The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-05-2013, 07:50 PM   #1
DetroitIron
Registered User
 
DetroitIron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hudsonville, MI
Posts: 174
Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

Hi guys....several hours of searching on here has not confirmed something.... I had a rear hard brake line give out. While replacing the line I lost all the fluid in the rear portion of my master cylinder (dash brake light came on). I replaced the line and am having a difficult time bleeding the brakes. Do I need to bench bleed the master cylinder when replacing a rear brake line? Thanks,

I have an 85 K20
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
_______________________________________________

1985 Chevy Scottsdale K20 350 with 700R4 running 3.42 gearing aka "The Honey Badger"
1993 Silverado C3500 Ext. Cab Dually 6.5 turbo diesel

Last edited by DetroitIron; 04-05-2013 at 07:53 PM. Reason: Added truck info
DetroitIron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 07:55 PM   #2
Restrorob
The One And Only !!!
 
Restrorob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Hole in the woods Florida
Posts: 4,567
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

No, Just let it gravity bleed for a little bit then do the pump-up bleed process.....
__________________
93 Jeep XJ
88 Buick La Sabra
Toys;
88 TA-GTA in the works....
97 GMC Ext. Cab
502 Crate 5 Spd......Sucks Gas But Haulz Azz !


The primary function of an Engineer is to make it difficult for the Fabricator and impossible for the Mechanic.


"Why go out preserved when you can go out beat up, worn out, sliding in sideways screaming, Holy Sh!t What A Ride" !!!
Restrorob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 08:07 PM   #3
DetroitIron
Registered User
 
DetroitIron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hudsonville, MI
Posts: 174
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

Ok great thanks. I have tried that and the pedal is pretty soft ..was hoping I wouldn't have to remove lines from master as I'm sure that will destroy the lines. I read something about adjusting the rear brakes so the shoes are close to the drums to get the pedal push to draw plenty of fluid??
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
_______________________________________________

1985 Chevy Scottsdale K20 350 with 700R4 running 3.42 gearing aka "The Honey Badger"
1993 Silverado C3500 Ext. Cab Dually 6.5 turbo diesel
DetroitIron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 08:19 PM   #4
jasonw
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: College Station, TX
Posts: 25
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

Don't forget that you have to reset the button on the valve that is mounted on the frame near the steering box...otherwise you will have the light on the dash and no rear brake pressure.
Posted via Mobile Device
jasonw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 08:27 PM   #5
DetroitIron
Registered User
 
DetroitIron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hudsonville, MI
Posts: 174
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonw View Post
Don't forget that you have to reset the button on the valve that is mounted on the frame near the steering box...otherwise you will have the light on the dash and no rear brake pressure.
Posted via Mobile Device
Thanks. So if dash light is off...valve is reset? My light is off now
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
_______________________________________________

1985 Chevy Scottsdale K20 350 with 700R4 running 3.42 gearing aka "The Honey Badger"
1993 Silverado C3500 Ext. Cab Dually 6.5 turbo diesel
DetroitIron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 08:31 PM   #6
mgchevyparts
Registered User
 
mgchevyparts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Upland, Calif
Posts: 698
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

The shuttle valve in the prop valve moved when you lost your fluid, that is what triggered the light to come on. If it's back off then it must have moved back to center. If it isn't centered you can reset it by opening a front and a rear bleeder at the same time while bleeding to equalize the pressure to move it back into position.
mgchevyparts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 08:36 PM   #7
jasonw
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: College Station, TX
Posts: 25
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

If you get fluid coming out when you bleed the rear, you are good to go.
Posted via Mobile Device
jasonw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2013, 04:28 AM   #8
krazy_texan
Registered User
 
krazy_texan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: West Des Moines, Ia
Posts: 3,233
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

When bleeding your brakes have done one press the pedal then put your finger over the hole on the bleeder screw before they release the pedal once released remove your finger and repeat the process. What this does is prevents air from being sucked back in the line when the pedal is released. Do this and you should have it within a few pumps it never fails or hasn't for me atleast
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
Krazy Texan
My Trucks are made with Wrenches not Chop Sticks
1967 GMC 3/4 ton "Johnny Cash"
1990 v1500 suburban
1967 Ford f100 Swb 4x4 "green bean"


GOD BLESS JESUS, JOHN WAYNE, AND THE ALAMO
krazy_texan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2013, 08:35 AM   #9
frog210
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: San Antonio, Tx
Posts: 784
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

i would bench bleed the mc, you can buy a bleeder kit for a few bucks or do it with your fingers, i just went thru this whole process 2 days ago putting on a new master cylinder\
__________________
San Antonio, TEXAS
-Frog

-I'm a valet and well I've driven BMWs, Mercedes, Porsche,Bentlys, fiats, Hondas, etc and well even do I like a few features, I love my shortbed, it dosent bore me out, just press on the gas and you'll remember why you love it.
frog210 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2013, 02:25 PM   #10
DetroitIron
Registered User
 
DetroitIron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hudsonville, MI
Posts: 174
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

Thanks everyone. I just finished gravity bleeding all four lines at the wheels. The rears had plenty of bubbles before running clean, solid brake fluid. Now I'm just waiting for my friend to stop over to help with a pump and bleed at all four. Pedal still feels soft the first few inches when pushing it. Hoping the pump/bleed will firm things up. Any other advice is welcome. Thanks Again
__________________
_______________________________________________

1985 Chevy Scottsdale K20 350 with 700R4 running 3.42 gearing aka "The Honey Badger"
1993 Silverado C3500 Ext. Cab Dually 6.5 turbo diesel
DetroitIron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2013, 07:22 PM   #11
wraprail
Registered User
 
wraprail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City Arizona
Posts: 863
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

Quote:
Originally Posted by krazy_texan View Post
When bleeding your brakes have done one press the pedal then put your finger over the hole on the bleeder screw before they release the pedal once released remove your finger and repeat the process. What this does is prevents air from being sucked back in the line when the pedal is released. Do this and you should have it within a few pumps it never fails or hasn't for me atleast
Posted via Mobile Device
You hear the kraziest things here. Lol
What you need is a container with a little clean brake fluid in it ( i use a 2 liter soda bottle) and some clear plastic tubing that will fit tight on the bleeder screw. Keep the end submerged in brake fluid. The finger method is just krazy.
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
wraprail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2013, 09:58 PM   #12
krazy_texan
Registered User
 
krazy_texan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: West Des Moines, Ia
Posts: 3,233
Re: Does the master cylinder have to be bench bled when..

I've tried all sorts of methods including the bottle method seems like every truck is different my 65 c10 I could not get that truck to bleed for anything ive had some bleed easy and some not
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
Krazy Texan
My Trucks are made with Wrenches not Chop Sticks
1967 GMC 3/4 ton "Johnny Cash"
1990 v1500 suburban
1967 Ford f100 Swb 4x4 "green bean"


GOD BLESS JESUS, JOHN WAYNE, AND THE ALAMO
krazy_texan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
brake bleeding


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com