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RoughKuntry · 12-18-2014, 01:38 AM

Where to start,

well my mechanic decided to tell me that he Black Flag my truck because the wire harness is the wrong year, the engine is from 86, the front clip and doors are from 89, the cab is from 77, and the rest of the truck is from 73. I need help. I have already spent 6k invested.

Is there anyway I could swap out the harness from 89 and use my 80 harness that goes with the engine?

74CustomK20 · 12-18-2014, 10:45 AM

I have a 79 CSB harness for guages of you can use it. I'm going 74 wiring so it will be unneeded.

RoughKuntry · 12-18-2014, 05:36 PM

See my truck is a survivor from 73, I still have that harness, there are a few wires missing but I know where everything goes. PM me

bnoon · 12-18-2014, 07:50 PM

Unless you're doing a factory fresh restoration or something there is no reason to black flag it. Crazy. Match the harness to the cab harness would be the easiest to me. Everything is pretty much spade or ring style connectors anyway and very easy to adapt.

ElGracho · 12-18-2014, 09:07 PM

What does black flag mean? Is this an emissions thing or just a mechanics opinion that your truck needs a bunch of work?

RoughKuntry · 12-18-2014, 10:19 PM

It means the mechanic is refusing to work on the truck due to his own personal view, of me using 5 different years of chevy trucks, to build 1 solid runner. However I get used but new parts tomorrow, and the truck will look like a 73 once again.

slotard · 12-18-2014, 10:44 PM

What do you want help with? If I was working for money I'd be very reluctant to work on a truck frankensteined as much as that, too likely to have problems that might be very difficult to diagnose (which might reflect poorly on my skills).

RoughKuntry · 12-19-2014, 02:42 AM

Well it was just a cab swap. Cuz I'm building the 73 clip back.

andrewmp6 · 12-19-2014, 06:55 AM

Find a new mechanic.If he don't want to work on your truck im sure someone else will galdy take your money.

RoughKuntry · 12-19-2014, 07:18 AM

I understand that, however one of his employees screwed the brakes up on my C10, and charged me with a $800 bill. Pocketed $600 and didn't do a damn thing.

RoughKuntry · 12-19-2014, 07:19 AM

The reason why I had to rebuild the 73. I wrecked my c10, and broke 3 ribs on the right side of my chest.

**Corts60** · 12-19-2014, 11:40 AM

Now it makes sense why he "black flagged" you. If they screwed up your brakes, they don't want to eat the money to fix it so their excuse is that your truck is a Frankenstein. Sounds like a bunch of dirt bags. Maybe small claims court is best option.

74CustomK20 · 12-19-2014, 05:52 PM

I agree with Corts. Court Is a possibility. Uebelhor's in jasper tried that. I mentioned court the next time I was there and walaa. Next day done. And pm sent.

**undertaker72** · 12-19-2014, 06:05 PM

I think I would shop for a different mechanic , they must be jerks , hell they get paid by the hour for there work , id fix the scars on frankenstiens head if I were getting paid , I don't understand them, we get people that want frankensteins built with thir parts and ours and event his bride , moneys money parts are parts and it all works just my 2 cents worth , get a working mechanic

Oregoon · 12-19-2014, 09:08 PM

Small Claims, definitely.

What does "Black Flag" mean? Is it a registration problem?

slotard · 12-19-2014, 09:21 PM

He stated above that it's just that said mechanic doesn't want to work on it. If it wasn't for the problem regarding him screwing you on the brakes I wouldn't see anything wrong - it can be very difficult to troubleshoot frankensteins, and if they do it wrong or take a long time it can reflect poorly on the mechanic.

meter swinger · 12-20-2014, 02:15 AM

To repeat what everyone else says, find a real mechanic. I dont know about small claims as that would be a tough thing to prove. However....I would let him him know monday morning at 9AM that I would not stop telling anyone and everyone who would listen what @$&?#!'s they are until i am laid to rest and pushing up daisys.
If you are on facebook checkout the group Northwest C10s. A couple members are mechanics by trade and could possibly point you to a decent shop.

