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sam's 72 · 03-20-2002, 10:14 PM

Ok guys, I went to talk with a tranny guy today, now tell me which way would you go, and think about how much these trannys cost to rebuild every time they blow up! I can either go with a TH350 with the 1st and 2nd gear changed out to lower gears, with a 3:23 rear gear it would pull out the gate like it had a set of 4:45 gears in the back, then in 3rd I would have a 3:23 gear 1 to 1, or go with a 700r4 with 4;11 or 4:56, now I am stuped on which one to go with, the 700 is so tempermental, and the cost is a lot more when they burn up, that is the down side to the 700 now the th350, I dont know what the difference it would be in gas mileage going with a 3:23 rear gear with lower 1st and 2nd gear changed out in the th350, I can get a 700r4 for $ 500, with stock converter, or have my th350 rebuilt builit proof for $ 750 and thats with a 2200 stahl converter, tell me what you guy think?
I know I know I keep asking about these 700r4s but man I just am very very undecided with this, I like the ideasl of a th350 with the lower gears installed and running a 3:23 rear gear.
sam

slam33 · 03-20-2002, 10:24 PM

Spend the money on a great 700r4 from Art Carr or B&M or go with a 350 or 400 and the money you save now will get spent on gas in about 2 yrs. Your only going to pick up about 3 to 5 mpg. On a tank that might get you 100 miles more and the cost is about $7 or $8. The 700r4 is going to run you around $700 to $800 more than a good 350 or 400. So your looking at 100 trips to the pump before it all works out even.

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mtdave2 · 03-20-2002, 10:37 PM

only 2 things you have to know about 700r4...
1. spend the money and get the absoult best one you can, pay to have it set up right do everything thing perfect.

2. stay away from the piles of crap unless you can afford to do #1

*Fast68Chevy* · 03-20-2002, 10:44 PM

another alternative would be to have .70 ratio final drive gear installed in a 3 or 4 speed tranny, GMC Paul had this done in a 3 speed, hehe

Longhorn Man · 03-20-2002, 11:56 PM

I'd go with the Th350 myself.

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**68SWB4x4** · 03-21-2002, 03:17 AM

now i didnt do the math to check but my guess is with 3:23 gears and a 1:1 ratio the rpms will be pretty dang close to a .70 ratio with a 4:11 or 4:56 ratio

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Reumster · 03-21-2002, 08:19 AM

It really all depends on what the primary use of your truck will be. Do you plan on just driving this thing every once in awhile? Do you plan of using it for racing? Do you plan on takeing road trips in it? All things that would play a factor for me. If I where building a truck to drive on weekends, and just cruse town in, and didn't have a bunch of money I'd get a 400, but if I where going to race and cruse town on the week ends and didn't have alot of money I'd go with a 350T beefed up a bit. But if I where going to take road trips use it as a everyday driver, and race it I'd definately use a beefed 700R4.

So really you need to tell us what the primary use will be to give a real educated answer. Just my thoughts.

I love my 700R4 wouldn't trade it for nothing(but a JET 4L80E! LOL) They are not piles of crap either, if they where so so bad GM would have recalled them.. period! They've been put in many years of trucks and Camaros and Vetts, so how bad could they be? All just my thoughts. But I'm a uneducated looser!

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mtdave2 · 03-21-2002, 10:42 AM

here is my long horn, think it runs about 3200k at 75. works great for me,i know that trany is bullet proof. no mods, im happy.

now i have tall tires and i think 373 rear end, seems a bit lower than that but i dont think the c20 long horn came with any lower gear number.

BurbManiak · 03-21-2002, 01:08 PM

The only problem I have had with my 700 is blowing up the output shaft, but that was because it was a defective unit from advance adapters, and they sent me a new one. Just haven't had any problems with mine even though I do whomp on the thing quite a bit.

sam's 72 · 03-21-2002, 03:32 PM

I will be driveing the truck almost every day, I drive it to work everyday now, I work shift work, 4 on and 4 off, I dont have time this week to get over and talk to the guy that built the 700r4, I am going to get with him next week, I wish I wouldn't of had so much bad luck with the 700 in the past, this is what has me very very lerry about this tranny, that is why I lean harder on the th350 with the lower 1st and 2nd gear, running a higher rearend gear, I think the rpms in the end would be close to the same, and with the lower gears, in the th350 comming out the gate would be the sake as 700 with 4:11s, and I know that the th350 will hold up to almost any thing. so any way, I am going to go talk with the guy next week, see just how well built the 700 really is, before I make this choice, I know I need to make it soon, the truck is down!
Sam

Gordo · 03-21-2002, 04:34 PM

IMO I would go with the 700R4. I've used both in my truck and I have no complaints with the 700R4.

