The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-09-2012, 02:05 PM   #1
chevybuilder18
Registered User
 
chevybuilder18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Lincoln, IL
Posts: 880
Swapping the TH350 with TH400. What to do??

if im correct, there is all sorts of different factory cross members for our trucks, not to mention all of the wierd sorts different engine and tranny packages put together.. What im trying to say is, is there only one cross member for exhaust and tranny?
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
Her name is Quicksilver
1978 Chevrolet silverado, shortbox stepside currently being swapped IN is a LM7 5300 vortec, 4l80E, factory 4.11s, slammed, a dream ride and coined QUICKSILVER
gotta pay $$ if you wanna play
chevybuilder18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 03:12 PM   #2
74 stepside
Registered User
 
74 stepside's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SoCal
Posts: 815
Re: Swapping the TH350 with TH400. What to do??

Pretty sure the transmission crossmember is the same for 350 and 400 trans. There should be extra holes in your frame so that it can move forward or backwards in the frame for different trans options. Your driveshaft will also need to be changed as the transmissions are different lengths and yokes are different too.
74 stepside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 04:16 PM   #3
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,257
Re: Swapping the TH350 with TH400. What to do??

And a kick down wire vs a cable. Which isnt mandatory just convient. Th400 slip toke shorten driveshaft.
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 08:05 PM   #4
FlatBlack83
Registered User
 
FlatBlack83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Schuylkill Haven, PA
Posts: 46
Re: Swapping the TH350 with TH400. What to do??

I am actually in the process of doing this, im replacing the 305/th350 with a 454/th400 I looked into alot of different crossmembers, and also thought about making one to work with the exhaust, I finally decided to go with this one, I understand it is for 67-73 trucks and mines an 83 but I like the fact that it boxed in the frame rails, this strengths the frame. I actually got this off another thread on here,
Attached Images
 
FlatBlack83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 09:42 PM   #5
clinebarger
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 6,370
Re: Swapping the TH350 with TH400. What to do??

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlatBlack83 View Post
I am actually in the process of doing this, im replacing the 305/th350 with a 454/th400 I looked into alot of different crossmembers, and also thought about making one to work with the exhaust, I finally decided to go with this one, I understand it is for 67-73 trucks and mines an 83 but I like the fact that it boxed in the frame rails, this strengths the frame. I actually got this off another thread on here,
A factory crossmember with the correct brace/s is stronger than that aftermarket crossmember.

Your 83 has a 4wd crossmember, GM started "standardizing" certain parts like the crossmember....The 4wd crossmember went in every truck even 2wd's.

I think they started doing that in '81. Find a earlier 2wd crossmember (3 pieces)....Crossmember & 2 braces & has 2 humps for dual exhaust.
clinebarger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2012, 06:38 AM   #6
FlatBlack83
Registered User
 
FlatBlack83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Schuylkill Haven, PA
Posts: 46
Re: Swapping the TH350 with TH400. What to do??

Quote:
Originally Posted by clinebarger View Post
A factory crossmember with the correct brace/s is stronger than that aftermarket crossmember.

Your 83 has a 4wd crossmember, GM started "standardizing" certain parts like the crossmember....The 4wd crossmember went in every truck even 2wd's.

I think they started doing that in '81. Find a earlier 2wd crossmember (3 pieces)....Crossmember & 2 braces & has 2 humps for dual exhaust.
Gotch ya! I went with this one because I wanted to run my exhaust above it, I didn't want the exhaust the lowest hanging part. It all depends on what you want, and your application! Clinebarger maybe you could answer another question? Will the driveshaft have to be shortened from going from a 350 to 400?
Posted via Mobile Device
FlatBlack83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2012, 09:16 PM   #7
clinebarger
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 6,370
Re: Swapping the TH350 with TH400. What to do??

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlatBlack83 View Post
Gotch ya! I went with this one because I wanted to run my exhaust above it, I didn't want the exhaust the lowest hanging part. It all depends on what you want, and your application! Clinebarger maybe you could answer another question? Will the driveshaft have to be shortened from going from a 350 to 400?
Posted via Mobile Device
Most all Truck TH350C's are "long tail" with a 9" tail housing & have a total length of 30 3/4".

Short tail TH400's are 28 3/8" long.

So just a guess without knowing EXACTLY what you have....You driveshaft is a little over 2" short???

Using a TH400 can present another problem.....If it was equipped with a "Bolt-on" yoke....The output shaft needs to be machined down or you need a special Counter Bored slip yoke.

If this is the case go with the counter bored slip yoke.....Machining the ouput shaft will require disassembly of the trans. And you have to buy a slip yoke anyway. http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p69_...pline_wth.html
clinebarger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2012, 12:10 AM   #8
FlatBlack83
Registered User
 
FlatBlack83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Schuylkill Haven, PA
Posts: 46
Re: Swapping the TH350 with TH400. What to do??

ok, I did just have the th400 rebuilt and when the guy rebuilt it he swapped it to a slip yoke, I have yet to test the drive shaft because I have been waiting to recieve my crossmember which I got today, hopefully I will be able to do this tomorrow and I will let you know how it goes, but thank you for the information!
FlatBlack83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com