Squareforceone · 12-20-2014, 05:35 PM

800 dollars for brakes what the hell?

12-18-2014, 01:38 AM	#1
RoughKuntry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington Posts: 238	I need some help from members in Wa. Where to start, well my mechanic decided to tell me that he Black Flag my truck because the wire harness is the wrong year, the engine is from 86, the front clip and doors are from 89, the cab is from 77, and the rest of the truck is from 73. I need help. I have already spent 6k invested. Is there anyway I could swap out the harness from 89 and use my 80 harness that goes with the engine? __________________ RoughKuntry 73 GMC 25 HUNDRED :Sold 79 GMC High Sierra 4x4 (Ma-Duece) :Sold 99 Chevrolet LS 4.8l/5 Speed Manual 4x4 :Selling 88 Chevrolet Burban 2500 4x4 :Buying

12-18-2014, 10:45 AM	#2
74CustomK20 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tell City, IN Posts: 637	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. I have a 79 CSB harness for guages of you can use it. I'm going 74 wiring so it will be unneeded. __________________ Big Nate Carp. Local 224. Buy made in the USA! 03 F350 6.0 Daily Race Truck. 79 C70 366 Project Dump.

12-18-2014, 05:36 PM	#3
RoughKuntry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington Posts: 238	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. See my truck is a survivor from 73, I still have that harness, there are a few wires missing but I know where everything goes. PM me __________________ RoughKuntry 73 GMC 25 HUNDRED :Sold 79 GMC High Sierra 4x4 (Ma-Duece) :Sold 99 Chevrolet LS 4.8l/5 Speed Manual 4x4 :Selling 88 Chevrolet Burban 2500 4x4 :Buying

12-18-2014, 07:50 PM	#4
bnoon Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Des Moines IA Posts: 1,250	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. Unless you're doing a factory fresh restoration or something there is no reason to black flag it. Crazy. Match the harness to the cab harness would be the easiest to me. Everything is pretty much spade or ring style connectors anyway and very easy to adapt. __________________ - 1981 Sierra 454, NV4500 swap - 2006 Z06, 25k miles - 1973 Nova - Project CarNova Virus on Youtube

12-18-2014, 09:07 PM	#5
ElGracho Gentleman Jim Driver Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 1,553	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. What does black flag mean? Is this an emissions thing or just a mechanics opinion that your truck needs a bunch of work? __________________ Joe '75 GMC Gentleman Jim '84 Chev C10 Short Wide - Super duper plain (manual steering, manual brakes, no dome light, no cig lighter) '85 Chev C10 Short Wide - Super plain Vortec 4.8 4L60E trans also: '81 K30, '83 C30 Crew Dually, '84 M1028 CUCV, '85 M1009 CUCV, another '85 C10 SWB, '89 R3500 Flatbed

12-18-2014, 10:19 PM	#6
RoughKuntry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington Posts: 238	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. It means the mechanic is refusing to work on the truck due to his own personal view, of me using 5 different years of chevy trucks, to build 1 solid runner. However I get used but new parts tomorrow, and the truck will look like a 73 once again. __________________ RoughKuntry 73 GMC 25 HUNDRED :Sold 79 GMC High Sierra 4x4 (Ma-Duece) :Sold 99 Chevrolet LS 4.8l/5 Speed Manual 4x4 :Selling 88 Chevrolet Burban 2500 4x4 :Buying

12-18-2014, 10:44 PM	#7
slotard Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Alameda, CA Posts: 877	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. What do you want help with? If I was working for money I'd be very reluctant to work on a truck frankensteined as much as that, too likely to have problems that might be very difficult to diagnose (which might reflect poorly on my skills). __________________ 1973 C20, 350/350

12-19-2014, 02:42 AM	#8
RoughKuntry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington Posts: 238	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. Well it was just a cab swap. Cuz I'm building the 73 clip back. __________________ RoughKuntry 73 GMC 25 HUNDRED :Sold 79 GMC High Sierra 4x4 (Ma-Duece) :Sold 99 Chevrolet LS 4.8l/5 Speed Manual 4x4 :Selling 88 Chevrolet Burban 2500 4x4 :Buying

12-19-2014, 06:55 AM	#9
andrewmp6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 5,811	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. Find a new mechanic.If he don't want to work on your truck im sure someone else will galdy take your money.

