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welsh kev · 03-23-2009, 04:46 PM

The guy who's renovating my 63 GMC has hit a problem with re-fitting the windshield.

Glass broke when he took it out so he's fitting a new one. i had supplied him with a new (as I thought) weatherstrip which I had bought in Canada in 2007.

Problem is that the glass keeps popping out in one corner. He has consulted a professional fitter, whose opinion is that the replacement rubber was probably old stock and had lost some of its elasticity. He tried heating it up in water to soften it but no luck.

Anyone come across this problem before and can suggest a fix? Need the truck on the road ASAP since I'm getting married in a few weeks and both future wife and I want the truck to be part of the wedding!

jonzcustomshop · 03-23-2009, 07:07 PM

something to check is the metal edge that the winshield sits in.
In an assembly manual for my 59 chev car, they have detailed instructions for the tolerances for the w/s to the metal frame.
they have special wooden spacers that they use to see that the metal is lined up all the wau around.(maybe you could mske some spacers with an old w/s gasket)
they had 6 in all 1 each middle top/bottom, and then 1 each on the sides top/bottom.
I guess then what you do is make sure the metal edge thaat the gasket sits on is straight and even all the way around, mark all spots to be adjusted, and then straighten them with a hammer, and block.

this might be why you are having the problem.

there is a worst case scenario, and that is that your cab might be bent, and that is whythe gasket willnot work.

welsh kev · 03-23-2009, 07:15 PM

Thanks Jon. I don't think the cab's bent; truck's virtually original and there's no impact damage apart from a slight crease on the passenger door.

I'll mention the spacers/tolerances to my guy and see how we get on. currently bidding on a new gasket on e-bay, trouble is I just know the UPS airfreight is going to be a killer!

I don't suppose you have any pics that you could scan for me have you?

jonzcustomshop · 03-23-2009, 07:52 PM

I can later on find the page, and take some pics of it with the digital camera.for you.

also try to use uspostal service if you can, I think it is cheaper.,but still probably 35$+!

welsh kev · 03-23-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop

I can later on find the page, and take some pics of it with the digital camera.for you.

also try to use uspostal service if you can, I think it is cheaper.,but still probably 35$+!

Still be cheaper than the hassle I'll get off my ol' lady if this jalopy ain't ready in time!

Thanks Jon I'd really appreciate that.

**Captainfab** · 03-24-2009, 12:01 AM

Yes the USPS is a lot cheaper than UPS or FedEx. I recently sent 2 packages to the UK for $13 US each via USPS versus the $100 US each the other guys wanted. Of course one package took 2 weeks and the other 10 days, and the other two shippers claimed delivery in 4 to 5 days.

jonzcustomshop · 03-24-2009, 08:16 AM

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jonzcustomshop · 03-24-2009, 08:19 AM

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**ChiefRocka** · 03-24-2009, 08:33 AM

Nice info you provided

welsh kev · 03-24-2009, 02:44 PM

Not just nice, buddy, that's absolutely fantastic!

Thanks very much Jon for going to all that trouble. I've sourced a new weatherstrip on e-bay, will let you know how I get on.

welsh kev · 04-03-2009, 03:45 PM

Update; new weatherstrip received (azrestorations on e-bay, $35 and very quick over here) off to my body man tomorrow, fingers crossed we might have the truck for our wedding after all!

**Corts60** · 04-03-2009, 04:47 PM

Good luck man! Be sure to post some pics when you get the chance!

welsh kev · 04-04-2009, 01:04 PM

Be a bit longer than I thought.....

...... on my way up to bed last night, well happy, thought I could take the weatherstrip up today and have the truck done for midweek.

Ever had one of those moments where you realise you've goofed?

Had a mental pic of the e-bay ad, weatherstrip for a 63-66 truck, mine's a 63 can anybody spot the deliberate mistake??

Phoned Classic Parts today but the export guys aren't in till Monday so I'll just hafta wait till then and order the correct 60-63 strip!

Why me, God?

jonzcustomshop · 04-04-2009, 01:27 PM

ooo... that sucks it is always tough to get the wrong part and then have to wait.

63Belair · 04-04-2009, 05:43 PM

We had the problem you mention here with the windshield on my 62 1/2 ton. The installer had some type of glue that he put in the lower rear corners. He then used duct tape to hold the seal and glass in place until the glue he used dried. It has stayed in place with no problem for 5 years so far.

Alan's Classic · 04-04-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by welsh kev

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Ever had one of those moments where you realise you've goofed?

Had a mental pic of the e-bay ad, weatherstrip for a 63-66 truck, mine's a 63 can anybody spot the deliberate mistake??

I don't go thru a day without one of those moments it seems like. If your never do anything, you'll never make a mistake.

Waiting stinks, but it is all part of the game we call a hobby.

Good luck with it.

Alan's Classic · 04-04-2009, 09:43 PM

BTW great info Jon.

roofingbloke · 04-06-2009, 05:26 PM

Good luck with the windscreen rubber & good luck wih the big day,

Darron/swindon wilts, owner of a 63 longbed fleetside,

Thought i was only me that sort of thing happend to,

63Belair · 04-06-2009, 11:40 PM

Yes, the mistake in the ebay ad should read 64-66 rather than 63-66 in that the windshields are different starting in 64

03-23-2009, 04:46 PM	#1
welsh kev Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Carmarthen, Wales, UK Posts: 102	63 Windshield fitting problem The guy who's renovating my 63 GMC has hit a problem with re-fitting the windshield. Glass broke when he took it out so he's fitting a new one. i had supplied him with a new (as I thought) weatherstrip which I had bought in Canada in 2007. Problem is that the glass keeps popping out in one corner. He has consulted a professional fitter, whose opinion is that the replacement rubber was probably old stock and had lost some of its elasticity. He tried heating it up in water to soften it but no luck. Anyone come across this problem before and can suggest a fix? Need the truck on the road ASAP since I'm getting married in a few weeks and both future wife and I want the truck to be part of the wedding! __________________ 63 GMC fleetside, 305 V6; over-built, over thirsty and over here!

