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fade94 · 04-22-2005, 09:01 AM

I bought a 83 truck for my son. The guy that we got it from was making a race truck out of it. Luckily we got it before he started modifying the truck, but after he did the motor and tranny. Motor is a 355, 10.5-1 pistons, 268 cam, Edelbrock Torker II intake, Holley carb with some head work done. Tranny is built 350 with stall. MOTOR HAS NOT BEEN STARTED. No way was I going to leave this motor in for my not yet 16 son. SO, his grandma has given him a El Camino that has been sitting forever. It's a late 70 early 80 model. BUT, it has a 350 and stock tranny as well as all original brackets. So, the plan is to rebuild the Camino motor and tranny and drop it in his 83. The "race" motor will fit nicely in my 67 SWB. Cool. No money outlay for motor and tranny is always a good thing. PLUS, the guy "thru in" a bunch of NEW items: B&M truck mega shifter, Autometer Phantom oil, temp and volt gauges, Wilwood proportioning valve, Accel Dual point distributor and super coil AND a 16 gal fuel cell. The fuel cell will go under the bed of my 67. Plans are to sell the dual point since I have an extra HEI that I will put in, as well as selling the new Lakewood traction bars for a leaf spring GM truck. ALSO have 2 extra short bed drive shafts one of the is ALUMINUM and there is a yolk for a Turbo 400 in the bed as well....
Thanks for letting me ramble. Just getting a little excited that what started out as a 69 short step is now a 67 short fleet and I have a nice motor and trans for it. I can stick on a new master cylinder and be golden to at least move it under it's own power, after the motor swap anyway...

71swb4x4 · 04-22-2005, 09:07 AM

I am not sure who's getting the better deal, dad or son.

fade94 · 04-22-2005, 09:10 AM

Your not the first one to say that. But, as my son keeps pointing out, his truck has tilt, all power and A/C. Even if it will only have a "stock" motor.

boraxman · 04-22-2005, 10:04 AM

Ah let him keep the built motor, your only 16 once

67ChevyC10Stepside · 04-22-2005, 11:49 AM

he's gettin screwed.....i'd be ticked if i was him...

67ChevyC10Stepside · 04-22-2005, 11:50 AM

im in high school.....do you know the difference in the looks you get runnin a fast vehicle versus a stock pile? i sure do....

1969 GMC · 04-22-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyC10Stepside

he's gettin screwed.....i'd be ticked if i was him...

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyC10Stepside

im in high school.....do you know the difference in the looks you get runnin a fast vehicle versus a stock pile? i sure do....

You are sooo right. He sure is really getting a raw deal there. Free truck? Pssh. Not with a stock motor. Stock is soooo lame.

(in case you didn't notice...the above is dripping with sarcasm)

70 shorty · 04-22-2005, 12:17 PM

Sounds to me like you got a double score!

fade94 · 04-22-2005, 12:59 PM

I WAS in high school and I DID have a hot motor. Right up until I blew the motor..... I didn't need a motor like that then, he doesn't need it now. The goal is a nice looking truck with a nice stereo and wheels that is RELIABLE with decent gas mileage and insurance rates. It will have a nice exhaust and he is free to do whatever he wants stereo wise with it. I know he will be rodding it with the stock motor, but I don't want him to have the additional temptation of a more powerful motor. As if his safety wasn't enough to worry about, people at his school are BAD about steeling. His watch has been stolen twice, a school sweatshirt, his cell phone....are just the items I can think of off the top of my head. I don't want to add any additional incentive for someone to steal it. I know it is a big possibility that his stereo is going to get yanked, but if I can keep the truck from seeming like a hot rod, maybe I can save his truck from getting taken. IMO

special70gmc · 04-22-2005, 01:46 PM

cmon ive had my truck for 3 years now been drivin it for anout a year and a half with a hot motor and i think as long as you think hes responsible with the power he could drive it. i get on my truck ALOT and i think im a decent driver but the power teaches you to respect the trck and dont be stuipd. a lesson that a slow car/trck wont teach you

fade94 · 04-22-2005, 01:54 PM

Truck won't be slow. I'm rebuilding a 350, not a 250. Stock form will have more power than the 350's of the "muscle" era. The main goal is to keep his cost as low as possible. He doesn't have time to work with all of the sports he is envolved in. He wants/needs somthing that he can depend on being there for him. Transportation. My 67 is our toy. He will be learning all about racing, at the track. I know he will be showing his a$$ regardless of what motor is in the truck. But, gas mileage on a "stock" motor will be much better than a high horse power built motor. It's not so much a matter of trust, as it is piece of mind. I was 16 once myself. And the only thing the hot motor got me was a lot of tickets and high insurance. Bottom line is, I will make sure he has a nice, dependable vehicle for transportation. When it's time to play, he can drive my 67 at the track and at cruises with me.

chickenwing · 04-22-2005, 01:54 PM

Is it me or are they missing the point? I'd would have changed my shorts over a polka dotted Gremlin when I was in high school! Great score. Glad you are bringing the boy into wrenchdom.

fade94 · 04-22-2005, 01:59 PM

He is so deep into wrenchdom now it's scary. My son and I are as close as a dad and kid can get. We have the same taste in cars and trucks and that's scary in itself....I have a lead foot and he knows it. He will eventually have a nice street ride, but why put the money into one now as a first vehicle? I know of more than one person, including me, that screwed up their first ride. Be it their fault or not, something always happens. I would prefere to keep the price of the first year with a license down. He already knows that if he keeps his nose clean we will upgrade the motor before his junior year. I have driven a truck over the road and have had more safe driving classes than I can count. However, because of those classes, I am a much better driver and I am teaching him the same practices. I know he will be a good driver, I also know what peer pressure can do.

