53 IFS help

[Dan Bowles]

I talked to Scott D today. I've got a 1 ton and we are working out the modifications I have to make to use his kit. I already have most of the Metric suspension parts I need. It is still going to be a bit before I'm ready for any of the kits but I know I don't want to mess around with the '79 cradle that is welded in there right now!

[Scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by Dan Bowles

Scott Danforth and Scott's Hot Rods are different people.

The one I'm talking about is a cross member that you can buy to weld in. Everything else is stock parts you can get from NAPA or where ever you want.

What kind of crossmember does he make and what kind of parts are you talking about you can buy over the counter.Please explain
Justin

[fabguy]

I did ALOT of research last night and found that with his crossmember you can use GM F-body or S-10 suspension parts that you can get at just about any parts house or wrecking yard and there is an abundance of aftermarket stuff available too. I calculated it out and found that I could do an ecomomical conversion and still keep it all GM for about 1/2 the cost. It will take a little bit of time and fab work but I can do alot with it since I have some S-10 suspension stuff already. Well, I am off to do some more research, will check back a little later.
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[fabguy]

Here is a few pics of the body the day we picked it up. Thank god for the help of my friends, with out them I couldn't have done it. I chose to keep this one instead of the 50 burban due to the position, project wise that it was in. There is not an ounce of cancer on it. The frame is completely stripped down ready for paint/powder coat but first I need an IFS to put in it. It came with everything including a set of clamshell doors along with the barn doors that are in it. all the other parts are on a separate trailer that isn't pictured. We have since sanded down most of the body to bare metal and are gonna start the body work.




Here is a pic of the 50 burban that I am NOT gonna use.

[Scottshotrods]

You will save money for sure that way.But the front track will be to narrow for your
truck.If you can post the total price you will have invested in the front suspension
you are talking about all parts down to the rotors, arms ,etc.I would like to compare ours
with yours.We have a great forum discount for members here.
Justin

[fabguy]

Originally Posted by Scottshotrods

You will save money for sure that way.But the front track will be to narrow for your
truck.

Track width is the part I am worried about too. Although he has said that he compensated for the width and the only difference is that it will sit 1" lower than factory if you stay with stock parts. I want mine as low as "CHIZZLER's" His looks SWEET!!

If you can post the total price you will have invested in the front suspension
you are talking about all parts down to the rotors, arms ,etc.I would like to compare ours
with yours.We have a great forum discount for members here.
Justin

Ok no problem. I will price it out as a COMPLETE kit including the parts that I have but at "todays" prices and let you know.

[Dirty Doug]

Is the S-10 ifs conversion the same width as MII ? Is Scottshotrods wider then a MII?

[solidaxel]

Originally Posted by solidaxel

Are the stock height spindles Ford ?

What are your options for a anti-sway bar and what size (dia.) are available?

[CHIZZLER]

Thanks fab guy.check out my build.it was a lot of work in the rear to get it that low.the front was pretty easy.burn in the crossmember and your done.i also looked at other kits but realized nobodys kit compares to scotts.hope that helps.

[Dan Bowles]

The Danforth crossmember is designed to be stock AD width. Just Google him or look on a few of the other sites, there is a lot of information out there.

[Dirty Doug]

Thanks Dan. I looked last night on H.A.M.B. but must of missed it. I will check it out and see if it is a lot more narrow then M II .

[fabguy]

Thank you Dan. I Emailed Danforth about his product and he said any GM metric/ GM Fbody suspension even aftermarket stuff will work. This is sounding pretty good. I wonder if he has the same for a TF series truck as my friends would be very interested.
I googled his name last night& this morning and found an abundance of info on the HAMB and stovebolt.com
thanks again all
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[Scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by Dirty Doug

Is the S-10 ifs conversion the same width as MII ? Is Scottshotrods wider then a MII?

Here are some info
1.Scotts suspension are built per order on what the customer wants.

2.Scotts frontends are built to any track width a customer wants.
meaning wheel mount to wheel mount.Yes the Scotts frontends are
wider than a mustang II style

3.Scotts frontends can be built to any drop the customer wants.

4.Scotts frontends are all custom built at a fair price for the quality
you get and pay for PERIOD.

Justin

[Scottshotrods]

One more thing we have sway-bars as well they are made out of 1 inch solid bar stock.

Justin

[Dan Bowles]

Originally Posted by Scottshotrods

Here are some info
1.Scotts suspension are built per order on what the customer wants.

2.Scotts frontends are built to any track width a customer wants.
meaning wheel mount to wheel mount.Yes the Scotts frontends are
wider than a mustang II style

3.Scotts frontends can be built to any drop the customer wants.

4.Scotts frontends are all custom built at a fair price for the quality
you get and pay for PERIOD.

Justin

What engineering calculations have been performed on your front ends? Have any Finite Element Analysis been done? I would think you'd have certain drop and width limitations to stay within your analysis results to avoid liability. I work in OE Automotive and EVERYTHING we make goes through extensive design analysis.

[Dan Bowles]

fabguy, I think you've done well on that 50. Clamshells are SO nice! The 51 probably would rank high around here in Michigan as rust is our best friend...

[fabguy]

Thank you Dan, I would have tore that one down (50 burban) but I don't have the heart too as it has an ORIGINAL truckstell or tip toe matic overdrive behind a 4 spd and still closed driveline. Excellent candidate for an original resto. It even has the original spare tire carrier & spare still in it. also has original spotlights, & fulton visor. I really hate to see it go.

[Dirty Doug]

Justin, Thanks for your reply. I am going to use air ride all around and at ride height the truck will sit low. When the air is out of the system I want the boards on the ground. With that in mind the truck will only rise up 5 - 6" to ride height and have concerns about a 26 - 27" tall tire hitting the fender. I need to see how wide a M II is from WMS - WMS and go from there. I have more measuring, research and thinking to do.