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60 Apache WA · 02-25-2010, 11:31 PM

OK this is my first project truck. It has the 235 -6 in it and I would like to put a 350 in. I have called every truck add in the magazines and everyone tells me they dont make motor mounts. Anybody know how or where I can get them? or what to do?

GMCMG · 02-25-2010, 11:45 PM

I think you're needing the perches? Different between the I and V motors. Talk to Tony Smith - LILRED66 (http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/member.php?u=17302). I'll bet he's got a few sets.

markeb01 · 02-25-2010, 11:45 PM

Here's a couple of links that will get you started in the right direction:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=369663
http://www.persh.org/pickup/perches.htm

72bigred · 02-25-2010, 11:47 PM

Welcome.. If you use the search function on the site you will find miles of posts on different topics and things you will probably be doing to your truck. In this case you can use a set of perches from a 67-72 truck, on the 60 frame being its shorter than later years you will have to add some shims under the top of the perch on the frame a bit over an inch, i just used some steel plates cut neatly to fit.. Drill some holes and your finished.

Reid

GMCMG · 02-25-2010, 11:49 PM

My apologies; I didn't pay attention to the year of your truck. Does anyone know if the 63-66 perches work the same as the 67-72 for his application?

72bigred · 02-25-2010, 11:53 PM

For what he is doing I would say yes they would as he has to drill holes, I think I read someplace that the 4,5,6 guys look for the 67-72 perches to bring the engine forward? Been awhile since I read on it.

Reid

60 Apache WA · 02-26-2010, 12:51 AM

Everyone says since it is a 60 with torsion bars that is my problem.

markeb01 · 02-26-2010, 01:02 AM

The torsion bars aren't a problem unless you want to run full length headers. The problem is the torsion bar suspension was only used for 3 years, and the aftermarket makes almost nothing for this chassis design. The frame over the front suspension is one inch shorter than the 63-72 design, but a simple steel spacer allows you to use the later motor mount towers or perches by simply drilling a couple of holes. Details are shown at the following link:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=369663

chopper john · 02-26-2010, 04:01 AM

Ive seen 60s with v8s in them . But they use the horse shoe style mount , that mounts to the front of the block.

02-25-2010, 11:31 PM	#1
60 Apache WA Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Winlock WA Posts: 2	Help with 60 Apache 235 OK this is my first project truck. It has the 235 -6 in it and I would like to put a 350 in. I have called every truck add in the magazines and everyone tells me they dont make motor mounts. Anybody know how or where I can get them? or what to do?

02-25-2010, 11:45 PM	#2
GMCMG Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Center, MO Posts: 121	Re: Help with 60 Apache 235 I think you're needing the perches? Different between the I and V motors. Talk to Tony Smith - LILRED66 (http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/member.php?u=17302). I'll bet he's got a few sets. __________________ GMCMG 1964 GMC 1/2 ton LWB project - 1982 GMC 6.2 diesel engine/suspension donor - 1966 Chevy 3/4 ton frame/doors/fenders donor - tons of parts - cause you can't build a truck without 4 of everything! 2001 3/4HD Duramax Diesel extended cab lwb4x4 1984 Chevy C30 6.2 diesel lift truck (project) 1962 GMC w/5 lugs, 350/350 auto (was for parts, but couldn't bring myself to do it!) glascock.m@hotmail.com

02-25-2010, 11:45 PM	#3
markeb01 Senior Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 8,356	Re: Help with 60 Apache 235 Here's a couple of links that will get you started in the right direction: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=369663 http://www.persh.org/pickup/perches.htm

02-25-2010, 11:47 PM	#4
72bigred Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 254	Re: Help with 60 Apache 235 Welcome.. If you use the search function on the site you will find miles of posts on different topics and things you will probably be doing to your truck. In this case you can use a set of perches from a 67-72 truck, on the 60 frame being its shorter than later years you will have to add some shims under the top of the perch on the frame a bit over an inch, i just used some steel plates cut neatly to fit.. Drill some holes and your finished. Reid

02-25-2010, 11:49 PM	#5
GMCMG Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Center, MO Posts: 121	Re: Help with 60 Apache 235 My apologies; I didn't pay attention to the year of your truck. Does anyone know if the 63-66 perches work the same as the 67-72 for his application? __________________ GMCMG 1964 GMC 1/2 ton LWB project - 1982 GMC 6.2 diesel engine/suspension donor - 1966 Chevy 3/4 ton frame/doors/fenders donor - tons of parts - cause you can't build a truck without 4 of everything! 2001 3/4HD Duramax Diesel extended cab lwb4x4 1984 Chevy C30 6.2 diesel lift truck (project) 1962 GMC w/5 lugs, 350/350 auto (was for parts, but couldn't bring myself to do it!) glascock.m@hotmail.com

02-25-2010, 11:53 PM	#6
72bigred Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 254	Re: Help with 60 Apache 235 For what he is doing I would say yes they would as he has to drill holes, I think I read someplace that the 4,5,6 guys look for the 67-72 perches to bring the engine forward? Been awhile since I read on it. Reid

02-26-2010, 12:51 AM	#7
60 Apache WA Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Winlock WA Posts: 2	Re: Help with 60 Apache 235 Everyone says since it is a 60 with torsion bars that is my problem.

02-26-2010, 01:02 AM	#8
markeb01 Senior Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 8,356	Re: Help with 60 Apache 235 The torsion bars aren't a problem unless you want to run full length headers. The problem is the torsion bar suspension was only used for 3 years, and the aftermarket makes almost nothing for this chassis design. The frame over the front suspension is one inch shorter than the 63-72 design, but a simple steel spacer allows you to use the later motor mount towers or perches by simply drilling a couple of holes. Details are shown at the following link: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=369663

02-26-2010, 04:01 AM	#9
chopper john Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: anaheim ca Posts: 274	Re: Help with 60 Apache 235 Ive seen 60s with v8s in them . But they use the horse shoe style mount , that mounts to the front of the block.



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