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meathead95 · 03-21-2002, 04:45 PM

Im going with a 700r4 in my 4x4 when that time comes. (this summer)

03-20-2002, 10:24 PM	#2
slam33 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Long Beach, Ca Posts: 1,432	Spend the money on a great 700r4 from Art Carr or B&M or go with a 350 or 400 and the money you save now will get spent on gas in about 2 yrs. Your only going to pick up about 3 to 5 mpg. On a tank that might get you 100 miles more and the cost is about $7 or $8. The 700r4 is going to run you around $700 to $800 more than a good 350 or 400. So your looking at 100 trips to the pump before it all works out even. ------------------ 71 basic C-10 350. The only option is the rust.No nothing on it, but thats all about to change. <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/stevemau/slam33page.html?1004806705410 " TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/stevemau/slam33page.html?1004806705410 </A> __________________ 71 LWB 350/350still working on it but it's going tp be sweet. www.geocities.com/stevemau/slam33page.html " TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/stevemau/slam33page.html?1004806705410 </A>

03-20-2002, 10:37 PM	#3
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,521	only 2 things you have to know about 700r4... 1. spend the money and get the absoult best one you can, pay to have it set up right do everything thing perfect. 2. stay away from the piles of crap unless you can afford to do #1 __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

03-21-2002, 03:17 AM	#6
68SWB4x4 Strongman Garage Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 10,241	now i didnt do the math to check but my guess is with 3:23 gears and a 1:1 ratio the rpms will be pretty dang close to a .70 ratio with a 4:11 or 4:56 ratio ------------------ My Truck pictures www.xframeimpala.com 68 4x4 short fleetside 327 CH465 edelbrock intake and carb MSD distributor its the "SHAGROLET" 56 big window short stepside 235 dual 1 brls 64ImpalaSS 327 70 C10 LWB fleetside custom/10 350/TH350 IM me on aol SN= SHAGROLET __________________ Kalle 68 GMC Suburban 1500 4x4 SOLD 69 Pontiac Lemans 99 Silverado 4.8 5 speed ECSB [ Facebook Instagram Subscribe on YOUTUBE

03-21-2002, 08:19 AM	#7
Reumster L.E.D. Freak Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Polson MT Posts: 1,358	It really all depends on what the primary use of your truck will be. Do you plan on just driving this thing every once in awhile? Do you plan of using it for racing? Do you plan on takeing road trips in it? All things that would play a factor for me. If I where building a truck to drive on weekends, and just cruse town in, and didn't have a bunch of money I'd get a 400, but if I where going to race and cruse town on the week ends and didn't have alot of money I'd go with a 350T beefed up a bit. But if I where going to take road trips use it as a everyday driver, and race it I'd definately use a beefed 700R4. So really you need to tell us what the primary use will be to give a real educated answer. Just my thoughts. I love my 700R4 wouldn't trade it for nothing(but a JET 4L80E! LOL) They are not piles of crap either, if they where so so bad GM would have recalled them.. period! They've been put in many years of trucks and Camaros and Vetts, so how bad could they be? All just my thoughts. But I'm a uneducated looser! ------------------ 1972 2wd Blazer, 350/700R4/3:73 posi/NOS. Power is nothing without control! __________________ Specializing in Custom L.E.D. inserts. http://www.ccled.com/ Contact me @ blazer2wd1972@hotmail.com (406)675-8082 or Joel @ jmcwaters@eps-corp.net 1972 2wd Blazer, 350/700R4/3:73 posi, err & Custom L.E.D. inserts! LOL