03-23-2009, 07:07 PM	#2
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem something to check is the metal edge that the winshield sits in. In an assembly manual for my 59 chev car, they have detailed instructions for the tolerances for the w/s to the metal frame. they have special wooden spacers that they use to see that the metal is lined up all the wau around.(maybe you could mske some spacers with an old w/s gasket) they had 6 in all 1 each middle top/bottom, and then 1 each on the sides top/bottom. I guess then what you do is make sure the metal edge thaat the gasket sits on is straight and even all the way around, mark all spots to be adjusted, and then straighten them with a hammer, and block. this might be why you are having the problem. there is a worst case scenario, and that is that your cab might be bent, and that is whythe gasket willnot work.

03-23-2009, 07:15 PM	#3
welsh kev Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Carmarthen, Wales, UK Posts: 102	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem Thanks Jon. I don't think the cab's bent; truck's virtually original and there's no impact damage apart from a slight crease on the passenger door. I'll mention the spacers/tolerances to my guy and see how we get on. currently bidding on a new gasket on e-bay, trouble is I just know the UPS airfreight is going to be a killer! I don't suppose you have any pics that you could scan for me have you? __________________ 63 GMC fleetside, 305 V6; over-built, over thirsty and over here! Last edited by welsh kev; 03-23-2009 at 07:16 PM.

03-23-2009, 07:52 PM	#4
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem I can later on find the page, and take some pics of it with the digital camera.for you. also try to use uspostal service if you can, I think it is cheaper.,but still probably 35$+!

03-24-2009, 12:01 AM	#6
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem Yes the USPS is a lot cheaper than UPS or FedEx. I recently sent 2 packages to the UK for $13 US each via USPS versus the $100 US each the other guys wanted. Of course one package took 2 weeks and the other 10 days, and the other two shippers claimed delivery in 4 to 5 days. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

03-24-2009, 08:16 AM	#7
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03-24-2009, 08:33 AM	#9
ChiefRocka Hollister, CA. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 6,150	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem Nice info you provided __________________ John What the Heck is that ?? CURRENT BUILDS: 62 BurbMaster Other Builds: My '63 C-10,LWB,CC,BBW '06 HD StrAight Axle Swap Father/Son '67 C-20, LQ9,4L80,Bagged,8-Lugger !!Good Friend Richard's Build AMERICAN CUSTOMS & CLASSICS (831) 630-1965 www.ACCHOLLISTER.com ACC on FACEBOOK "Rest in Peace, Mom & Dad ... I will see you again someday!"

03-24-2009, 02:44 PM	#10
welsh kev Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Carmarthen, Wales, UK Posts: 102	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem Not just nice, buddy, that's absolutely fantastic! Thanks very much Jon for going to all that trouble. I've sourced a new weatherstrip on e-bay, will let you know how I get on. __________________ 63 GMC fleetside, 305 V6; over-built, over thirsty and over here!

04-03-2009, 03:45 PM	#11
welsh kev Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Carmarthen, Wales, UK Posts: 102	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem Update; new weatherstrip received (azrestorations on e-bay, $35 and very quick over here) off to my body man tomorrow, fingers crossed we might have the truck for our wedding after all! __________________ 63 GMC fleetside, 305 V6; over-built, over thirsty and over here!

04-03-2009, 04:47 PM	#12
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04-04-2009, 01:04 PM	#13
welsh kev Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Carmarthen, Wales, UK Posts: 102	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem Be a bit longer than I thought..... ...... on my way up to bed last night, well happy, thought I could take the weatherstrip up today and have the truck done for midweek. Ever had one of those moments where you realise you've goofed? Had a mental pic of the e-bay ad, weatherstrip for a 63-66 truck, mine's a 63 can anybody spot the deliberate mistake?? Phoned Classic Parts today but the export guys aren't in till Monday so I'll just hafta wait till then and order the correct 60-63 strip! Why me, God? __________________ 63 GMC fleetside, 305 V6; over-built, over thirsty and over here!

04-04-2009, 01:27 PM	#14
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem ooo... that sucks it is always tough to get the wrong part and then have to wait.

04-04-2009, 05:43 PM	#15
63Belair Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle Washington Posts: 22	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem We had the problem you mention here with the windshield on my 62 1/2 ton. The installer had some type of glue that he put in the lower rear corners. He then used duct tape to hold the seal and glass in place until the glue he used dried. It has stayed in place with no problem for 5 years so far.

04-04-2009, 09:43 PM	#17
Alan's Classic 1 thing at a time is progress. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ball Ground GA Posts: 5,511	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem BTW great info Jon. __________________ Alan Philippians 2:14-16 Alan's Classic Facebook page. North Georgia Group Project 1965 Vitamin C-10 1995 GMC Sierra K1500 The "Wrecker"



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04-06-2009, 05:26 PM	#18
roofingbloke Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: swindon, england Posts: 290	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem Good luck with the windscreen rubber & good luck wih the big day, Darron/swindon wilts, owner of a 63 longbed fleetside, Thought i was only me that sort of thing happend to,

04-06-2009, 11:40 PM	#19
63Belair Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle Washington Posts: 22	Re: 63 Windshield fitting problem Yes, the mistake in the ebay ad should read 64-66 rather than 63-66 in that the windshields are different starting in 64

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