70c10 · 04-22-2005, 02:31 PM

fade94- you are going about it the right way. You sound like a responsible parent letting him learn at the track where it's controlled!. He doesn't need any more power right now with such limited driving experience and peer pressure.

lukecp · 04-22-2005, 03:45 PM

I had a mildly hot motor in HS...luckily i didn't get it built until i was about 17, if i would have had it when i freshly turned 16 i can only imagine all the stupid stuff i would of done. Luckily i started off with a slow S10 4x4 but i rodded the heck out of it anyway.

04-22-2005, 09:01 AM	#1
fade94 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Melissa, TX Posts: 799	A little good news.... I bought a 83 truck for my son. The guy that we got it from was making a race truck out of it. Luckily we got it before he started modifying the truck, but after he did the motor and tranny. Motor is a 355, 10.5-1 pistons, 268 cam, Edelbrock Torker II intake, Holley carb with some head work done. Tranny is built 350 with stall. MOTOR HAS NOT BEEN STARTED. No way was I going to leave this motor in for my not yet 16 son. SO, his grandma has given him a El Camino that has been sitting forever. It's a late 70 early 80 model. BUT, it has a 350 and stock tranny as well as all original brackets. So, the plan is to rebuild the Camino motor and tranny and drop it in his 83. The "race" motor will fit nicely in my 67 SWB. Cool. No money outlay for motor and tranny is always a good thing. PLUS, the guy "thru in" a bunch of NEW items: B&M truck mega shifter, Autometer Phantom oil, temp and volt gauges, Wilwood proportioning valve, Accel Dual point distributor and super coil AND a 16 gal fuel cell. The fuel cell will go under the bed of my 67. Plans are to sell the dual point since I have an extra HEI that I will put in, as well as selling the new Lakewood traction bars for a leaf spring GM truck. ALSO have 2 extra short bed drive shafts one of the is ALUMINUM and there is a yolk for a Turbo 400 in the bed as well.... Thanks for letting me ramble. Just getting a little excited that what started out as a 69 short step is now a 67 short fleet and I have a nice motor and trans for it. I can stick on a new master cylinder and be golden to at least move it under it's own power, after the motor swap anyway... Attached Images __________________ 68 short bed driver (71 clip on it now, swapping to 68 when weather cooperates) 67 short step project (will get SWB from the 68) 67 Camaro, #'s matching (my wife's) 03 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 diesel 5 speed 4.10 rear

04-22-2005, 09:07 AM	#2
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	I am not sure who's getting the better deal, dad or son. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

04-22-2005, 09:10 AM	#3
fade94 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Melissa, TX Posts: 799	Your not the first one to say that. But, as my son keeps pointing out, his truck has tilt, all power and A/C. Even if it will only have a "stock" motor. __________________ 68 short bed driver (71 clip on it now, swapping to 68 when weather cooperates) 67 short step project (will get SWB from the 68) 67 Camaro, #'s matching (my wife's) 03 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 diesel 5 speed 4.10 rear

04-22-2005, 10:04 AM	#4
boraxman Keepin an eye out Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: So.Cal Posts: 3,920	Ah let him keep the built motor, your only 16 once __________________ 1970 Chevy C10 SWB 5.3 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4 2007 Vespa GTS 250 Scooter ZIP 91351

04-22-2005, 11:49 AM	#5
67ChevyC10Stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Butler PA Posts: 3,032	he's gettin screwed.....i'd be ticked if i was him... __________________ 67 c-10, 400 SB, TH350, 4.10 gears, Blazer tank,camaro tach, sidemarker fuel fill (soon) WTB: stepside parts, 67 front end parts, 67 small window cab. posi for 3.73 or 4.10 for 12 bolt and 10 bolt.

04-22-2005, 11:50 AM	#6
67ChevyC10Stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Butler PA Posts: 3,032	im in high school.....do you know the difference in the looks you get runnin a fast vehicle versus a stock pile? i sure do.... __________________ 67 c-10, 400 SB, TH350, 4.10 gears, Blazer tank,camaro tach, sidemarker fuel fill (soon) WTB: stepside parts, 67 front end parts, 67 small window cab. posi for 3.73 or 4.10 for 12 bolt and 10 bolt.

