isn't missing much of anything. I plan on doing quite a bit of work on it and frankly have very little clue as to what I am doing. I owned the same year model as a kid, got it from my father and together we tricked it out a bit. Thing is, that was pushing 20 years ago and, for the record, it aint like riding a bike. This one has factory air although it's not in the best of shape. I could also really use a new Heater/AC control cluster as the one inside is broken a bit, althoug it looks real nice.

So, a couple of questions.

Is there a way to determine exactly which 350 I have without tearing stuff apart? I've found casting information on the web but don't find that info on the motor. The PO made it clear it was a bone stock truck (nothing's ever been done to the motor) and the Sticker inside the glove box says is a 350 and the tranny is a Turbo-Hydra-Matic (WTH?)

Anyway, I've ordered a service manual. (The real one, not a Chilton) It clearly says it's not for rebuilding the motor or tranny.Hoping to find a manual for completely rebuilding the motor and tranny. (good like eh?) Something like "Rebuilding your unidentified Chevy 350 Engine and Tranny for Dummies" book.

I'd also like to do the disc brake thing on the front. Not sure what all that intales (haven't done a search for that here yet so no need to respond if it's already on here, I will find it.)

The main questions are:

Anyone know where to find such a manual? (for rebuilding the motor and tranny)
Anyone know of a way to definitely identify which motor/tranny I have so I can start looking for the rebuild kits etc?

That should hold me over for a few days.

Great place by the way. Became a supporting member a few days back as a result of the caliber of people I've been seeing here.

No spell check though and I'm addicted to it like you wouldn't believe. Sorry if there's alot of mispeelings..

Scott

dan42 · 03-17-2007, 01:07 AM

Welcome from Santa Maria. Hard to say about pistons, etc. without tearing it down. The only thing you can be sure of is the number on the motor - anything can be done in 38 years. Good luck.

GREASEMONKEY72 · 03-17-2007, 04:06 AM

tranny should be a turbo 350, turbo-hydra-matic is what they were called back then and for the brakes all you have to do is bolt up some 71-72 rotors and maybe spindles should be all you need but im not 100% sure or you can bolt in a 73 and up front cross member for the brakes

and call chevy at 1-800-222-1020 and order a restoration packet from them, it has alot of info in it, just have your vin number ready when you call

GREASEMONKEY72 · 03-17-2007, 04:08 AM

almost forgot

to the greatest board around

CrashEd · 03-17-2007, 05:39 AM

If you get the # of the little pad thats in front of the passenges side head. With them numbers we can tell you what you have and the horse power rating and if its factory motor.And you can check here for your trans id Here

PanelDeland · 03-17-2007, 08:13 AM

Also,watch Evil-bay and swap meets to find a Chassis service manual.It is a great resource for repair rebuild.

shadaway · 03-18-2007, 11:40 PM

Thanks much for all the responses. I will be calling Chevy tomorrow morning to get the restore kit.

Do you know if the "Restore Kit" provides the whole step by step how to rebuild a motor?

84_4x4 · 03-18-2007, 11:47 PM

no it does not all the restoration packet has is options and specs on every last item in your truck and it also comes with a full manual of everyone who sells parts for your truck also really cool to look at and has all dimensions you would ever need

RACINJASON22 · 03-19-2007, 12:01 AM

Check these out at the link specialy HOW TO REBUILD YOUR SMALL BLOCK CHEVY
By David Vizard.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/m/667_...Big-Block.html

shadaway · 03-19-2007, 02:37 AM

Many thanks.. this is exactly what I've been looking for..

Quote:

Originally Posted by RACINJASON22

Check these out at the link specialy HOW TO REBUILD YOUR SMALL BLOCK CHEVY
By David Vizard.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/m/667_...Big-Block.html

Rick Mills · 03-19-2007, 07:41 AM

From Colorado.

arkracing · 03-19-2007, 07:57 AM

Welcome.

Disc Brakes: There is alot of infor on here regarding that. If you do a search - do an advanced search and put it something like "rotor" or a single componenet "Spindle" for the key word and my name for the post by. I know I've responed to a couple threads about that subject.

As far as the motor - all 350's are basically the same. If it is original to the truck - I would say it is either a 190 horse or 250 horse. Is it a 2bbl or a 4bbl?

