which 3 speed standard

[65truckowner]

I have two different 3 speed transmissions. One is short with a long tail shaft and the other doesent look like it has a tail shaft but is the same length as the other. Which one is the best? One is out of a 66 and the other out of a 65 both c10s

[T2vigil]

How many bolt hold the side cover on?

[65truckowner]

Here is the one I was thinking about using

[1963c-10]

thats a muncie 3speed mc318
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[1963c-10]

the saginaw is probably your other 3speed. will have a long main case and short tail
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[65truckowner]

Which would you use? Or are they about the same

[1963c-10]

i like the muncie personally. parts are still available. im still running the original mc318 in my 63 and its my daily driver. is your truck a a floor shift or coloum shift? which one is your truck currently set up for linkage wise?
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[65truckowner]

It is going to be on the column

[1963c-10]

Id still use the muncie.

[tincan1966]

Originally Posted by 1963c-10

thats a muncie 3speed mc318
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Thanks! Your info helped me, too. I've had one of those laying around for a while and wasn't sure what is was for sure(make/model) Mine came out of a
'66 from behind a 250 6 cyl. and that was al I knew.

Thanks again- and if anyone wants it, let me know.

[1963c-10]

The muncie is a decent trans, commonly called the peanut trans due to its small size.. The saginaw is also and is really desired by the dirt track guys in our area. They lighten the trans by removing a gear. Im just more partial to the muncie. Parts are readily available for both. The muncie is a little bit lighter if you have to remove it. If your going to use it on the coloum, you wont have to make any mods (bearing that the PO made any) to use it. The muncie was the standard 3 speed the factory used. It was also available in an OD ( which is much rarer, but they do pop up). The factory 4 would be the sm420 4 speed and the Powerglide was the auto.

[1963c-10]

Here is a better pic from the site that shows what a nice cleaned up muncie 3 looks like (1st pic. The 2nd pic is the saginaw and the 3rd is a borg warner t-16 HD3sp...which was only used in 68 in trucks and some mid-late 60's chevy muscle cars w/BB engines.

[tincan1966]

Another question, for the asking-- is the Muncie(or any of them) full synchronized? My limited knowledge would lead me to think because of the size that the Muncie isn't.
Simply asking out of curiosity- and to learn

[1963c-10]

The muncie is non-synchro 1st. The saginaw and borg warner are synchronized trans.

[1963c-10]

The 2nd pic I posted above is a saginaw 4 speed. Here is the saginaw 3. They look identical, but the 4 speed has the 3rd lever for reverse. This is the 3speed

[61K10]

there were 2 different tail shafts on the muncie, one short (like in your pic) has a rear cross-member pad. (these were used in 1958-64 cars with the x frame) and i guess 60-65 trucks? the long tail shaft (with no rear mount) was used in 55-? trucks and 55-57 cars. their is different drive shafts for the long and short. myself i have never seen a short shaft in a truck of any year. is using stock column muncie--if floor i would use the sag/sync if thats what you have.

[kieth]

Some one correct me if I am wrong, but the 66 transmission was synchronized in 1st gear where the earlier ones were not. ?? Kieth

[1963c-10]

Earlier muncie mc318's were not synch in 1st gear. I dont know when they went to synch.

[65truckowner]

Thanks for all the replys. I hope to have mine looking as good as the one pictured