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**texassquarebodies** · 10-09-2011, 01:16 PM

I have a dually flip kit I am installing and it doesn't seem like the flip bracket is fitting correctly. Its flush with the axle, but not touching the axle perch on either side. Whats up with this??? Its a Western chassis product.

SCOTI · 10-09-2011, 03:25 PM

Tony,

I remember reading that there should be a slight gap on each end & you put a bead of weld there to keep things in place. I never put the bracket on though to see exactly what the gap was.

**texassquarebodies** · 10-09-2011, 04:49 PM

The gap is too much to throw a weld on it. Its 3/8" away from touching the bottom of the spring perch. Im going to add some metal to each side to make it more stable. It moves around alot. I checked both flip brackets and the both are very loose on the rear end.

SCOTI · 10-09-2011, 04:58 PM

Wow.... 3/8" on each side is a bunch. Is the bracket flush/square w/the end of each side on the factory rear end perch? Check w/Cochino12 & see if he had any issues installing his.

**texassquarebodies** · 10-09-2011, 05:39 PM

Its flush and square. Even ground the rear end to bare metal in the area just to be sure. I will make it work. I got a kid that helps me who is a wiz with a cuttin torch and a welder. Just way too loose for me.

SCOTI · 10-09-2011, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texassquarebodies

Its flush and square. Even ground the rear end to bare metal in the area just to be sure. I will make it work. I got a kid that helps me who is a wiz with a cuttin torch and a welder. Just way too loose for me.

I know the destructions said it had to be welded to the rear end bracket @ each end but 3/8" gap is BS. Sorry for the issue....

crazy longhorn · 10-10-2011, 05:55 PM

Take a short pc of 3/8 strap steel, & slip it under both ends,weld it to the original pad on the diff,then tack it to the flip pad? crazyL

**N2TRUX** · 10-10-2011, 06:51 PM

Why not just weld the saddle to the axle housing?

crazy longhorn · 10-10-2011, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Why not just weld the saddle to the axle housing?

That will work....you will even have a little adjustment on the pinion angle, before you fire up the welder

crazyL

SCOTI · 10-10-2011, 07:15 PM

While I agree, that's 1 way around the issue, he shouldn't have to do anything except tack the ends to the perch according to what I've read on the install. That's why I'm curious what others experiences where w/the C30 kits.

**texassquarebodies** · 10-17-2011, 09:58 PM

I don't own a welder, but I know someone who does! I may weld it. I am having some new ones made anyway that are longer. I work for a company that designs and builds aircraft parts. I have a buddy in the machine shop I hooked up with some sq. body parts for his wrecked swb.

He will make me some. He was talking about milling some from a solid chunk of steel on their 5 axis machine. I'm like ok!!!!! It will probably be made from 3/8" and 3/16" metal though. A board member that works for me p/t is makin a C notch from an old 1 ton frame I have.

Im ready to drive this thing!!!

SBTork · 10-18-2011, 06:33 PM

that's good news Tony. Let us know how it turns out for you.

Tony@AirRideTech · 10-20-2011, 09:52 AM

yup... that kind of gap i would definitely weld it. on the C30's there were two axle saddles used by GM... one is a solid block like yours and the other is a stamped piece. That bracket looks like it would fit the stamped saddle....

10-09-2011, 01:16 PM	#1
texassquarebodies Truck Nut Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wills Point, Texas Posts: 407	Dually flip kit question I have a dually flip kit I am installing and it doesn't seem like the flip bracket is fitting correctly. Its flush with the axle, but not touching the axle perch on either side. Whats up with this??? Its a Western chassis product. Attached Images __________________ Tony Kee Texas Square Bodies

10-09-2011, 03:25 PM	#2
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,068	Re: Dually flip kit question Tony, I remember reading that there should be a slight gap on each end & you put a bead of weld there to keep things in place. I never put the bracket on though to see exactly what the gap was. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

10-09-2011, 04:49 PM	#3
texassquarebodies Truck Nut Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wills Point, Texas Posts: 407	Re: Dually flip kit question The gap is too much to throw a weld on it. Its 3/8" away from touching the bottom of the spring perch. Im going to add some metal to each side to make it more stable. It moves around alot. I checked both flip brackets and the both are very loose on the rear end. __________________ Tony Kee Texas Square Bodies

10-09-2011, 04:58 PM	#4
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,068	Re: Dually flip kit question Wow.... 3/8" on each side is a bunch. Is the bracket flush/square w/the end of each side on the factory rear end perch? Check w/Cochino12 & see if he had any issues installing his. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

10-09-2011, 05:39 PM	#5
texassquarebodies Truck Nut Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wills Point, Texas Posts: 407	Re: Dually flip kit question Its flush and square. Even ground the rear end to bare metal in the area just to be sure. I will make it work. I got a kid that helps me who is a wiz with a cuttin torch and a welder. Just way too loose for me. __________________ Tony Kee Texas Square Bodies

10-10-2011, 05:55 PM	#7
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,402	Re: Dually flip kit question Take a short pc of 3/8 strap steel, & slip it under both ends,weld it to the original pad on the diff,then tack it to the flip pad? crazyL __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

10-10-2011, 06:51 PM	#8
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10-10-2011, 07:15 PM	#10
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,068	Re: Dually flip kit question While I agree, that's 1 way around the issue, he shouldn't have to do anything except tack the ends to the perch according to what I've read on the install. That's why I'm curious what others experiences where w/the C30 kits. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

10-17-2011, 09:58 PM	#11
texassquarebodies Truck Nut Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wills Point, Texas Posts: 407	Re: Dually flip kit question I don't own a welder, but I know someone who does! I may weld it. I am having some new ones made anyway that are longer. I work for a company that designs and builds aircraft parts. I have a buddy in the machine shop I hooked up with some sq. body parts for his wrecked swb. He will make me some. He was talking about milling some from a solid chunk of steel on their 5 axis machine. I'm like ok!!!!! It will probably be made from 3/8" and 3/16" metal though. A board member that works for me p/t is makin a C notch from an old 1 ton frame I have. Im ready to drive this thing!!! __________________ Tony Kee Texas Square Bodies

10-18-2011, 06:33 PM	#12
SBTork Garage wrench Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaCrosse, WI Posts: 1,855	Re: Dually flip kit question that's good news Tony. Let us know how it turns out for you. __________________ -Adam 90 V1500 GMC Suburban 350/700R4/NP241..... 01 Saturn SL1 stock DD.....

10-20-2011, 09:52 AM	#13
Tony@AirRideTech Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Huntingburg IN Posts: 620	Re: Dually flip kit question yup... that kind of gap i would definitely weld it. on the C30's there were two axle saddles used by GM... one is a solid block like yours and the other is a stamped piece. That bracket looks like it would fit the stamped saddle....



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