Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Hubscrub · 02-20-2018, 08:17 PM

I've had problems with my door in the trail fittings since i've replaced the rust in it. The bottom hing mount in the door was broke when i bought it so the door has been abused, hitting the fender etc. I took it off again and noticed the hinges where curved out the same direction that my door wants to stick out. Also i have installed new pins and bushings in the hinge.

**mongocanfly** · 02-20-2018, 08:33 PM

what do the pass side hinges look like?

dsraven · 02-20-2018, 08:35 PM

looking at the pics I would say yes, unless the pics are distorted somehow. mine were straight where they bolt to the door. you got nuthin to lose from heating them up and getting that part straight.

MARTINSR · 02-20-2018, 08:48 PM

Just remember, it takes a LOT to bend a hinge, the door is going to bend WAY before that hinge bends. So what is off, I can't tell you. But I would be looking at the pin in the hinge way before it being bent. And I would be looking at where that hinge bolts being bent before anything!

Brian

dsraven · 02-20-2018, 08:52 PM

great point martinsr, but it does look like the "bolt on" part of the hinge is not flat/straight. maybe a shadow thing or a distortion on the pic thing?
the lower hinge mount inside the door is a usual rusted out area on these trucks. may be a good place to check as well.

Hubscrub · 02-20-2018, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mongocanfly

what do the pass side hinges look like?

I haven't removed the pass. door yet. Its also against the wall so i've have to move alot to get it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsraven

looking at the pics I would say yes, unless the pics are distorted somehow. mine were straight where they bolt to the door. you got nuthin to lose from heating them up and getting that part straight.

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARTINSR

Just remember, it takes a LOT to bend a hinge, the door is going to bend WAY before that hinge bends. So what is off, I can't tell you. But I would be looking at the pin in the hinge way before it being bent. And I would be looking at where that hinge bolts being bent before anything!
Brian

Yes, i agree the door "front" forward facing area was pulled out like a bow away from the door i used a mallet and got it in some and it did help but haven't got the whole picture yet. I have alot to learn with body work. Thanks

Foot Stomper · 02-20-2018, 09:57 PM

I'd bet the A pillar is "tweaked" after ruling out pins and bushings. No way the hinges are bent unless there was a collision of gigantic proportions!

BIGglaSS · 02-20-2018, 10:45 PM

I just looked at a set on my workbench, and they are flat on the side that mounts to the door.

Softpatch · 02-20-2018, 11:06 PM

can't say put a straight edge on em
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_Ogre · 02-21-2018, 02:15 PM

door hitting fender is typical indication of bad front cab mounts causing the front of the cab to sag down
if you ever see pliers bent front door edge (cringe) it is for this reason
motor oil soaked after 60 years tends to soften rubber

rusted lower fender mount will also cause the fender bottom to ''relax''

another cause for front cab sag is removal of the trans x-member to install an automatic trans
that trans x-member also supports the front cab supports

_Ogre · 02-21-2018, 02:18 PM

try a block of wood and a floor jack under the front cab mount, jack up a little to see if the door clearance improves
ogre has never tried this method, just a suggestion for checking

Hubscrub · 02-21-2018, 06:39 PM

Thanks for all the replies they are definitely curved out not straight. I was thinking they should be, but not sure, so I asked. I will work on that and come back with my results.

MARTINSR · 02-22-2018, 01:21 AM

I think those hinges have a hole at the very back that may not be used as they were in the passenger car. Moving the very back of that hinge is very powerful. If you need to move the front of the door in and out, that is the magic point!

Brian

02-20-2018, 08:17 PM	#1
Hubscrub Cruzin Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: on the road Posts: 2,835	Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache I've had problems with my door in the trail fittings since i've replaced the rust in it. The bottom hing mount in the door was broke when i bought it so the door has been abused, hitting the fender etc. I took it off again and noticed the hinges where curved out the same direction that my door wants to stick out. Also i have installed new pins and bushings in the hinge. Attached Images __________________ Lime Wife's 67https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...wZEMODaS2d94u8 Back to the Fifties 59 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...NAeStpydfrcj_U Proverbs 3:5,6 "Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel across the country from coast to coast without seeing anything."Charles Kuralt In memory of our first baby daughter, daddy and mommy love you. Danica Grace 6/26/14

02-20-2018, 08:33 PM	#2
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02-20-2018, 08:35 PM	#3
dsraven Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: calgary alberta Posts: 8,333	Re: Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache looking at the pics I would say yes, unless the pics are distorted somehow. mine were straight where they bolt to the door. you got nuthin to lose from heating them up and getting that part straight.