03-21-2002, 10:42 AM	#8
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,521	here is my long horn, think it runs about 3200k at 75. works great for me,i know that trany is bullet proof. no mods, im happy. now i have tall tires and i think 373 rear end, seems a bit lower than that but i dont think the c20 long horn came with any lower gear number. __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

03-20-2002, 10:14 PM	#1
sam's 72 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Pasadena, Texas, USA Posts: 1,005	700r4 continues! GOT QUESTIOS AGAIN???? Ok guys, I went to talk with a tranny guy today, now tell me which way would you go, and think about how much these trannys cost to rebuild every time they blow up! I can either go with a TH350 with the 1st and 2nd gear changed out to lower gears, with a 3:23 rear gear it would pull out the gate like it had a set of 4:45 gears in the back, then in 3rd I would have a 3:23 gear 1 to 1, or go with a 700r4 with 4;11 or 4:56, now I am stuped on which one to go with, the 700 is so tempermental, and the cost is a lot more when they burn up, that is the down side to the 700 now the th350, I dont know what the difference it would be in gas mileage going with a 3:23 rear gear with lower 1st and 2nd gear changed out in the th350, I can get a 700r4 for $ 500, with stock converter, or have my th350 rebuilt builit proof for $ 750 and thats with a 2200 stahl converter, tell me what you guy think? I know I know I keep asking about these 700r4s but man I just am very very undecided with this, I like the ideasl of a th350 with the lower gears installed and running a 3:23 rear gear. sam __________________ 72 LWB chevy truck. Pasadena, Texas

03-20-2002, 10:44 PM	#4
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	another alternative would be to have .70 ratio final drive gear installed in a 3 or 4 speed tranny, GMC Paul had this done in a 3 speed, hehe

03-20-2002, 11:56 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	I'd go with the Th350 myself. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon. Thanks every one! Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio

03-21-2002, 01:08 PM	#9
BurbManiak Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5	The only problem I have had with my 700 is blowing up the output shaft, but that was because it was a defective unit from advance adapters, and they sent me a new one. Just haven't had any problems with mine even though I do whomp on the thing quite a bit. __________________ 1970 Chevy Burb ongoing resto daily driver. New project: 70ish fuel injected 454 short wheel base 88-98 stepside bed killer. www.geocities.com/poobier

03-21-2002, 03:32 PM	#10
sam's 72 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Pasadena, Texas, USA Posts: 1,005	I will be driveing the truck almost every day, I drive it to work everyday now, I work shift work, 4 on and 4 off, I dont have time this week to get over and talk to the guy that built the 700r4, I am going to get with him next week, I wish I wouldn't of had so much bad luck with the 700 in the past, this is what has me very very lerry about this tranny, that is why I lean harder on the th350 with the lower 1st and 2nd gear, running a higher rearend gear, I think the rpms in the end would be close to the same, and with the lower gears, in the th350 comming out the gate would be the sake as 700 with 4:11s, and I know that the th350 will hold up to almost any thing. so any way, I am going to go talk with the guy next week, see just how well built the 700 really is, before I make this choice, I know I need to make it soon, the truck is down! Sam __________________ 72 LWB chevy truck. Pasadena, Texas

03-21-2002, 04:34 PM	#11
Gordo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Killingworth, CT. USA Posts: 3,378	IMO I would go with the 700R4. I've used both in my truck and I have no complaints with the 700R4. ------------------ 1971 C10 swb stepside 350/700R4/3.73posi Killingworth, Connecticut __________________ 1971 C10 swb stepside 350/700R4/3.73posi (retired as of 4/22/03) 1998 S10 short bed 2002 S10 Blazer 1942 Oldsmobile 1958 Massey Harris Pony 1951 Wife Killingworth, Connecticut May those who love us, love us, any of those who do not love us, may God turn their hearts. And if God is unable to turn their hearts, may he turn their ankles so we may know them by their limping. A man who works with his hands is a laborer; a man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman; but a man who works with his hands and his brain and his heart is an artist.

03-21-2002, 04:45 PM	#12
meathead95 computer illiterate Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 6,440	Im going with a 700r4 in my 4x4 when that time comes. (this summer) __________________ 72 2wd blazer 72 swb 4x4



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