A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**Joerg** · 06-08-2018, 01:14 AM

Hello community,
I bought a 1961 Pick up here in Germany and need some informations and his name will be Paul, cause he survived this movie.

Paul (is a 2011 science-fiction road-comedy film)

It will arrive at this weekend.
What I know is the vin and here is the first question
vin: 1C154L113981
on the last title it is shown as a model 1960 but the vin says 61. That's maybe common but whats about the L= Los Angeles assembly plant code? Can anybody explain that? I can't find that L in any vin decoder.
Here are some pics.

Thank you for your help.

**sirJim** · 06-08-2018, 07:55 AM

Congratulations on your truck.
I couldent find an L on any of the decoders either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joerg

Hello community,
I bought a 1961 Pick up here in Germany and need some informations and his name will be Paul, cause he survived this movie.

Paul (is a 2011 science-fiction road-comedy film)

It will arrive at this weekend.
What I know is the vin and here is the first question
vin: 1C154L113981
on the last title it is shown as a model 1960 but the vin says 61. That's maybe common but whats about the L= Los Angeles assembly plant code? Can anybody explain that? I can't find that L in any vin decoder.
Here are some pics.

Thank you for your help.

**aerotruk63** · 06-08-2018, 08:01 AM

Wait till the truck arrives and check the VIN plate on the truck to see if both are the same.

**aerotruk63** · 06-08-2018, 08:02 AM

K and O are around L on the keyboard.

**Joerg** · 06-08-2018, 08:54 AM

Here's the VIN plate

**The Rocknrod** · 06-08-2018, 10:33 AM

http://www.vinwiz.com/1960-1964chevt...n=1C154L113991

jchav62 · 06-08-2018, 12:51 PM

My '62 is from the Los Angeles plant... has the "L" code.
According to the "1" in the vin and that grille it's a '61...

jchav62 · 06-08-2018, 12:53 PM

But the fender emblem in 1960..

**Joerg** · 06-08-2018, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rocknrod

http://www.vinwiz.com/1960-1964chevt...n=1C154L113991

Thx Rocknrod, I can't open that site, don't know why but I always get an error msg. (ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT)

Thank you

**Joerg** · 06-08-2018, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchav62

But the fender emblem in 1960..

That's a thing I don't understand too, the title shows 1960 too???
Maybe it's a mix.
But I can find a lot of pics with that 61 grille and the emblem on the lower side of the fender.
Maybe any board member knows more about that.

Thank you.

**Palf70Step** · 06-09-2018, 10:08 AM

I know some places use to use the year it was first registered and not necessarily the year the manufacture said it was. So a 1961 registered in say October 1960, the title would say 1960.

I don't know who, if any states do that now days. I know I have run across overseas (Japan), but nothing stateside.

**The Rocknrod** · 06-09-2018, 10:55 AM

I purchased a 2001 F150 in 2000, registered it in 2000 and title says 2001. VIN is everything.

**The Rocknrod** · 06-09-2018, 11:51 AM

Also, I was a licensed "vehicle verify-er" in California at one time. The people at the DMV do not always (mostly never) understand even the rule book they are supposed to work by. Many occasions I had to either get on the phone with a person at the DMV or go down there and show them in writing what they were doing incorrectly. Documentation on earlier vehicles is not their strong point. This truck's title is a California title which IMHO is the issue.
You can however request a correction to the title. Having your state or country local inspector verify what they see, the owner then requests a correction. I have done that from out of state. It was pretty quick too.

06-08-2018, 01:14 AM	#1
Joerg Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Lorsch - Germany Posts: 40	A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. Hello community, I bought a 1961 Pick up here in Germany and need some informations and his name will be Paul, cause he survived this movie. Paul (is a 2011 science-fiction road-comedy film) It will arrive at this weekend. What I know is the vin and here is the first question vin: 1C154L113981 on the last title it is shown as a model 1960 but the vin says 61. That's maybe common but whats about the L= Los Angeles assembly plant code? Can anybody explain that? I can't find that L in any vin decoder. Here are some pics. Thank you for your help. Attached Images

