Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Slammed84 · 03-08-2015, 05:27 PM

Was cleaning out the car hole yesterday and came across these. My parents must have bought them back in the 80's.

Im not sure if its okay to sell them or if its against the law. I've heard you have to have a license.or something now.

69heavychevy · 03-08-2015, 06:05 PM

It's 100% illegal to import or manufacture R-12 in the US....you have to be "licensed" to "handle" R-12. If you don't need them you can probably throw'em on craigslist and get $25+ for each can

Titomars · 03-08-2015, 06:32 PM

I still run R12 in my square. And yes I do have a license to handle the stuff. I wish you lived near me. I'd buy it from you.

Slammed84 · 03-08-2015, 07:35 PM

Is it illegal to ship it?

Malo83 · 03-08-2015, 07:59 PM

Still running R12 in my square also, just had it reserviced last summer, local repair shop still has R12

Titomars · 03-08-2015, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Slammed84

Is it illegal to ship it?

As of a few years ago it is a hazardous commodity like spray paint. It can only go ground with the hazardous labels.

Slammed84 · 03-08-2015, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Titomars

As of a few years ago it is a hazardous commodity like spray paint. It can only go ground with the hazardous labels.

TITO , Id be happy to let them go if you're interested.

Titomars · 03-08-2015, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Slammed84

TITO , Id be happy to let them go if you're interested.

I am interested if the price is right. But you might want to check on what shipping costs would be first. My zip[ is 95409.

Slammed84 · 03-08-2015, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Titomars

I am interested if the price is right. But you might want to check on what shipping costs would be first. My zip[ is 95409.

I'll look into when I get a chance this week. I'll PM you when I know more, maybe we can work something out. Maybe a trade or something.

Titomars · 03-08-2015, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Slammed84

I'll look into when I get a chance this week. I'll PM you when I know more, maybe we can work something out. Maybe a trade or something.

Works for me Slammed. I'll wait to hear from you.

**MikeB** · 03-09-2015, 11:44 AM

I recently sold 5 full 12 oz cans on craigslist for an insane asking price. And the guy who bought them was very happy.

As I recall, a full 12 oz can weighs around 14 oz. That means your 14 oz cans should weigh at least 16 oz. I say that because I have seen a couple go nearly empty after sitting for several years.

mattcrp1 · 03-09-2015, 12:17 PM

I have done a few retro fits to 134a on some brand X vehicles. It seems to work ok. I ought to let my dad know that the 12lb(?) keg of r12 he has is still worth something. LOL

Titomars · 03-09-2015, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeB

I recently sold 5 full 12 oz cans on craigslist for an insane asking price. And the guy who bought them was very happy.

As I recall, a full 12 oz can weighs around 14 oz. That means your 14 oz cans should weigh at least 16 oz. I say that because I have seen a couple go nearly empty after sitting for several years.

Yeah you're right, the price can go high. But I have my license. I can walk into any store and buy the stuff. I realize most being sold through C/L and places like here the buyer 9 times out of 10 is a home mechanic or do it yourselfer who is just trying to get his stuff working without spending a lot.
I have opened fresh sealed cases and found an empty can or two inside. The stuff definitely does not like being caged.

Motherfrog402 · 03-09-2015, 12:38 PM

I remember when you could get a can for $.99

Friggin' EPA...

Titomars · 03-09-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Motherfrog402

I remember when you could get a can for $.99

Friggin' EPA...

And they were 16oz too.
I also remember a time when shops just drained the systems to atmosphere before servicing them.

Slammed84 · 03-09-2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Motherfrog402

I remember when you could get a can for $.99

Friggin' EPA...

Yeah the green walmart tags say $1.17 I think. They're both still full, pretty heavy for the size actually.

Jeepwm69 · 03-09-2015, 03:47 PM

By the time the EPA is done with it, R134 will probably be gone too.

Ziegelsteinfaust · 03-09-2015, 05:40 PM

Most shops now use one of the hit shots in vehicles since it is much cheaper then the real R12. My dad has a 50 pound cylinder of 12 at his compound, and I have done a R212 rerto fit.

Besides R212 drop in the best is R12.

