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09-21-2006, 11:50 PM | #1 |
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Post pics of your radiator please!
Just went and bought a new radiator today from the local parts house and from the time I bought it looked like junk but went to all of the local stores and they were all the same. Gave them all the same info. 84 Chevy 350 block 2wd Auto maximum cooling. Anyway I get home to put it in and it's just too small. It's not even long enough for the top support brackets to fit within it. Plus it's extremely narrow. Looks like it should be in a 1980 Toyota pickup. Highly unsatisfied with it. I don't have anything to compare it to because I got the truck back from the paint shop with an empty engine bay. So what should I be running as far as o.e.? Let's see some pics so I can compare. Thanks!
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09-22-2006, 12:32 AM | #2 |
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Re: Post pics of your radiator please!
What do you have 2 or 3 row? I bought the 4 row myself. I haven't installed it, because I don't have the proper upper mounting brackets. You could probably ask for the 3 row it's a direct replacement with much better cooling. If I can't find the upper brackets I'm gonna sell my 4 row and get a 3 row. Sorry, I don't have any pics.
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09-22-2006, 12:55 AM | #3 |
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Re: Post pics of your radiator please!
haha.. 1 row maybe? 1/2 a row? the core is only like 1" thick. parts store guys tell me "yea thats the direct replacement o.e. radiator" i think it's bs myself. hell the factory top bracket looks like it could fit 2 of them radiators under it.
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09-22-2006, 01:22 AM | #4 |
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Re: Post pics of your radiator please!
Look on the autozone website. They list several part numbers that you can then look up on the manufacturer's website. All of my local stores had it under he same part number regardless of manufacturer, so they are probably the same way where you are.
I went through something similar recently, and had to do all the legwork myself because the people at autozone were idiots. You would think it would be easy since I was replacing it under warranty, but they kept trying to replace it with a radiator that was different (smaller) than the one I oiginally bought 5 years ago. It reminded me why I never buy anything from them any more. They also have a book in the store that lists all of the part numbers with the sizes, number of rows, etc., but it is easier to get the info off the internet. I'm running part number 433716. It is the copper radiator, not the aluminum one with the plastic tanks. It was a direct bolt-in for the 2 row that originally came with my 305. It has the same tanks, spaced the same distance apart, but with a thicker core. It was an upgrade compared to what it replaced, and cheaper than the two row for some reason. They list it as the standard radiator for a 350. Be forewarned that some of their boxes had 2 row radiators, and some had the correct 3 rows all under the same part number. BTW, Jegs and Summit both list aluminum heavy duty aftermarket radiators for our trucks now, but they will cost you more. Slonaker Here's mine. It says that it is plastic and aluminum, but that is incorrect. You should be able to look up part numbers from the Autozone site there. http://webbase.transpro.com/catalog.php?partnum=433716 They (the transpro website) show these numbers for your truck: 433711 M/T; w/ Heavy Duty Cooling; w/ Air Conditioning; w/ Maximum Cooling 433716 A/T; Plastic Tanks Aluminum Core; w/ Heavy Duty Cooling; w/ Air Conditioning; w/ Maximum Cooling 433839 M/T; w/ Standard Cooling 433840 A/T; Plastic Tank Aluminum Core; w/ Standard Cooling 436016 Heatbuster Extreme Service 438716 A/T; Brass Tanks Copper Brass Core; w/ Heavy Duty Cooling; w/ Air Conditioning; w/ Maximum Cooling I found by looking up he specs on the radiators that some of them wouldn't actually fit my brackets and fan shroud even though they were listed as correct replacements for my truck. That makes no sense. I was disappointed because I wanted a 4 row heatbuster. Oh well... Do I win the award for the longest post? Last edited by Slonaker; 09-22-2006 at 01:35 AM. Reason: added link |
09-22-2006, 11:38 AM | #5 |
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09-22-2006, 11:42 AM | #6 |
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This looks exactly like the one I bought same brand and everything. Ready-Rad. It's just not long enough for the support brackets and I know for a fact the width of the core is not 1 5/8" more like 1".
