Any experience with quick ratio steering gear boxes? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

The Pitt · 08-22-2018, 08:38 AM

So far I'm seeing my options are AGR, CPP, and one from POL. Does anybody have any input on any of these?

AGR is the most expensive by a mile but I'm sure a quality piece. The CPP seems popular but I don't really like the looks of their billet engraved cap. The POL looks just right and priced similarly to the CPP but I haven't found any reviews or anybody actually using one.

Am I missing any other good/better options?

Bird dog · 08-22-2018, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pitt

So far I'm seeing my options are AGR, CPP, and one from POL. Does anybody have any input on any of these?

AGR is the most expensive by a mile but I'm sure a quality piece. The CPP seems popular but I don't really like the looks of their billet engraved cap. The POL looks just right and priced similarly to the CPP but I haven't found any reviews or anybody actually using one.

Am I missing any other good/better options?

The billet on the CPP unit is actually not the cap, its an optional cover over the cap. You dont need to install it if you dont want. It comes loose in the box.

68 P.O.S. · 08-22-2018, 10:46 AM

You're missing RedHead Steering Gears https://www.redheadsteeringgears.com/ They have a great reputation and are known for being one of the best. They'll even rebuild your old one if you want and make it quick ratio as well.

UniqueOdyssey68 · 08-22-2018, 11:34 AM

I got mine from ECE a couple years ago. They're quality built units. I'd recommend that or go with CPP, since haven't heard of any issues with either.

davepl · 08-22-2018, 11:10 PM

I just had Redhead rebuilt my variable ratio box (which they said was pretty rare) in my 2+2. Though I haven't actually -driven- the car yet, I was impressed by their level of knowledge at least!

best view · 08-23-2018, 06:35 AM

this is easy jerry at the old truck shop taught me this ,take yours out go to auto zone or similar place tell them its out of 75 truck looks exacly the same as the 72 done this 5 times what a difference ken

72LB · 08-23-2018, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by best view

this is easy jerry at the old truck shop taught me this ,take yours out go to auto zone or similar place tell them its out of 75 truck looks exacly the same as the 72 done this 5 times what a difference ken

Did the same on my 69 big difference.

71GreenJunk · 08-24-2018, 11:25 PM

Ive had some cars with F41 suspension packages. Usually that includes a quick ratio steering box, stiffer springs, and thicker anti-sway bars. Anything I own will get it at some point. Had an '84 Monte Carlo SS, great car especially when compared to the base model. Huge difference between the two. Though slow and no corner carver, an SS felt like a performance car while the base model steered like a tractor. To me it makes a huge difference in the vehicle. For my '71 c10 I'm looking at the CPP kit.
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**BIG ORANGE** · 08-27-2018, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 72LB

Did the same on my 69 big difference.

Kinda odd, but the 72 and the 75 have the same part#s
must just be the difference between old wore out box verse's a new reman.

bill3rail · 08-27-2018, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by best view

this is easy jerry at the old truck shop taught me this ,take yours out go to auto zone or similar place tell them its out of 75 truck looks exacly the same as the 72 done this 5 times what a difference ken

Too bad steering boxes are so expensive. I would be doing this if they were not $180.00 up to $330.00!

Bill

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Originally Posted by BIG ORANGE

Kinda odd, but the 72 and the 75 have the same part#s
must just be the difference between old wore out box verse's a new reman.

I would imagine if the P/N's are the same then if you get a rebuilt for a 67-72 truck it would be a quick ratio box.

72LB · 08-28-2018, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG ORANGE

Kinda odd, but the 72 and the 75 have the same part#s
must just be the difference between old wore out box verse's a new reman.

Not really wore out but my 69's box was leaking so rather than rebuild opted to replace. While looking up prices I found several threads on replacing it with one from a 75 truck improving the steering.

67 chevelle · 08-28-2018, 08:01 AM

I have had a CPP box , it was good [very expensive ] , and a stock 78 box . I like the feel and drivability of the stock 78 box better [ its 1/4 the price .

68Stepbed · 08-28-2018, 08:35 AM

73-up boxes are variable ratio. 67-72 boxes are fixed ratio, which happens to be a wide ratio at that. I swapped out my 72 box for a box from a 76, and it made a huge difference!!

Watch these two videos to see how much I'm working the steering wheel around corners.

Stock 72 wide fixed ratio steering box...

You Tube

Stock 76 variable ratio box...

You Tube

Rich69shortfleet · 08-28-2018, 08:42 AM

Avoid the AGR boxes at all cost. The ratios they offer are great, the build quality (internal) is abysmal and their customer service is severely lacking.

