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**ChevyJr** · 05-07-2013, 12:23 PM

I know there are a million threads addressingthis, but I am really lost in all the comments that do not seem to match up. I pulled a 700r4 from a 93 camaro Z28 with an LT1 V8 engine. I have seen the many lockup options but am still a litle lost. I am basically needing guidance as to how to go about my particalar project. Please excuse my ignorance but this is my first automatic trans swap

. Attached is a terrible picture of the tranny, but I will post better pictures later tonight. In the process of cleaning it for painting.

*Is there a difference between a lockup kit and a lockup torque converter. I believe the tranny I have is equipped with a lockup torque converter according to different forums and vehicle information.

*The tranny has a 5-pin connector instead of a 4-pin connector. I understand that in the 1993 that is the correct connector, yet I have only seen ppl upgrade to this tranny/connector not "downgrade" to a 4-pin connector. If i do in fact need a lockup kit, is it possible to change the 5-pin to a 4-pin?

*Is a detent cable the same as a TV cable? I dont know that I remember that when removing this tranny. I have a Holley Street Avenger and the Holley video show them hooking up a detent cable and a TV cable so I asumme the answer to my question is no, but I know those videos can be very gereric.

Any other information would be extremely helpful. Thanks.

Snowbound · 05-07-2013, 12:55 PM

**my swap was a 200r4 but the basics should be the same**

You need to figure out the wiring inside the trans first, but basically to lock up the converter, you need 12 volt to the solenoid inside the trans.

How I did mine was:
-Keyed power through a vacuum switch to allow the converter to unlock upon acceleration.
-then run that wire from the vacuum switch to the brake pedal switch to allow for unlocking upon braking.
-then run the wire to the trans

I bought my TV setup through Bowtie Overdrive. I had to run a 1" spacer under the carb (Edelbrock carb) for the linkage to clear the intake.

You could make this as simple as you want. A simple toggle switch to engage the converter will work. Just don't forget to flip it! Lots of guys using the B&M lockup switch, which I think is speed controlled. I didn't like that, and went with the factory set up.

Good luck,
Brian
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vin63 · 05-07-2013, 02:10 PM

Avoiding writing a novel for a thread reply post, here are a couple of links that should provide some basic answers to your questions...and no worries about being a little confused, everyone has to go through the same process for a 700R4 conversion/installation. If you have any specific follow up questions after going through the info on these links, I'm sure we are all happy to help where we can:

http://www.700r4.com/tech/tcc/index.shtml

http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/cata...BCAT&CATID=OA1

http://www.tvmadeez.com/article/index.php

doobiebro · 05-07-2013, 04:33 PM

Here's another good link http://www.technicalvideos.com/what_year_700R4.phtml

**ChevyJr** · 05-12-2013, 07:02 PM

After taking out the Saginaw tranny, bell housing, blah blah blah I cannot get the new starter on properly. I chose a flex plate and starter from a 72 Caprice because I'm running a sbc 400. Anyone had any experience with this? My shimming skills must be terrible, because its still not sounding great. ANY help would be appreciated.

05-07-2013, 12:23 PM	#1
ChevyJr Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 87	700r4 Swap I know there are a million threads addressingthis, but I am really lost in all the comments that do not seem to match up. I pulled a 700r4 from a 93 camaro Z28 with an LT1 V8 engine. I have seen the many lockup options but am still a litle lost. I am basically needing guidance as to how to go about my particalar project. Please excuse my ignorance but this is my first automatic trans swap. Attached is a terrible picture of the tranny, but I will post better pictures later tonight. In the process of cleaning it for painting. Is there a difference between a lockup kit and a lockup torque converter. I believe the tranny I have is equipped with a lockup torque converter according to different forums and vehicle information. The tranny has a 5-pin connector instead of a 4-pin connector. I understand that in the 1993 that is the correct connector, yet I have only seen ppl upgrade to this tranny/connector not "downgrade" to a 4-pin connector. If i do in fact need a lockup kit, is it possible to change the 5-pin to a 4-pin? *Is a detent cable the same as a TV cable? I dont know that I remember that when removing this tranny. I have a Holley Street Avenger and the Holley video show them hooking up a detent cable and a TV cable so I asumme the answer to my question is no, but I know those videos can be very gereric. Any other information would be extremely helpful. Thanks. Attached Images

05-07-2013, 12:55 PM	#2
Snowbound Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Westbank, BC Posts: 403	Re: 700r4 Swap my swap was a 200r4 but the basics should be the same You need to figure out the wiring inside the trans first, but basically to lock up the converter, you need 12 volt to the solenoid inside the trans. How I did mine was: -Keyed power through a vacuum switch to allow the converter to unlock upon acceleration. -then run that wire from the vacuum switch to the brake pedal switch to allow for unlocking upon braking. -then run the wire to the trans I bought my TV setup through Bowtie Overdrive. I had to run a 1" spacer under the carb (Edelbrock carb) for the linkage to clear the intake. You could make this as simple as you want. A simple toggle switch to engage the converter will work. Just don't forget to flip it! Lots of guys using the B&M lockup switch, which I think is speed controlled. I didn't like that, and went with the factory set up. Good luck, Brian Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1965 Chevy Short Box Stepside, 230 - 3 speed, 4:11 gears, original paint rust free survivor. Now sporting a 383 SBC and TKO-600

05-07-2013, 02:10 PM	#3
vin63 It's Better With Nitro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,262	Re: 700r4 Swap Avoiding writing a novel for a thread reply post, here are a couple of links that should provide some basic answers to your questions...and no worries about being a little confused, everyone has to go through the same process for a 700R4 conversion/installation. If you have any specific follow up questions after going through the info on these links, I'm sure we are all happy to help where we can: http://www.700r4.com/tech/tcc/index.shtml http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/cata...BCAT&CATID=OA1 http://www.tvmadeez.com/article/index.php __________________ 1963 C-10: Deluxe-optioned cab, shortbed, fleetside Pontiac 462 ci, Kauffman D-Port alum. heads 4L80E, narrowed sheetmetal Ford 9-inch Tubular front and rear suspension Custom 6-piston front disc and 4-piston rear disc brakes

05-07-2013, 04:33 PM	#4
doobiebro Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Chaparral NM Posts: 693	Re: 700r4 Swap Here's another good link http://www.technicalvideos.com/what_year_700R4.phtml __________________ CURRENT & PAST CHEVY TRUCKS 60 C-10 Apache short step side 62 C-10 short step side 66 GMC Long bed fleet side 305 V-6 77 C-20 Custom Deluxe (Blue Goose)

05-12-2013, 07:02 PM	#5
ChevyJr Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 87	Re: 700r4 Swap After taking out the Saginaw tranny, bell housing, blah blah blah I cannot get the new starter on properly. I chose a flex plate and starter from a 72 Caprice because I'm running a sbc 400. Anyone had any experience with this? My shimming skills must be terrible, because its still not sounding great. ANY help would be appreciated.



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