04-22-2005, 12:17 PM	#8
70 shorty Where's my beer? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glen Allen, VA Posts: 1,772	Sounds to me like you got a double score! __________________ 70 C10, shortstep, .30 over 250,Hurst shifted 3 spd parts hauler. Holley 390, Clifford Intake, Header, ported cylinder head, unknown bigger cam. 79 Corvette L82, 4 spd, black, red interior, headers, flowmasters, and unkown bigger cam. '03 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 4x4 daily driver. 165K miles, and runs great '08 Tahoe LTZ 4x4 155K

04-22-2005, 12:59 PM	#9
fade94 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Melissa, TX Posts: 799	I WAS in high school and I DID have a hot motor. Right up until I blew the motor..... I didn't need a motor like that then, he doesn't need it now. The goal is a nice looking truck with a nice stereo and wheels that is RELIABLE with decent gas mileage and insurance rates. It will have a nice exhaust and he is free to do whatever he wants stereo wise with it. I know he will be rodding it with the stock motor, but I don't want him to have the additional temptation of a more powerful motor. As if his safety wasn't enough to worry about, people at his school are BAD about steeling. His watch has been stolen twice, a school sweatshirt, his cell phone....are just the items I can think of off the top of my head. I don't want to add any additional incentive for someone to steal it. I know it is a big possibility that his stereo is going to get yanked, but if I can keep the truck from seeming like a hot rod, maybe I can save his truck from getting taken. IMO __________________ 68 short bed driver (71 clip on it now, swapping to 68 when weather cooperates) 67 short step project (will get SWB from the 68) 67 Camaro, #'s matching (my wife's) 03 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 diesel 5 speed 4.10 rear

04-22-2005, 01:46 PM	#10
special70gmc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: long island, new york Posts: 1,333	cmon ive had my truck for 3 years now been drivin it for anout a year and a half with a hot motor and i think as long as you think hes responsible with the power he could drive it. i get on my truck ALOT and i think im a decent driver but the power teaches you to respect the trck and dont be stuipd. a lesson that a slow car/trck wont teach you Attached Images __________________ 1986 c-10 swb 5/7 drop 20'' coys 1958 belair 2door

04-22-2005, 01:54 PM	#11
fade94 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Melissa, TX Posts: 799	Truck won't be slow. I'm rebuilding a 350, not a 250. Stock form will have more power than the 350's of the "muscle" era. The main goal is to keep his cost as low as possible. He doesn't have time to work with all of the sports he is envolved in. He wants/needs somthing that he can depend on being there for him. Transportation. My 67 is our toy. He will be learning all about racing, at the track. I know he will be showing his a$$ regardless of what motor is in the truck. But, gas mileage on a "stock" motor will be much better than a high horse power built motor. It's not so much a matter of trust, as it is piece of mind. I was 16 once myself. And the only thing the hot motor got me was a lot of tickets and high insurance. Bottom line is, I will make sure he has a nice, dependable vehicle for transportation. When it's time to play, he can drive my 67 at the track and at cruises with me. __________________ 68 short bed driver (71 clip on it now, swapping to 68 when weather cooperates) 67 short step project (will get SWB from the 68) 67 Camaro, #'s matching (my wife's) 03 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 diesel 5 speed 4.10 rear

04-22-2005, 01:54 PM	#12
chickenwing Lovin' Life in Miss.! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, Mississippi Posts: 1,937	Is it me or are they missing the point? I'd would have changed my shorts over a polka dotted Gremlin when I was in high school! Great score. Glad you are bringing the boy into wrenchdom. __________________ The truck... you hear that? No really, you did hear that?!!!

04-22-2005, 01:59 PM	#13
fade94 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Melissa, TX Posts: 799	He is so deep into wrenchdom now it's scary. My son and I are as close as a dad and kid can get. We have the same taste in cars and trucks and that's scary in itself....I have a lead foot and he knows it. He will eventually have a nice street ride, but why put the money into one now as a first vehicle? I know of more than one person, including me, that screwed up their first ride. Be it their fault or not, something always happens. I would prefere to keep the price of the first year with a license down. He already knows that if he keeps his nose clean we will upgrade the motor before his junior year. I have driven a truck over the road and have had more safe driving classes than I can count. However, because of those classes, I am a much better driver and I am teaching him the same practices. I know he will be a good driver, I also know what peer pressure can do. __________________ 68 short bed driver (71 clip on it now, swapping to 68 when weather cooperates) 67 short step project (will get SWB from the 68) 67 Camaro, #'s matching (my wife's) 03 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 diesel 5 speed 4.10 rear

04-22-2005, 02:31 PM	#14
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	fade94- you are going about it the right way. You sound like a responsible parent letting him learn at the track where it's controlled!. He doesn't need any more power right now with such limited driving experience and peer pressure. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

04-22-2005, 03:45 PM	#15
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	I had a mildly hot motor in HS...luckily i didn't get it built until i was about 17, if i would have had it when i freshly turned 16 i can only imagine all the stupid stuff i would of done. Luckily i started off with a slow S10 4x4 but i rodded the heck out of it anyway. __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg



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