Dip stick in the oil pan !?!?!? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Bandit · 05-21-2002, 09:06 PM

There were two broken off dip sticks in the bottom of my oil pan! They were broken off from about the full line down. Anybody ever hear of this problem and know why it happens?

RipMeyer · 05-21-2002, 09:56 PM

Its happened to me before. At the time I did not have the resources to remove it. There is a dampener in the oil pan that should keep it in the bottom. I dont think you should have a problem. However it should be removed as soon as possiable.

Also I think it happens because of the indentition on the dipstick marking the full line. That is where the HOT oil sits and creates an even weaker condition. IMHO

[This message has been edited by RipMeyer (edited May 21, 2002).]

junkyardjohn · 05-22-2002, 12:15 AM

I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN TWICE BEFORE. ONCE ON A BIG BLOCK PONTIAC, & ONCE ON A SMALL BLOCK CHEVY. BOTH TIMES THE GUYS REBUILDING THEM FORGOT TO REPLACE THE GUIDE TUBE THAT FITS IN THE BLOCK, THAT THE DIP STICK RIDES IN, KEEPING IT ANGLED DOWN & OUT OF THE WAY OF THE COUNTERWEIGHTS OF THE CRANK.WHEN YOU PULL YOUR PAN, YOU SHOULD SEE THE GUIDE TUBE HANGING DOWN ABOUT 1 3/4" PAST THE PAN RAILS.

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Bandit · 05-22-2002, 01:41 AM

Yeah, that tube is there, but it goes through that plate that covers the bottom of the engine, it's like a splash plate or something and I think it hits on there or something.

Mike C · 05-22-2002, 07:46 AM

Sounds like you have a windage tray. The dipstick doesn't make it through the hole, then the crank grabs hold of it, and SNAP! There's your answer. :-)

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*Randy70C-10* · 05-22-2002, 09:07 AM

You can drill a hole through the windage tray to fix the problem. You have to put the dipstick in the tube with the oil pan off to see where it hits.

72step · 05-22-2002, 09:29 AM

When I rebuilt my sb, I searched all over the place for that tube that's supposed to keep it in place. Heck, I even purchased one from the dealer, and it wasn't right, so I finally ended up leaving it the way everyone else does.

imaindianoutlaw · 05-22-2002, 11:02 AM

Doesnt the tube go through the windage tray? Should hold the bottom of the tube straight, pontiacs do atleast?

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05-21-2002, 09:06 PM	#1
Bandit Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 23	Dip stick in the oil pan !?!?!? There were two broken off dip sticks in the bottom of my oil pan! They were broken off from about the full line down. Anybody ever hear of this problem and know why it happens?

05-22-2002, 12:15 AM	#3
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN TWICE BEFORE. ONCE ON A BIG BLOCK PONTIAC, & ONCE ON A SMALL BLOCK CHEVY. BOTH TIMES THE GUYS REBUILDING THEM FORGOT TO REPLACE THE GUIDE TUBE THAT FITS IN THE BLOCK, THAT THE DIP STICK RIDES IN, KEEPING IT ANGLED DOWN & OUT OF THE WAY OF THE COUNTERWEIGHTS OF THE CRANK.WHEN YOU PULL YOUR PAN, YOU SHOULD SEE THE GUIDE TUBE HANGING DOWN ABOUT 1 3/4" PAST THE PAN RAILS. ------------------ junkyardjohn http://community.webshots.com/user/junkyardjohn __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

05-22-2002, 07:46 AM	#5
Mike C Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 7,730	Sounds like you have a windage tray. The dipstick doesn't make it through the hole, then the crank grabs hold of it, and SNAP! There's your answer. :-) ------------------ 70 GMC 3/4 ton Sierra Grande 402/TH400 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert TPI & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 72 Datsun 240Z-ol' reliable __________________ 44 Willys MB 52 M38A1 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax

05-22-2002, 11:02 AM	#8
imaindianoutlaw GMC SHORT FLEET F/S Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: SOUTH WILLIAMSPORT PENNSYLVANNIA Posts: 2,117	Doesnt the tube go through the windage tray? Should hold the bottom of the tube straight, pontiacs do atleast? ------------------ Charles W. Hein S. Williamsport PA imaindianoutlaw@yahoo.com REFRIGERATION TECH 1971 Rolling chassis FOR SALE 1963 Pontiac Tempest 1965 Pontiac GTO {SOLD} 1956 Pontiac 2 dr complete for parts __________________ CHARLES WADE HEIN HVACR FOREMAN. LEWISBURG U.S.P.

05-21-2002, 09:56 PM	#2
RipMeyer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern New Mexico Posts: 649	Its happened to me before. At the time I did not have the resources to remove it. There is a dampener in the oil pan that should keep it in the bottom. I dont think you should have a problem. However it should be removed as soon as possiable. Also I think it happens because of the indentition on the dipstick marking the full line. That is where the HOT oil sits and creates an even weaker condition. IMHO [This message has been edited by RipMeyer (edited May 21, 2002).]

05-22-2002, 01:41 AM	#4
Bandit Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 23	Yeah, that tube is there, but it goes through that plate that covers the bottom of the engine, it's like a splash plate or something and I think it hits on there or something.

05-22-2002, 09:07 AM	#6
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	You can drill a hole through the windage tray to fix the problem. You have to put the dipstick in the tube with the oil pan off to see where it hits.

05-22-2002, 09:29 AM	#7
72step Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: chimayo, nm, usa Posts: 898	When I rebuilt my sb, I searched all over the place for that tube that's supposed to keep it in place. Heck, I even purchased one from the dealer, and it wasn't right, so I finally ended up leaving it the way everyone else does.



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