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Krustyone · 12-31-2017, 10:42 PM

Anyone use their stuff for building a m2 and or 4 link setup? Trying to save some cash by doing it myself and it seems they have lots of stuff to build with. Any opinions good or bad ? Yes I searched and found nothing.

59chev · 12-31-2017, 11:12 PM

I can't speak to the quality yet, but I was planning on ordering one of their rear 4 link air ride kits and possible step notch when I get to that stage.

**mr48chev** · 01-01-2018, 12:40 AM

Their stuff is pretty well thought out and not too spendy. I have bought a bunch of gussets and small pieces from them but not anything large. Still it all depends on your or your buddy's welding skills.

dsraven · 01-01-2018, 12:43 AM

I have used their rear 4 link, panhard bracket and diff airbag brackets. they are good quality and welds etc look great. not sure on the mustangII stuff except for watching the youtube video. it sure looks simple enough with the way their stuff is laser cut with a small folding part left on the crease lines. if you know what you are doing and how the angles relate to each other then you could probably do well. oh ya, being a welder or knowing a welder would help for that assembly part of the crossmember.

**Advanced Design** · 01-01-2018, 09:29 AM

Krustyone, check out this build as he used several products from Welder series....
https://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vbo...d.php?t=653414

whitedog76 · 01-01-2018, 12:36 PM

I have an “Economy” crossmember coming from CPP. It was only $200 bucks, plus it comes with boxing plates. I believe it’s made by Heidts. I will post on the quality as soon as the Brown van shows up.

A company called “West Texas Plasma” makes DIY kits similar to Hortons, it looks like quality stuff.

I bought my control arms from Jegs, unfortunately they are made overseas. They seem to be quality items though. They only took 2 days to show up at my doorstep.

**mr48chev** · 01-01-2018, 02:26 PM

The main issue with those foreign made control arms is the quality of the ball joints.

I've got a Helix "universal" crossmember and control arms that I bought off Ebay from their Welder Joe back door outlet a few years ago in a moment of brain failure and a bad case of "gotta have now" and on that one the control arms look pretty stout. who ever ground the welds on the crossmeber ground clear though the welds in a couple of places though. That one will end up under a little roadster with a 130 hp 16 valve 4 banger in it.

whitedog76 · 01-01-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mr48chev

The main issue with those foreign made control arms is the quality of the ball joints.

I've got a Helix "universal" crossmember and control arms that I bought off Ebay from their Welder Joe back door outlet a few years ago in a moment of brain failure and a bad case of "gotta have now" and on that one the control arms look pretty stout. who ever ground the welds on the crossmeber ground clear though the welds in a couple of places though. That one will end up under a little roadster with a 130 hp 16 valve 4 banger in it.

The control arm tubing is a 9 gauge steel, should be plenty strong. As far as the ball joint goes, we’ll have to see. Swapping out for a Moog ball joint would be the safe bet, but they’ll work for now.

I have some different ideas on the IFS install, so we’ll see how it goes.

Mains52 · 01-01-2018, 06:22 PM

I’ve been wondering this same thing. Thanks OP

**mr48chev** · 01-01-2018, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitedog76

The control arm tubing is a 9 gauge steel, should be plenty strong. As far as the ball joint goes, we’ll have to see. Swapping out for a Moog ball joint would be the safe bet, but they’ll work for now.

I have some different ideas on the IFS install, so we’ll see how it goes.

When I go to use that front end I'll swap out the ball joints before it hits the road. That car is only going to weigh about 1400 lbs if that but I don't want a ball joint breaking.

The ones that break are usually where the outfit that built the A arms used upper ball joints as lowers as they are a few bucks cheaper.

bobinbc · 01-02-2018, 02:58 AM

I've used the Welders Series stuff in the past and it was well made and easy to figure out. Wouldn't hesitate to use it again in the future.

iowaboynca · 01-02-2018, 06:35 PM

I bought his M2 kit but paid the extra to have him weld it. I then had to install it. I was pretty impressed and his instructions on how to install were pretty straight forward. I'll go this route again if and when i get another project. I also ordered his kit when the Canadian dollar was $0.65 to the dollar so that was nice too.

Make sure to order the front C notch pieces for the rack and pinion too.

I then ordered the suspension parts from Speedway.

**Dieselwrencher** · 01-02-2018, 07:55 PM

I used Paul's MII cross member on my 40 Ford. All of their stuff is high quality, and their customer service is top notch. I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them. I have gotten a lot of stuff from them including sway bars for the car. Now to get it all put in. Haha

Mains52 · 01-04-2018, 05:33 PM

Found this today. thought maybe it'd help all of the guys on here like the both of us.
https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...classix-part-2

Krustyone · 01-04-2018, 05:44 PM

Thanks for the replies. Sounds like his stuff is good to go.

