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70c10 · 04-13-2005, 05:23 PM

I just picked my truck up from the tranny shop. I had my Demon carb tuned by a well known local racer recently. I had it out of whack playing with it. No more burning eyes now!. Anyway he said the lack of power (basically like riding in 3rd gear constantly) was due to the tranny not downshifting and told me to see the guy who builds his trannies. I figure if he has a 7 second car he knows his stuff. Anyway the guy at the tranny shop was real cool and it turns out the kickdown cable was broke AND it was actually too long so he put a new one on. Now with everything dialed in it's sooooooo much fun to drive!. He said I should go with a tight 2500 verter so that will probably be next on my to do list. Just though I would share my happiness today!

*screamin_c102* · 04-13-2005, 05:26 PM

Congrats, glad ya got all the bugs worked out.

70c10 · 04-13-2005, 05:31 PM

Thanks man!- I migh thave to steal your user name because that's what my truck is now,LOL.

*screamin_c102* · 04-13-2005, 05:33 PM

screamin_c10...the sequel or screamin_c10 episode II the Chevy menace.

Longhorn Man · 04-13-2005, 06:06 PM

It was in 3rd all the time???
I drove for 2 1/22 years with no cable at all...we cut it off at the bottom and sealed the housing shut, it would start in first, and go to third like normal...it'd shift a little early, but I worked around that. Other than that..it just wouldn't kick down.

70 shorty · 04-13-2005, 09:26 PM

I drove my 71 Cutlass for many years without the kickdown working. I just manually downshifted it. Of course it helped that it was a console shifter. I kinda liked it though because it had a lot of torque so it didn't need to downshift to speed up. I only downshifted it if I was really getting on it.

70c10 · 04-13-2005, 09:36 PM

Andy- it was shifting way to soon and would not downshift at all.
70 shorty- I have a ratchet shifter so I could shift it manually to hold the gear longer. I adjusted the modulator to delay the shifts but with the kickdown working it's awesome. It feels like a double pumper with the throttle response. The cable that was replaced had a broken clip and was too long. This new one is a different type!

CHEVIBUBBA · 04-13-2005, 11:31 PM

if you go with a higher stall 'verter, be sure & install a BIG tranny cooler!
heat kills trannies & high stall 'verters make LOTS of heat.
curious if your th350 has lockup capabilities?
if it does, get a lockup 'verter for it.you'll be much better off in the gas/dependability departments.
here is a link to the best: http://www.converter.com/vigilante.htm
they make some of these you can run wot while locked up!
these are kinda pricey but competitave & definately worth it!
worth one full second on some cars/trucks!

bjohn3x · 04-14-2005, 02:27 AM

Hey 70c10, I have a speed demon 650 that I am just running as it came out of the box, do you see any differences now that it is tuned? Did you have to buy any parts for him to tune it?

70c10 · 04-14-2005, 04:13 AM

Chevibubba- my tranny is not a lockup. I am planning to have one custom made for my truck that is efficient(less heat). I will ask the guy I'm getting it from about the cooler.
Thanks
bjohn3x- I see a major difference!. I wish I was a carb tuner but I'm not. The guy who tuned my truck has gone 180 MPH in his race car. I didn't need any extra parts for what he did. (Basic tuning). When you get your speed demon dialed in, you are going to love it!

SweetandLong68 · 04-14-2005, 04:56 AM

I would have to disagree....

ATI Treemaster converters are the best!

http://www.atiperformanceproducts.co...c/tmasterp.htm

lata
CHRIS

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEVIBUBBA

if you go with a higher stall 'verter, be sure & install a BIG tranny cooler!
heat kills trannies & high stall 'verters make LOTS of heat.
curious if your th350 has lockup capabilities?
if it does, get a lockup 'verter for it.you'll be much better off in the gas/dependability departments.
here is a link to the best: http://www.converter.com/vigilante.htm
they make some of these you can run wot while locked up!
these are kinda pricey but competitave & definately worth it!
worth one full second on some cars/trucks!

70c10 · 04-14-2005, 07:26 AM

My buddy is running a Big ATI and loves it. bigjimz111 has recommended Oldani Motorsports several times on this board and that's who I'll be going with. The guy there is very knowledgable.

SweetandLong68 · 04-14-2005, 11:56 PM

My buddy has a Treemaster ATI converter in his 70 Camaro. 7.10 in the 1/8th and then be able to drive it on the street even as a daily driver if he wanted to. Which he did do that for a while...

