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Bam Bam 56 · 07-14-2009, 09:13 AM

I am trying to separate the drums from the spindles on my C20 project. Cant seem to find that "magic part" that connects them. Can any one help me out on this or could they just be rusted that bad

69GMCLonghorn · 07-14-2009, 09:20 AM

Separate the drums from the spindles? Did you remove the wheel bearings? If you have, then the shoes are probably just too tight. Sometimes you can get lucky and back them off via the adjuster through the backing plate. Worst case, try prying firmly with a large pry bar between the drum and backing plate. If that doesn't work, take a cut off wheel and HACK the drum to pieces until it falls off... HAHA

Ilike 72"s · 07-14-2009, 09:24 AM

More than likely if you haven't had them off for a while, they will be rusty around the bolts and center hub. For this you can take a hammer and smack around the edge until it comes loose. I have never broke one doing this.
The other problem could be that the brake shoes have worn a groove out into the drum. You would have to loosen the brake adjuster wheel to lift them out of that worn groove so the drum will slide off. Dennis

monte0185 · 07-14-2009, 09:36 AM

x2

69GMCLonghorn · 07-14-2009, 09:58 AM

DANG IT! I always forget to use a hammer when things go awry!!! All kidding aside, that does work pretty well.

Bam Bam 56 · 07-14-2009, 10:10 AM

wow, call yourself dumb and every one responds LOL. I just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing some thing. I tried a hammer but was worried about breaking the drum. I will get a bigger hammer and try it again lol.

71tahoe · 07-14-2009, 03:31 PM

If you're removing them hub and all then it will be the brake shoes worn into a grove. In that case, adjust some slack and it will come off easily. If you got the rivets out of the hub/drum assembly and have backed off the adjuster, you might try using a torch to heat the drum and a BFH.

Longhorn Man · 07-14-2009, 05:09 PM

The drum isn't a slip fit... PUT DOWN THE HAMMER
The drum is rivited to the hub assembly. You need to either grind the rivits down, or remove the nut in the hub that holds it all to the spindle.

**special-K** · 07-14-2009, 10:11 PM

Why don`t you tell us exactly what you have tryed?Did you remove both spindle nuts?

Bam Bam 56 · 07-15-2009, 03:01 PM

I have tried removing the spindle nut all ready, maybe i just had to hit it harder lol, did not know about the rivets. I will look this weekend. I appreciate all your ideas.

mclairmo · 07-15-2009, 09:07 PM

Also try cleaning or filing down the outside edge of the center hub that protrudes from the center of the drum. Sometime dirt and rust forms there and prevents the drum from slipping off.

long67 · 07-15-2009, 11:08 PM

3/4 TON DRUMS DO NOT COME OFF WITH A BFH. THEY HAVE A SCREW IN THE FRONT OR RIVOTS ,MY REAR ONES i HAD TO PRESS OFF THE LUG STUDS.

Bam Bam 56 · 07-15-2009, 11:23 PM

I was hoping no one was going to say those screws were the answer. Time to get out the torch's!

Thanks for the info

**kwmech** · 07-15-2009, 11:34 PM

[QUOTE=Bam Bam 56;3413704]I have tried removing the spindle nut all ready.....................Spindle nut should be plural ......there are 2 of them in there, did ja get them both?

Bam Bam 56 · 07-16-2009, 12:39 AM

nope, just took the one off the front of it, didn't realize there were 2. I guess this is where the "i must be dumb" part come into play lol.

I'm starting to think my race cars are alot easier to work on lol

**kwmech** · 07-16-2009, 10:18 AM

I'll bet it comes off easier now

**michael bustamante** · 07-16-2009, 10:32 AM

Lamont!. . . you big dummy!

07-14-2009, 09:13 AM	#1
Bam Bam 56 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Little Chute, WI Posts: 122	I must just be dumb I am trying to separate the drums from the spindles on my C20 project. Cant seem to find that "magic part" that connects them. Can any one help me out on this or could they just be rusted that bad __________________ Chris "Bam Bam" Shields Little Chute, WI 1970 Chevy Longhorn C20 in progress 2007 Chevy Vortech MAX - every day beast Project Longhorn

07-14-2009, 09:20 AM	#2
69GMCLonghorn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Porter Ranch, CA Posts: 978	Re: I must just be dumb Separate the drums from the spindles? Did you remove the wheel bearings? If you have, then the shoes are probably just too tight. Sometimes you can get lucky and back them off via the adjuster through the backing plate. Worst case, try prying firmly with a large pry bar between the drum and backing plate. If that doesn't work, take a cut off wheel and HACK the drum to pieces until it falls off... HAHA

07-14-2009, 09:24 AM	#3
Ilike 72"s Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: eastern oregon Posts: 623	Re: I must just be dumb More than likely if you haven't had them off for a while, they will be rusty around the bolts and center hub. For this you can take a hammer and smack around the edge until it comes loose. I have never broke one doing this. The other problem could be that the brake shoes have worn a groove out into the drum. You would have to loosen the brake adjuster wheel to lift them out of that worn groove so the drum will slide off. Dennis

07-14-2009, 09:36 AM	#4
monte0185 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brighton, TN Posts: 1,267	Re: I must just be dumb x2 __________________ A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing. Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the world together.