You can't really order a rebuild kit until the motor is apart - so that you can see if it needs to be bored for oversize pistons or if it will need undersize bearings etc. etc.

Not to mention there is about 500 million differant options for rebuilding a SBC.

Check out the Engine and Drivetrain section here on the board - lots of good infor there too.

jd4300fel · 03-19-2007, 10:33 AM

Welcome to the board.
I am up the road from you!! I have some spare parts for the ac if you want them (free)

Mods if this is wrong please remove

shaneschevys · 03-19-2007, 10:40 AM

Welcome from FT Worth TX.

krue · 03-19-2007, 10:45 AM

Welcome to the board from south Mississippi! For economy kits (once you decide what you need) check out www.northernautoparts.com

Question: Does the engine/tranny not work or is this more in the line of preventive maintenance?

shadaway · 03-19-2007, 11:58 AM

Well, being original the heads/valves are ticking like a clock shop. Headers and Pipers are literally rusting off the truck. From what I've found its pushing about 350k miles on what is an original motor. I did find an older timing chain gear in the back and when I asked the PO about it he said "Oh Yeah" it lost power a few years ago and we had to have the chain replaced.

So, I think it'd be best if I just did a complete rebuild.

Quote:

Originally Posted by krue

Welcome to the board from south Mississippi! For economy kits (once you decide what you need) check out www.northernautoparts.com

Question: Does the engine/tranny not work or is this more in the line of preventive maintenance?

03-17-2007, 01:02 AM	#1
shadaway Full Blown Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Antelope, CA Posts: 20	How to Identfy Exact Model of 350 and Tranny... Howdy all. I've just picked up a 69 C10. LWB. Very Stock. Isn't missing much of anything. I plan on doing quite a bit of work on it and frankly have very little clue as to what I am doing. I owned the same year model as a kid, got it from my father and together we tricked it out a bit. Thing is, that was pushing 20 years ago and, for the record, it aint like riding a bike. This one has factory air although it's not in the best of shape. I could also really use a new Heater/AC control cluster as the one inside is broken a bit, althoug it looks real nice. So, a couple of questions. Is there a way to determine exactly which 350 I have without tearing stuff apart? I've found casting information on the web but don't find that info on the motor. The PO made it clear it was a bone stock truck (nothing's ever been done to the motor) and the Sticker inside the glove box says is a 350 and the tranny is a Turbo-Hydra-Matic (WTH?) Anyway, I've ordered a service manual. (The real one, not a Chilton) It clearly says it's not for rebuilding the motor or tranny.Hoping to find a manual for completely rebuilding the motor and tranny. (good like eh?) Something like "Rebuilding your unidentified Chevy 350 Engine and Tranny for Dummies" book. I'd also like to do the disc brake thing on the front. Not sure what all that intales (haven't done a search for that here yet so no need to respond if it's already on here, I will find it.) The main questions are: Anyone know where to find such a manual? (for rebuilding the motor and tranny) Anyone know of a way to definitely identify which motor/tranny I have so I can start looking for the rebuild kits etc? That should hold me over for a few days. Great place by the way. Became a supporting member a few days back as a result of the caliber of people I've been seeing here. No spell check though and I'm addicted to it like you wouldn't believe. Sorry if there's alot of mispeelings.. Scott Last edited by shadaway; 03-17-2007 at 01:21 AM. Reason: Want to change the Subject

03-17-2007, 01:07 AM	#2
dan42 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cali Central Coast Posts: 5,191	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert Welcome from Santa Maria. Hard to say about pistons, etc. without tearing it down. The only thing you can be sure of is the number on the motor - anything can be done in 38 years. Good luck. __________________ '67 SWB Fleetside ZZ4/350/Tremec 5-speed/4link/Scott's IFS - and fun as heck! SOLD Click here to support the board Philippians 4: 6-7

03-17-2007, 04:06 AM	#3
GREASEMONKEY72 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bakersfield,CA Posts: 7,893	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert tranny should be a turbo 350, turbo-hydra-matic is what they were called back then and for the brakes all you have to do is bolt up some 71-72 rotors and maybe spindles should be all you need but im not 100% sure or you can bolt in a 73 and up front cross member for the brakes and call chevy at 1-800-222-1020 and order a restoration packet from them, it has alot of info in it, just have your vin number ready when you call __________________ -steven Alte Seele S.S. "Allison" '72 C/10 LWB 350SB/TH350 - DD PITBULL IS NOT A CRIME