Here it is...This pic is on Fluidampr's website as well...He runs a sweet fluidampr on his car and they put his pic on the website...

lata
CHRIS

cableguy0 · 04-15-2005, 12:52 AM

jim your going to want the biggest tranny cooler you can get. believe me with a stall convertor running around town things will get a bit warm in the summer time. i will show ya the one im running next time you stop over its almost the size of the radiator core

04-13-2005, 05:23 PM	#1
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	A night and day difference!- mystery solved I just picked my truck up from the tranny shop. I had my Demon carb tuned by a well known local racer recently. I had it out of whack playing with it. No more burning eyes now!. Anyway he said the lack of power (basically like riding in 3rd gear constantly) was due to the tranny not downshifting and told me to see the guy who builds his trannies. I figure if he has a 7 second car he knows his stuff. Anyway the guy at the tranny shop was real cool and it turns out the kickdown cable was broke AND it was actually too long so he put a new one on. Now with everything dialed in it's sooooooo much fun to drive!. He said I should go with a tight 2500 verter so that will probably be next on my to do list. Just though I would share my happiness today! __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

04-13-2005, 05:26 PM	#2
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	Congrats, glad ya got all the bugs worked out. Last edited by screamin_c102; 04-13-2005 at 05:34 PM.

04-13-2005, 05:31 PM	#3
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	Thanks man!- I migh thave to steal your user name because that's what my truck is now,LOL. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

04-13-2005, 09:26 PM	#6
70 shorty Where's my beer? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glen Allen, VA Posts: 1,772	I drove my 71 Cutlass for many years without the kickdown working. I just manually downshifted it. Of course it helped that it was a console shifter. I kinda liked it though because it had a lot of torque so it didn't need to downshift to speed up. I only downshifted it if I was really getting on it. __________________ 70 C10, shortstep, .30 over 250,Hurst shifted 3 spd parts hauler. Holley 390, Clifford Intake, Header, ported cylinder head, unknown bigger cam. 79 Corvette L82, 4 spd, black, red interior, headers, flowmasters, and unkown bigger cam. '03 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 4x4 daily driver. 165K miles, and runs great '08 Tahoe LTZ 4x4 155K

04-13-2005, 09:36 PM	#7
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	Andy- it was shifting way to soon and would not downshift at all. 70 shorty- I have a ratchet shifter so I could shift it manually to hold the gear longer. I adjusted the modulator to delay the shifts but with the kickdown working it's awesome. It feels like a double pumper with the throttle response. The cable that was replaced had a broken clip and was too long. This new one is a different type! __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

04-13-2005, 05:33 PM	#4
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	screamin_c10...the sequel or screamin_c10 episode II the Chevy menace.

04-13-2005, 06:06 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	It was in 3rd all the time??? I drove for 2 1/22 years with no cable at all...we cut it off at the bottom and sealed the housing shut, it would start in first, and go to third like normal...it'd shift a little early, but I worked around that. Other than that..it just wouldn't kick down.

04-13-2005, 11:31 PM	#8
CHEVIBUBBA got boost? Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 123	if you go with a higher stall 'verter, be sure & install a BIG tranny cooler! heat kills trannies & high stall 'verters make LOTS of heat. curious if your th350 has lockup capabilities? if it does, get a lockup 'verter for it.you'll be much better off in the gas/dependability departments. here is a link to the best: http://www.converter.com/vigilante.htm they make some of these you can run wot while locked up! these are kinda pricey but competitave & definately worth it! worth one full second on some cars/trucks! __________________ '70 chevy lwb w/'67 hood. 357 s.b.c. built, 4l60 w/vigilante lockup high stall converter, edelbrock pro-flo,brodix heads,comp cams rollerized w/ belt drive, one piece d-shaft, yada, yada, yada..... '82 honda v45 sabre"the black"

04-14-2005, 02:27 AM	#9
bjohn3x Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 49	Hey 70c10, I have a speed demon 650 that I am just running as it came out of the box, do you see any differences now that it is tuned? Did you have to buy any parts for him to tune it? __________________ 1969 Chevy 1/2T SWB w/515HP 383, Viper 6 speed (.50 OVERDRIVE BABY!), 3.73 POSI rear 1965 Mustang w/367HP 289, 5 speed, 4.11 coming

04-14-2005, 04:13 AM	#10
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	Chevibubba- my tranny is not a lockup. I am planning to have one custom made for my truck that is efficient(less heat). I will ask the guy I'm getting it from about the cooler. Thanks bjohn3x- I see a major difference!. I wish I was a carb tuner but I'm not. The guy who tuned my truck has gone 180 MPH in his race car. I didn't need any extra parts for what he did. (Basic tuning). When you get your speed demon dialed in, you are going to love it! __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

04-14-2005, 07:26 AM	#12
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	My buddy is running a Big ATI and loves it. bigjimz111 has recommended Oldani Motorsports several times on this board and that's who I'll be going with. The guy there is very knowledgable. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

04-14-2005, 11:56 PM	#13
SweetandLong68 Your UncleBen Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Indian Trail, NC Posts: 590	My buddy has a Treemaster ATI converter in his 70 Camaro. 7.10 in the 1/8th and then be able to drive it on the street even as a daily driver if he wanted to. Which he did do that for a while... Here it is...This pic is on Fluidampr's website as well...He runs a sweet fluidampr on his car and they put his pic on the website... lata CHRIS Attached Images __________________ 68 C10 shortbed -- Street/Strip

04-15-2005, 12:52 AM	#14
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,948	jim your going to want the biggest tranny cooler you can get. believe me with a stall convertor running around town things will get a bit warm in the summer time. i will show ya the one im running next time you stop over its almost the size of the radiator core __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.



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