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Old 07-18-2016, 09:18 AM   #1
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6.0 oil pressure issue

I recently swapped a 2005 6.0/4L60E into my 77 c10. The engine had 225k plus miles on it when I got it. I never personally heard it run but was told by the guy that I bought it from that it held good oil pressure but had the normal LS lifter tick at idle. I tore into and below is a list of parts I replaced.

Main bearings
Rod bearings
Oil pump
Lifters
Timing chain
front and rear seals and gaskets
oil pan gasket
head gaskets
valley pan gasket
intake gasket

My issue is that my Autometer oil pressure gauge only reads around 10psi at start up. It goes up a little when you give it gas but not as much as I think it should. I tried a secondary mechanical gauge and get basically the same reading.

I have the sending unit in the location where the factory sending unit went.
I've pulled the plug on the left front of the engine and the one above the oil filter and both puked oil while cranking.
There isn't any knocking or rattling like I think there would be if it did actually have low oil pressure.

Does anyone have anything else to try?

Thanks in advance
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Old 07-18-2016, 10:11 AM   #2
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Re: 6.0 oil pressure issue

If you have an accurate mechanical gauge plumbed into the factory sender port and it reads 10 PSI that is what you have. Just for additional confirmation you could try another mechanical gauge to be absolutely sure- but the two gauges you have read the same. HTH
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:10 PM   #3
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Re: 6.0 oil pressure issue

sounds like you may need some cam bearings
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Old 07-18-2016, 01:16 PM   #4
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Re: 6.0 oil pressure issue

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sounds like you may need some cam bearings
Do you think it's possible to replace the cam bearings with the engine still in the truck?
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Old 07-18-2016, 02:21 PM   #5
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Re: 6.0 oil pressure issue

225k is quite a bit but there is the chance you used the wrong o-ring for the pickup tube, or possibly even pinched it while installing it.
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Old 07-18-2016, 07:49 PM   #6
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Re: 6.0 oil pressure issue

Nothing to do with the oil pressure but did you change the bolts when you replaced that stuff on your list...i noticed you didnt list them...LS bolts are torque to yield one time use bolts..
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Old 07-19-2016, 08:31 AM   #7
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Re: 6.0 oil pressure issue

After thinking about this overnight, I tend to agree that is is very possible that the oil pickup to the pump seal is compromised. There are many many LS engines purring along with 225k on them
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Old 07-19-2016, 03:29 PM   #8
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After thinking about this overnight, I tend to agree that is is very possible that the oil pickup to the pump seal is compromised. There are many many LS engines purring along with 225k on them
We had the pan back off of it Saturday and triple checked the pick up tube and o-ring. It doesn't appear to me that it is compromised at all.
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Old 07-19-2016, 03:40 PM   #9
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Nothing to do with the oil pressure but did you change the bolts when you replaced that stuff on your list...i noticed you didnt list them...LS bolts are torque to yield one time use bolts..
I replaced the head bolts. Those were the only ones I knew that were torque to yield.
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I replaced the head bolts. Those were the only ones I knew that were torque to yield.
the harmonic balancer/pulley bolt is another that is often overlooked
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the harmonic balancer/pulley bolt is another that is often overlooked
I stand corrected, I also replaced the balancer bolt as well. Totally forgot about that one! What a PITA to get the old one loose!
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Re: 6.0 oil pressure issue

With hindsight being 20/20, I should've pulled the cam retainer plate while I had the front cover and timing chain off, pulled the cam and visually checked the bearings.
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Re: 6.0 oil pressure issue

The last oil pump I bought came with several pick up O rings. Make sure that you used the right one. They are very close in size and easy to confuse. Jay
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