02-20-2018, 08:48 PM	#4
MARTINSR Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 6,003	Re: Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache Just remember, it takes a LOT to bend a hinge, the door is going to bend WAY before that hinge bends. So what is off, I can't tell you. But I would be looking at the pin in the hinge way before it being bent. And I would be looking at where that hinge bolts being bent before anything! Brian __________________ 1948 Chevy pickup Chopped, Sectioned, 1953 Corvette 235 powered. Once was even 401 Buick mid engined with the carburetor right between the seats! Bought with paper route money in 1973 when I was 15. "Fan of most anything that moves human beings"

02-20-2018, 08:52 PM	#5
dsraven Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: calgary alberta Posts: 8,333	Re: Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache great point martinsr, but it does look like the "bolt on" part of the hinge is not flat/straight. maybe a shadow thing or a distortion on the pic thing? the lower hinge mount inside the door is a usual rusted out area on these trucks. may be a good place to check as well.

02-20-2018, 09:57 PM	#7
Foot Stomper Registered User Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 1,252	Re: Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache I'd bet the A pillar is "tweaked" after ruling out pins and bushings. No way the hinges are bent unless there was a collision of gigantic proportions! __________________ So when is this "Old enough to know better" supposed to kick in? My 1959 GMC build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=686989

02-20-2018, 10:45 PM	#8
BIGglaSS Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: ID Posts: 663	Re: Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache I just looked at a set on my workbench, and they are flat on the side that mounts to the door.

02-20-2018, 11:06 PM	#9
Softpatch Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Vashon WA Posts: 969	Re: Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache can't say put a straight edge on em . ...Pic could be distorded . . . __________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative' . . 1966 C-20 .....Swap 91 G-30(5.7 FI)/4L80E http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=789617 59 Viking Revival .. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632341

02-21-2018, 02:15 PM	#10
_Ogre Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Motown Posts: 7,680	Re: Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache door hitting fender is typical indication of bad front cab mounts causing the front of the cab to sag down if you ever see pliers bent front door edge (cringe) it is for this reason motor oil soaked after 60 years tends to soften rubber rusted lower fender mount will also cause the fender bottom to ''relax'' another cause for front cab sag is removal of the trans x-member to install an automatic trans that trans x-member also supports the front cab supports __________________ cool, an ogre smiley Ogre's 58 Truk build how to put your truck year and build thread into your signature shop air compressor timer

02-21-2018, 02:18 PM	#11
_Ogre Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Motown Posts: 7,680	Re: Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache try a block of wood and a floor jack under the front cab mount, jack up a little to see if the door clearance improves ogre has never tried this method, just a suggestion for checking __________________ cool, an ogre smiley Ogre's 58 Truk build how to put your truck year and build thread into your signature shop air compressor timer

02-21-2018, 06:39 PM	#12
Hubscrub Cruzin Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: on the road Posts: 2,835	Re: Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache Thanks for all the replies they are definitely curved out not straight. I was thinking they should be, but not sure, so I asked. I will work on that and come back with my results. __________________ Lime Wife's 67https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...wZEMODaS2d94u8 Back to the Fifties 59 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...NAeStpydfrcj_U Proverbs 3:5,6 "Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel across the country from coast to coast without seeing anything."Charles Kuralt In memory of our first baby daughter, daddy and mommy love you. Danica Grace 6/26/14

02-22-2018, 01:21 AM	#13
MARTINSR Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 6,003	Re: Are my door hinges bent? 59 apache I think those hinges have a hole at the very back that may not be used as they were in the passenger car. Moving the very back of that hinge is very powerful. If you need to move the front of the door in and out, that is the magic point! Brian __________________ 1948 Chevy pickup Chopped, Sectioned, 1953 Corvette 235 powered. Once was even 401 Buick mid engined with the carburetor right between the seats! Bought with paper route money in 1973 when I was 15. "Fan of most anything that moves human beings"



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