03-08-2015, 05:27 PM	#1
Slammed84 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 292	Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? Was cleaning out the car hole yesterday and came across these. My parents must have bought them back in the 80's. Im not sure if its okay to sell them or if its against the law. I've heard you have to have a license.or something now. Attached Images __________________ 84' C-10 Custom Deluxe 97' & 98' C-1500 Silverados

03-08-2015, 06:05 PM	#2
69heavychevy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Garland,TX Posts: 431	Re: Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? It's 100% illegal to import or manufacture R-12 in the US....you have to be "licensed" to "handle" R-12. If you don't need them you can probably throw'em on craigslist and get $25+ for each can __________________ 80 C10 SWB Step Side - 350 w/ vortec heads, TH350, 12-bolt 3.73

03-08-2015, 06:32 PM	#3
Titomars Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Santa Rosa, Ca. Posts: 539	Re: Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? I still run R12 in my square. And yes I do have a license to handle the stuff. I wish you lived near me. I'd buy it from you. __________________ 1977 Chevrolet C/10 Silverado. Step-Side, Factory 454, TH400, 3.73 Posi 12 Bolt. 1975 Chevrolet El Camino. 350, TH400, 3.08 Posi 10 Bolt.

03-08-2015, 07:35 PM	#4
Slammed84 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 292	Re: Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? Is it illegal to ship it? __________________ 84' C-10 Custom Deluxe 97' & 98' C-1500 Silverados

03-08-2015, 07:59 PM	#5
Malo83 Cruzzzn' Vet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Porterville,Ca. Posts: 1,918	Re: Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? Still running R12 in my square also, just had it reserviced last summer, local repair shop still has R12

03-09-2015, 11:44 AM	#11
MikeB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: North Texas Posts: 3,612	Re: Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? I recently sold 5 full 12 oz cans on craigslist for an insane asking price. And the guy who bought them was very happy. As I recall, a full 12 oz can weighs around 14 oz. That means your 14 oz cans should weigh at least 16 oz. I say that because I have seen a couple go nearly empty after sitting for several years. __________________ Mike 1969 C10 LWB -- owned for 36 years. 350/TH350, 3.08 posi, 1st Gen Vintage Air, recent AAW wiring harness, 5-lug conversion, 1985 spindles and brakes. 1982 C10 SWB -- sold 1981 C10 Silverado LWB -- sold, but wish I still had it! 1969 C10 (not the current one) that I bought in the early 1980s. Paid $1200; sold for $1500 a few years later. Just a hint at the appreciation that was coming. Retired as a factory automation products salesman. Worked part-time over the years for an engine builder and a classic car repair shop. Member here for 24 years! This is the very first car/truck Internet forum I joined. I still used a dial-up modem back then!

03-09-2015, 12:17 PM	#12
mattcrp1 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mountain House, CA Posts: 555	Re: Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? I have done a few retro fits to 134a on some brand X vehicles. It seems to work ok. I ought to let my dad know that the 12lb(?) keg of r12 he has is still worth something. LOL __________________ My Chevy habit is paid for by Ford diesels... Here is my SLOW LS install: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...55#post6456355 Caliper Rebuild: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=613748 Upper Control Arm Bushings: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=616974 IG mattcrp1

03-09-2015, 12:38 PM	#14
Motherfrog402 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 264	Re: Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? I remember when you could get a can for $.99 Friggin' EPA... __________________ Fred 1974 C-20 Fleetside White/Crimson Red 292/SM465 4.10:1 open 1976 AMC/Jeep CJ-5 Lime Green 258/T150 3.54:1 open 1972 C10 Suburban - SOLD White/Medium Spruce Metallic/White Avocado Highlander Pkg 402/TH400 3.08:1 open

03-09-2015, 03:47 PM	#17
Jeepwm69 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 687	Re: Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? By the time the EPA is done with it, R134 will probably be gone too.

03-09-2015, 05:40 PM	#18
Ziegelsteinfaust Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Temple City Posts: 3,640	Re: Anybody still using R-12 in their A/C? Most shops now use one of the hit shots in vehicles since it is much cheaper then the real R12. My dad has a 50 pound cylinder of 12 at his compound, and I have done a R212 rerto fit. Besides R212 drop in the best is R12.



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