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09-22-2006, 02:15 PM | #7 | |
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You don't have the radiator that came out to compare to, right? Maybe you can bolt your brackets in place and measure between the rubber isolators in them. That will tell you the width of the core, and you might be able to look up the specs (on the trans pro website) on the part numbers I put in the post above and match it up. Especially look at the "heatbuster" or whatever they called them. They all had a core wider than mine. You might also look up part numbers for suburbans and 3/4 or 1 ton trucks since they probably would have used bigger radiators. AZ had one they tried to swap mine out for that was for a Suburban. At first they were insisting that I replace my 3 row with a 2 row under warranty. After I complained to the management they were going to substitute the giant Suburban one. It was a four row that was about 6 inches wider than mine. If I had the right brackets and shroud for it, it would be in my truck right now. Slonaker |
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09-22-2006, 01:48 PM | #8 |
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Re: Post pics of your radiator please!
i no this may sound like a bad idea but have you looked in local salvage yards? i was in one yesterday and found a brand new radiatior sittting in a rotted suburban. You could tell they just replaced the rad. BTW in my 84 with the HO400 in it i am currently running a rad. out of a Comaro. I have been wanting to get the right one for some time now even though this one works great. i should get a pic the thing is painted floresant green !
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09-22-2006, 02:51 PM | #9 |
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Go to AutoZone and ask for a radiator for a 84 1ton with 454, this should be the 4core.. The local dealership will have the upper mounting plate for the 4 core as well as new rubber.. should only cost about $150 give or take... I will look for pics of mine.. they should be on here.
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09-22-2006, 02:59 PM | #10 |
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Here ya go!
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09-22-2006, 06:36 PM | #11 |
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I ended up bringing that toy radiator back to the store and got my money back. I think I might save up some more for a big polished aluminum radiator. something like this:
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09-22-2006, 07:17 PM | #12 |
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09-23-2006, 09:15 PM | #13 |
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Re: Post pics of your radiator please!
Just buy a 454 aluminum radiator. I did.
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09-24-2006, 02:15 AM | #14 |
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I bet sulphurdave has 4 row brackets. I recently replace a 2 row in my 76 malibu with 3 row and it was a direct replacement. Two and three row have same dimensions I believe, but just with the added row. You should probably ask for the HEATBUSTER. It says on the box my 4 row came in that 6016 replaces 1762 if that helps. Your local radiator shop should be more helpful with this matter.
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09-24-2006, 11:58 AM | #15 |
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Well I was gonna take a pic of them but my camera just broke. Apparently they don't work after dropping them on the floor. But anyway the rubber peice under the bracket is 2 1/4" where it holds the top of the radiator and the total length of the bracket is 5". The space between the 2 brackets from the outside of both is 31 1/2" and then there's the other holes on the driver's side that you can make it even wider than that. I mean these are just the factory brackets that came on the truck with a 305 originally. I'll see if I can find some pics.
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09-24-2006, 12:15 PM | #16 |
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The only pic I found was of my son working on the motor haha but you can see the bracket.
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09-25-2006, 08:00 AM | #17 |
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Those brackets look like the ones for a three row radiator. I was able to get the correct replacement by asking for a rad for HD cooling or a small block with AC. Your upper shroud should have threaded bosses across the top to allow attachment of the a/c lines.
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I do believe those are the 2-3 row brackets,
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the 4 core bracket looks like this.. I thought this was covered already? haha
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09-24-2006, 01:48 PM | #20 |
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Re: Post pics of your radiator please!
Hey, hope you get it figured out! My old man replaced the radiator in my truck back when he drove it, replaced the original (i assume 2 core) with a honkering huge radiator. Pretty much you can make as big of a radiator fit as you can think of. Even running the A/C in the summer it doesn't hit the 1/4 mark on the temp gauge.
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The 4 core brackets is only a single piece that runs all the way across. (see picture I posted above)
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09-25-2006, 01:05 PM | #24 |
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When I was looking at them at Auto Zone, they listed about 5 or 6 options. I think the trick is to look at each of them until you find what you want.
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I got mine from Napa, its a Modine with lifetime warranty.
Its a 4-core. I had one leak after about 1-year, went and got a brand new. Been fine since. Gotta love the life-time warranty and its not a junk rad either. I paid around $220 I think for it. Not real sure, this was years ago. I'm pretty sure Napa's part number is: NR 730 http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...ption=Radiator " Comments:Heater return connection on R.H. tank. Core Size:28 3/8" x 18 1/2" x 2 5/8" (4 Row) Features & Benefits:Manufactured with Industry leading quality components using world class process controls insuring durability and drop in fit. Inlet Connector Size:1 5/16" or 1 9/16" Left Inlet Header Size:3 1/2" x 20 5/8" Make:GM Oil Cooler:8 1/2" (5 Plate) Outlet Connector Size:1 9/16" Right Outlet Header Size:3 1/2" x 20 5/8" Type of Mount:Saddle Mount "
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