CRUSH2.0 · 08-28-2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 72LB

Not really wore out but my 69's box was leaking so rather than rebuild opted to replace. While looking up prices I found several threads on replacing it with one from a 75 truck improving the steering.

Did you buy new or used? Easy to install?

72LB · 08-28-2018, 11:13 AM

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Did you buy new or used? Easy to install?

Got a really good deal on a new one from a friend. Installation was a awkward but easy swap.

Threerun · 08-28-2018, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by davepl

I just had Redhead rebuilt my variable ratio box (which they said was pretty rare) in my 2+2. Though I haven't actually -driven- the car yet, I was impressed by their level of knowledge at least!

I bought a redhead to replace my worn out one and they are fantastic.

CRUSH2.0 · 08-28-2018, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Threerun

I bought a redhead to replace my worn out one and they are fantastic.

My understanding is they will rebuild yours as well.

08-22-2018, 08:38 AM	#1
The Pitt Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 36	Any experience with quick ratio steering gear boxes? So far I'm seeing my options are AGR, CPP, and one from POL. Does anybody have any input on any of these? AGR is the most expensive by a mile but I'm sure a quality piece. The CPP seems popular but I don't really like the looks of their billet engraved cap. The POL looks just right and priced similarly to the CPP but I haven't found any reviews or anybody actually using one. Am I missing any other good/better options?

08-22-2018, 10:46 AM	#3
68 P.O.S. Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 1,662	Re: Any experience with quick ratio steering gear boxes? You're missing RedHead Steering Gears https://www.redheadsteeringgears.com/ They have a great reputation and are known for being one of the best. They'll even rebuild your old one if you want and make it quick ratio as well. __________________ 72 C10 lwb fleetside -stock 350/350 combo

08-22-2018, 11:34 AM	#4
UniqueOdyssey68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Idaho Posts: 73	Re: Any experience with quick ratio steering gear boxes? I got mine from ECE a couple years ago. They're quality built units. I'd recommend that or go with CPP, since haven't heard of any issues with either. __________________ - long term project '68 C10 true shortbed! Resto-mod. LS swap. Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=769919 "I've still kept this project truck when anyone else would've given up and sold it as is. Giving up is easy, staying the course is part of life's journey" ___________________________________________ '68 C10 true shortbed, LS swap restomod. '03 Z71 daily, '63 AMC Rambler V8 survivor

08-22-2018, 11:10 PM	#5
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,334	Re: Any experience with quick ratio steering gear boxes? I just had Redhead rebuilt my variable ratio box (which they said was pretty rare) in my 2+2. Though I haven't actually -driven- the car yet, I was impressed by their level of knowledge at least! __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible

08-23-2018, 06:35 AM	#6
best view Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: newbury new hampsire Posts: 2,166	Re: Any experience with quick ratio steering gear boxes? this is easy jerry at the old truck shop taught me this ,take yours out go to auto zone or similar place tell them its out of 75 truck looks exacly the same as the 72 done this 5 times what a difference ken

08-24-2018, 11:25 PM	#8
71GreenJunk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Cave City, KY Posts: 33	Re: Any experience with quick ratio steering gear boxes? Ive had some cars with F41 suspension packages. Usually that includes a quick ratio steering box, stiffer springs, and thicker anti-sway bars. Anything I own will get it at some point. Had an '84 Monte Carlo SS, great car especially when compared to the base model. Huge difference between the two. Though slow and no corner carver, an SS felt like a performance car while the base model steered like a tractor. To me it makes a huge difference in the vehicle. For my '71 c10 I'm looking at the CPP kit. Posted via Mobile Device

08-28-2018, 08:01 AM	#12
67 chevelle Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: WEST PALM FLORIDA Posts: 1,174	Re: Any experience with quick ratio steering gear boxes? I have had a CPP box , it was good [very expensive ] , and a stock 78 box . I like the feel and drivability of the stock 78 box better [ its 1/4 the price . __________________ 68 Long Fleet , ly6 , turbo 350 , 3-5 drop , original paint , front discs 67 Small window , 7 foot bed , tweaked 6.0 LSX 2004R Medium Olive 58 Apache fleet , 235 , offy intake , dual exhaust , 4 on the floor , red/white 69 Long Fleet , Custom , 6.0, 4l60 , AC , Medium Olive

08-28-2018, 08:42 AM	#14
Rich69shortfleet Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Waverly, NE Posts: 399	Re: Any experience with quick ratio steering gear boxes? Avoid the AGR boxes at all cost. The ratios they offer are great, the build quality (internal) is abysmal and their customer service is severely lacking. __________________ 1965 Malibu SS L79 Restoration Page 1965 Two-Door Wagon Project Progress Page 2006 Pontiac GTO Preservation Project Rich Cummings



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