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Old 10-30-2014, 05:23 PM   #1
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Why are the prices all over the place?

I am going to a 400hp crate 350 from summit racing and I want to go to a new aluminum radiator with an alum schrod and a double fan

I am seeing prices from $150-1500 I count want to have to buy the item twice but also don't want to throw money at something unnecessarily

I have a 65 shortbed stepside
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:34 PM   #2
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

I learned about this one from other members right here on the forum.http://www.speedcooling.com/ I got one for myself (great price) and I am happy with it. I only had to modify my lower mount cradles a bit because the lower tank on the new one is wider. I simply cut my cradels in two and mig welded in an extension. Then scrounged up some extra rubber for cushioning in the cradle. My engine is cool and happy too.

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Old 10-31-2014, 08:09 AM   #3
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

Check these board vendors out. The will make just about whatever you want.

I havent dealt with them but others have.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=591690
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:55 AM   #4
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

always Vendors first but if they dont have what you need try CFR Performance I got mine there and its nice...Really good pricing
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Old 10-31-2014, 09:08 AM   #5
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

Has anyone tried the setup that Brothers offers? I see they have a 3 row direct replacement with the shroud an and electric fan

on sale right now for under $500.
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Old 10-31-2014, 10:51 AM   #6
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

I'm leaning towards a champion. ..any feedback on those..
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:40 PM   #7
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

Quick search found this

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Old 10-31-2014, 06:26 PM   #8
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

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I'm leaning towards a champion. ..any feedback on those..
I fitted a champion to mine (64 with 230) had to widen lower mount and remove top mount. Made brackets to support top of radiator. Other than that it works well.
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

Go to Champion radiators their site is a pain but an aluminum 2 core for your truck is right around 200, I put one in my old truck with a big block and never saw my gauge go over 190.
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:42 PM   #10
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

I have one from Champion, it is a 2 core with 1" cores, it cools my LSx with AC and Texas heat very well.

Also, this is the 2nd one I have had, first one sprung a leak and they replaced it for free!
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

Look at the tail end of my build thread and you can see my Champion and fan install.

Start at #78 of the thread.
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Old 11-01-2014, 04:35 PM   #12
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Re: Why are the prices all over the place?

I went with one from a vendor R&D Fabrication http://www.rndfabrication.com/CrossflowRadiators.html I only ordered it about a week ago so it's not in my hands yet BUT it's guaranteed to cool a stock 454 pulling a 28' travel trailer in our triple digit summers.
just a heads up the 2 row Champion radiators only have 3/4" wide tubes and the 3 & 4 rows are only 5/8" tubes. More tubes = more turbulence & less effective cooling. The smaller tubes speak for themselves. I'm not knocking Champion Radiators, I'm just saying to take a good look at what you need or expect from your new radiator and go what will work for your needs.
Another example, I had to replace the radiator on my 02 PT Cruiser a couple of years back. I bought a cheap one from Auto Zone or O'reame's I forgot which. My PT was running hotter than normal this last summer. While doing some routine maintenance I noticed all the lower cooling fins were folded over not allowing any flow through the last 6" of the radiator. All the fin's protected by the A/C condenser were fine the lower non protected fins had no flow. I didn't notice when I put the radiator in but the cooling fins weren't much better than aluminum foil.
All I ask is to research (which I'm sure why you made your post) and figure what your needs and future needs are and make your purchase based on that.
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Old 11-01-2014, 08:56 PM   #13
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I went with one from a vendor R&D Fabrication http://www.rndfabrication.com/CrossflowRadiators.html I only ordered it about a week ago so it's not in my hands yet BUT it's guaranteed to cool a stock 454 pulling a 28' travel trailer in our triple digit summers.
just a heads up the 2 row Champion radiators only have 3/4" wide tubes and the 3 & 4 rows are only 5/8" tubes. More tubes = more turbulence & less effective cooling. The smaller tubes speak for themselves. I'm not knocking Champion Radiators, I'm just saying to take a good look at what you need or expect from your new radiator and go what will work for your needs.
Another example, I had to replace the radiator on my 02 PT Cruiser a couple of years back. I bought a cheap one from Auto Zone or O'reame's I forgot which. My PT was running hotter than normal this last summer. While doing some routine maintenance I noticed all the lower cooling fins were folded over not allowing any flow through the last 6" of the radiator. All the fin's protected by the A/C condenser were fine the lower non protected fins had no flow. I didn't notice when I put the radiator in but the cooling fins weren't much better than aluminum foil.
All I ask is to research (which I'm sure why you made your post) and figure what your needs and future needs are and make your purchase based on that.
Makes perfect sense I ordered a 3 row with the auto trans cooler locally for $300 now to match up a good 2 fan shroud. The old motor is out engine bay getting pressure washed sanded and painted satin black tomorrow. Monday new motor goes in. I want to take a good measurement from the front of the new serpentine setup to the new radiator and see exactly how much room we will have for the fans. I want at least 3000cfm. I learned the one from brothers is 1600cfm.
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