12-31-2017, 10:42 PM	#1
Krustyone Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Mesa az Posts: 41	Paul hortons welders series... Anyone use their stuff for building a m2 and or 4 link setup? Trying to save some cash by doing it myself and it seems they have lots of stuff to build with. Any opinions good or bad ? Yes I searched and found nothing.

12-31-2017, 11:12 PM	#2
59chev Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 441	Re: Paul hortons welders series... I can't speak to the quality yet, but I was planning on ordering one of their rear 4 link air ride kits and possible step notch when I get to that stage. __________________ My Build Thread: 59 Apache - Lifelong obsession http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=622133"]59 Apache - Lifelong obsession Last edited by 59chev; 12-31-2017 at 11:18 PM.

01-01-2018, 12:40 AM	#3
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,823	Re: Paul hortons welders series... Their stuff is pretty well thought out and not too spendy. I have bought a bunch of gussets and small pieces from them but not anything large. Still it all depends on your or your buddy's welding skills. __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

01-01-2018, 12:43 AM	#4
dsraven Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: calgary alberta Posts: 8,498	Re: Paul hortons welders series... I have used their rear 4 link, panhard bracket and diff airbag brackets. they are good quality and welds etc look great. not sure on the mustangII stuff except for watching the youtube video. it sure looks simple enough with the way their stuff is laser cut with a small folding part left on the crease lines. if you know what you are doing and how the angles relate to each other then you could probably do well. oh ya, being a welder or knowing a welder would help for that assembly part of the crossmember.

01-01-2018, 09:29 AM	#5
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,028	Re: Paul hortons welders series... Krustyone, check out this build as he used several products from Welder series.... https://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vbo...d.php?t=653414 __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

01-01-2018, 12:36 PM	#6
whitedog76 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 1,450	Re: Paul hortons welders series... I have an “Economy” crossmember coming from CPP. It was only $200 bucks, plus it comes with boxing plates. I believe it’s made by Heidts. I will post on the quality as soon as the Brown van shows up. A company called “West Texas Plasma” makes DIY kits similar to Hortons, it looks like quality stuff. I bought my control arms from Jegs, unfortunately they are made overseas. They seem to be quality items though. They only took 2 days to show up at my doorstep.

01-01-2018, 02:26 PM	#7
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,823	Re: Paul hortons welders series... The main issue with those foreign made control arms is the quality of the ball joints. I've got a Helix "universal" crossmember and control arms that I bought off Ebay from their Welder Joe back door outlet a few years ago in a moment of brain failure and a bad case of "gotta have now" and on that one the control arms look pretty stout. who ever ground the welds on the crossmeber ground clear though the welds in a couple of places though. That one will end up under a little roadster with a 130 hp 16 valve 4 banger in it. __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

01-01-2018, 06:22 PM	#9
Mains52 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Knoxville, Illinois Posts: 335	Re: Paul hortons welders series... I’ve been wondering this same thing. Thanks OP

01-02-2018, 02:58 AM	#11
bobinbc Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vancouver Island, Courtenay B.C. CANADA Posts: 578	Re: Paul hortons welders series... I've used the Welders Series stuff in the past and it was well made and easy to figure out. Wouldn't hesitate to use it again in the future. __________________ 1962 Chevy blue SBFS 1957 Chevy yellow SBSS 1956 GMC red SBSS Nov 2017 ToTM https://www.facebook.com/groups/Cana...geChevyTrucks/

01-02-2018, 06:35 PM	#12
iowaboynca Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: West Side of the valley, CA Posts: 878	Re: Paul hortons welders series... I bought his M2 kit but paid the extra to have him weld it. I then had to install it. I was pretty impressed and his instructions on how to install were pretty straight forward. I'll go this route again if and when i get another project. I also ordered his kit when the Canadian dollar was $0.65 to the dollar so that was nice too. Make sure to order the front C notch pieces for the rack and pinion too. I then ordered the suspension parts from Speedway. __________________ Build: "1950" GMC -Charlotte

01-02-2018, 07:55 PM	#13
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,143	Re: Paul hortons welders series... I used Paul's MII cross member on my 40 Ford. All of their stuff is high quality, and their customer service is top notch. I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them. I have gotten a lot of stuff from them including sway bars for the car. Now to get it all put in. Haha __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

01-04-2018, 05:33 PM	#14
Mains52 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Knoxville, Illinois Posts: 335	Re: Paul hortons welders series... Found this today. thought maybe it'd help all of the guys on here like the both of us. https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...classix-part-2

01-04-2018, 05:44 PM	#15
Krustyone Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Mesa az Posts: 41	Re: Paul hortons welders series... Thanks for the replies. Sounds like his stuff is good to go.



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