07-14-2009, 09:58 AM	#5
69GMCLonghorn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Porter Ranch, CA Posts: 978	Re: I must just be dumb DANG IT! I always forget to use a hammer when things go awry!!! All kidding aside, that does work pretty well.

07-14-2009, 10:10 AM	#6
Bam Bam 56 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Little Chute, WI Posts: 122	Re: I must just be dumb wow, call yourself dumb and every one responds LOL. I just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing some thing. I tried a hammer but was worried about breaking the drum. I will get a bigger hammer and try it again lol. __________________ Chris "Bam Bam" Shields Little Chute, WI 1970 Chevy Longhorn C20 in progress 2007 Chevy Vortech MAX - every day beast Project Longhorn

07-14-2009, 03:31 PM	#7
71tahoe Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jonesboro, AR Posts: 916	Re: I must just be dumb If you're removing them hub and all then it will be the brake shoes worn into a grove. In that case, adjust some slack and it will come off easily. If you got the rivets out of the hub/drum assembly and have backed off the adjuster, you might try using a torch to heat the drum and a BFH.

07-14-2009, 05:09 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: I must just be dumb The drum isn't a slip fit... PUT DOWN THE HAMMER The drum is rivited to the hub assembly. You need to either grind the rivits down, or remove the nut in the hub that holds it all to the spindle.

07-14-2009, 10:11 PM	#9
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07-15-2009, 03:01 PM	#10
Bam Bam 56 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Little Chute, WI Posts: 122	Re: I must just be dumb I have tried removing the spindle nut all ready, maybe i just had to hit it harder lol, did not know about the rivets. I will look this weekend. I appreciate all your ideas. __________________ Chris "Bam Bam" Shields Little Chute, WI 1970 Chevy Longhorn C20 in progress 2007 Chevy Vortech MAX - every day beast Project Longhorn

07-15-2009, 09:07 PM	#11
mclairmo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Take Off Posts: 1,908	Re: I must just be dumb Also try cleaning or filing down the outside edge of the center hub that protrudes from the center of the drum. Sometime dirt and rust forms there and prevents the drum from slipping off.

07-15-2009, 11:08 PM	#12
long67 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Yakima,WA. Posts: 150	Re: I must just be dumb 3/4 TON DRUMS DO NOT COME OFF WITH A BFH. THEY HAVE A SCREW IN THE FRONT OR RIVOTS ,MY REAR ONES i HAD TO PRESS OFF THE LUG STUDS. __________________ Mark 67 c20 custom camper 55 Olds 2dr hardtop 96 mustang 11 dodge nitro

07-15-2009, 11:23 PM	#13
Bam Bam 56 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Little Chute, WI Posts: 122	Re: I must just be dumb I was hoping no one was going to say those screws were the answer. Time to get out the torch's! Thanks for the info __________________ Chris "Bam Bam" Shields Little Chute, WI 1970 Chevy Longhorn C20 in progress 2007 Chevy Vortech MAX - every day beast Project Longhorn

07-15-2009, 11:34 PM	#14
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,679	Re: I must just be dumb [QUOTE=Bam Bam 56;3413704]I have tried removing the spindle nut all ready.....................Spindle nut should be plural ......there are 2 of them in there, did ja get them both?

07-16-2009, 12:39 AM	#15
Bam Bam 56 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Little Chute, WI Posts: 122	Re: I must just be dumb nope, just took the one off the front of it, didn't realize there were 2. I guess this is where the "i must be dumb" part come into play lol. I'm starting to think my race cars are alot easier to work on lol __________________ Chris "Bam Bam" Shields Little Chute, WI 1970 Chevy Longhorn C20 in progress 2007 Chevy Vortech MAX - every day beast Project Longhorn



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07-16-2009, 10:18 AM	#16
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,679	Re: I must just be dumb I'll bet it comes off easier now

07-16-2009, 10:32 AM	#17
michael bustamante Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 7,873	Re: I must just be dumb Lamont!. . . you big dummy! __________________ 1967custom

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