12-19-2014, 07:18 AM	#10
RoughKuntry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington Posts: 238	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. I understand that, however one of his employees screwed the brakes up on my C10, and charged me with a $800 bill. Pocketed $600 and didn't do a damn thing. __________________ RoughKuntry 73 GMC 25 HUNDRED :Sold 79 GMC High Sierra 4x4 (Ma-Duece) :Sold 99 Chevrolet LS 4.8l/5 Speed Manual 4x4 :Selling 88 Chevrolet Burban 2500 4x4 :Buying

12-19-2014, 07:19 AM	#11
RoughKuntry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington Posts: 238	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. The reason why I had to rebuild the 73. I wrecked my c10, and broke 3 ribs on the right side of my chest. __________________ RoughKuntry 73 GMC 25 HUNDRED :Sold 79 GMC High Sierra 4x4 (Ma-Duece) :Sold 99 Chevrolet LS 4.8l/5 Speed Manual 4x4 :Selling 88 Chevrolet Burban 2500 4x4 :Buying

12-19-2014, 11:40 AM	#12
Corts60 Just here to tinker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holland, MI Posts: 3,697	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. Now it makes sense why he "black flagged" you. If they screwed up your brakes, they don't want to eat the money to fix it so their excuse is that your truck is a Frankenstein. Sounds like a bunch of dirt bags. Maybe small claims court is best option. __________________ 78 C10 SWB Diesel #1 (wrecked)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...1978+silverado 78 C10 SWB Diesel #2 (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=650751 60 GMC Suburban (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=445526 60 GMC 1000 (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=298235 67 GMC 1500 (sold) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=803695 73 Chevy C20(Daily)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=852767 86 Suburban(summer unit) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=810697 88 Suburban 4x4(sold)

12-19-2014, 05:52 PM	#13
74CustomK20 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tell City, IN Posts: 637	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. I agree with Corts. Court Is a possibility. Uebelhor's in jasper tried that. I mentioned court the next time I was there and walaa. Next day done. And pm sent. __________________ Big Nate Carp. Local 224. Buy made in the USA! 03 F350 6.0 Daily Race Truck. 79 C70 366 Project Dump.

12-19-2014, 06:05 PM	#14
undertaker72 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: nephi , utah Posts: 2,308	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. I think I would shop for a different mechanic , they must be jerks , hell they get paid by the hour for there work , id fix the scars on frankenstiens head if I were getting paid , I don't understand them, we get people that want frankensteins built with thir parts and ours and event his bride , moneys money parts are parts and it all works just my 2 cents worth , get a working mechanic

12-19-2014, 09:08 PM	#15
Oregoon Roadside Rebuilder Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southeast Portland, OR Posts: 421	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. Small Claims, definitely. What does "Black Flag" mean? Is it a registration problem?



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12-19-2014, 09:21 PM	#16
slotard Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Alameda, CA Posts: 877	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. He stated above that it's just that said mechanic doesn't want to work on it. If it wasn't for the problem regarding him screwing you on the brakes I wouldn't see anything wrong - it can be very difficult to troubleshoot frankensteins, and if they do it wrong or take a long time it can reflect poorly on the mechanic. __________________ 1973 C20, 350/350

12-20-2014, 02:15 AM	#17
meter swinger Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Kennewick WA. Posts: 1,437	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. To repeat what everyone else says, find a real mechanic. I dont know about small claims as that would be a tough thing to prove. However....I would let him him know monday morning at 9AM that I would not stop telling anyone and everyone who would listen what @$&?#!'s they are until i am laid to rest and pushing up daisys. If you are on facebook checkout the group Northwest C10s. A couple members are mechanics by trade and could possibly point you to a decent shop.

12-20-2014, 05:35 PM	#18
Squareforceone Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Rustville USA or southeast Ia Posts: 654	Re: I need some help from members in Wa. 800 dollars for brakes what the hell? __________________ Rust is better than rice.

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