06-08-2018, 08:01 AM	#3
aerotruk63 Check The Champ, Demonstrator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 6,627	Re: A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. Wait till the truck arrives and check the VIN plate on the truck to see if both are the same. __________________ 1963 *Chevrolet Truck* Literature LINK: https://picasaweb.google.com/113840717762774560215 YouTube Channel with 20+ Original *Chevrolet Truck* Salesmen, Mechanics & Service Department Training Slideshows. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...otruk63&page=1

06-08-2018, 08:02 AM	#4
aerotruk63 Check The Champ, Demonstrator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 6,627	Re: A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. K and O are around L on the keyboard. __________________ 1963 *Chevrolet Truck* Literature LINK: https://picasaweb.google.com/113840717762774560215 YouTube Channel with 20+ Original *Chevrolet Truck* Salesmen, Mechanics & Service Department Training Slideshows. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...otruk63&page=1

06-08-2018, 08:54 AM	#5
Joerg Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Lorsch - Germany Posts: 40	Re: A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. Here's the VIN plate Attached Images

06-08-2018, 10:33 AM	#6
The Rocknrod Moderator Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: China Spring, TX Posts: 7,280	Re: A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. http://www.vinwiz.com/1960-1964chevt...n=1C154L113991 Attached Images __________________ Master Chief, US Navy, Retired 1964 C10 Step-side Short Bed - In Progress 2009 2500HD Duramax LTZ 1948 GMC Panel 1956 Big Window Stepside 1953 5 Window Chevy Stepside 1932 Coupe New Seat Foam for Bench Seats?

06-08-2018, 12:51 PM	#7
jchav62 1962 C-10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, New Mexico Posts: 4,978	Re: A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. My '62 is from the Los Angeles plant... has the "L" code. According to the "1" in the vin and that grille it's a '61... __________________ Joseph Chavez "See the USA in a Chevrolet!!" ......................_____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1962 C10 Shortbed Fleetside 327/th350 GV overdrive 1974 C10 Longbed Fleetside 350/th350 "The Trash Truck" 1999 Chevy 2500 OBS, Longbed 5.7/4L80E 4x4 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x4

06-08-2018, 12:53 PM	#8
jchav62 1962 C-10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, New Mexico Posts: 4,978	Re: A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. But the fender emblem in 1960.. __________________ Joseph Chavez "See the USA in a Chevrolet!!" ......................_____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1962 C10 Shortbed Fleetside 327/th350 GV overdrive 1974 C10 Longbed Fleetside 350/th350 "The Trash Truck" 1999 Chevy 2500 OBS, Longbed 5.7/4L80E 4x4 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x4

06-09-2018, 10:08 AM	#11
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 47,221	Re: A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. I know some places use to use the year it was first registered and not necessarily the year the manufacture said it was. So a 1961 registered in say October 1960, the title would say 1960. I don't know who, if any states do that now days. I know I have run across overseas (Japan), but nothing stateside. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God! Last edited by Palf70Step; 06-09-2018 at 04:44 PM.

06-09-2018, 10:55 AM	#12
The Rocknrod Moderator Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: China Spring, TX Posts: 7,280	Re: A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. I purchased a 2001 F150 in 2000, registered it in 2000 and title says 2001. VIN is everything. __________________ Master Chief, US Navy, Retired 1964 C10 Step-side Short Bed - In Progress 2009 2500HD Duramax LTZ 1948 GMC Panel 1956 Big Window Stepside 1953 5 Window Chevy Stepside 1932 Coupe New Seat Foam for Bench Seats?

06-09-2018, 11:51 AM	#13
The Rocknrod Moderator Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: China Spring, TX Posts: 7,280	Re: A survivor in Germany, 1961 Pickup and a lot of questions. Also, I was a licensed "vehicle verify-er" in California at one time. The people at the DMV do not always (mostly never) understand even the rule book they are supposed to work by. Many occasions I had to either get on the phone with a person at the DMV or go down there and show them in writing what they were doing incorrectly. Documentation on earlier vehicles is not their strong point. This truck's title is a California title which IMHO is the issue. You can however request a correction to the title. Having your state or country local inspector verify what they see, the owner then requests a correction. I have done that from out of state. It was pretty quick too. __________________ Master Chief, US Navy, Retired 1964 C10 Step-side Short Bed - In Progress 2009 2500HD Duramax LTZ 1948 GMC Panel 1956 Big Window Stepside 1953 5 Window Chevy Stepside 1932 Coupe New Seat Foam for Bench Seats?



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