03-17-2007, 04:08 AM	#4
GREASEMONKEY72 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bakersfield,CA Posts: 7,893	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert almost forgot to the greatest board around __________________ -steven Alte Seele S.S. "Allison" '72 C/10 LWB 350SB/TH350 - DD PITBULL IS NOT A CRIME

03-17-2007, 05:39 AM	#5
CrashEd 72 chevy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Il Posts: 725	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert If you get the # of the little pad thats in front of the passenges side head. With them numbers we can tell you what you have and the horse power rating and if its factory motor.And you can check here for your trans id Here Last edited by CrashEd; 03-17-2007 at 05:40 AM. Reason: Spelling LOL!

03-17-2007, 08:13 AM	#6
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,992	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert Also,watch Evil-bay and swap meets to find a Chassis service manual.It is a great resource for repair rebuild. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

03-18-2007, 11:40 PM	#7
shadaway Full Blown Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Antelope, CA Posts: 20	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert Thanks much for all the responses. I will be calling Chevy tomorrow morning to get the restore kit. Do you know if the "Restore Kit" provides the whole step by step how to rebuild a motor?

03-18-2007, 11:47 PM	#8
84_4x4 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville Ky Posts: 179	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert no it does not all the restoration packet has is options and specs on every last item in your truck and it also comes with a full manual of everyone who sells parts for your truck also really cool to look at and has all dimensions you would ever need __________________ 1971 c10 350ci long bed fleet side

03-19-2007, 12:01 AM	#9
RACINJASON22 GEARHEAD Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CENTRAL,PA Posts: 2,284	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert Check these out at the link specialy HOW TO REBUILD YOUR SMALL BLOCK CHEVY By David Vizard. http://www.speedwaymotors.com/m/667_...Big-Block.html __________________ 72 SWB 2WD MY PROJECT 72 LWB 4X4 FUTURE PROJECT SUBSCRIBE HEREBOARD VENDORS HERE NORWOOD MEET SURVIVOR!

03-19-2007, 07:41 AM	#11
Rick Mills Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 351	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert From Colorado. __________________ The Fastor Pastor '68 swb, 447 BBC/ 6-71 Weiand, Dual 950 Bigs Carbs/ 2 1/2" Header tubes - 4" collectors/ M-21 4speed: '70 swb; TH-400 - bagged & shaved. Looking for new engine or parts. Wife - Original {A Real Classic!}

03-19-2007, 07:57 AM	#12
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert Welcome. Disc Brakes: There is alot of infor on here regarding that. If you do a search - do an advanced search and put it something like "rotor" or a single componenet "Spindle" for the key word and my name for the post by. I know I've responed to a couple threads about that subject. As far as the motor - all 350's are basically the same. If it is original to the truck - I would say it is either a 190 horse or 250 horse. Is it a 2bbl or a 4bbl? You can't really order a rebuild kit until the motor is apart - so that you can see if it needs to be bored for oversize pistons or if it will need undersize bearings etc. etc. Not to mention there is about 500 million differant options for rebuilding a SBC. Check out the Engine and Drivetrain section here on the board - lots of good infor there too. __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

03-19-2007, 10:33 AM	#13
jd4300fel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: wheatland, Ca Posts: 427	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert Welcome to the board. I am up the road from you!! I have some spare parts for the ac if you want them (free) Mods if this is wrong please remove __________________ Mike K Friend of Bill W

03-19-2007, 10:40 AM	#14
shaneschevys Its always something! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: FT Worth,TX Posts: 4,992	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert Welcome from FT Worth TX. __________________ 79 p10 stepvan 72 Short Fleetside 72 Suburban 67 GMC One Ton Flatbed 64 Short Fleetside 57 Chevy 2DR Hard Top 57 Chevy 2dr wagon 65 f* short fleet 63 C 60 Flatbed Member of the patina club**

03-19-2007, 10:45 AM	#15
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,448	Re: Total Noob Questions Alert Welcome to the board from south Mississippi! For economy kits (once you decide what you need) check out www.northernautoparts.com Question: Does the engine/tranny not work or is this more in the line of preventive maintenance? __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"



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