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fishmunger · 12-19-2006, 12:47 AM

Ok I ordered my notch and shock relocators from CPP today. I've never done this before but i get the general consensus it isnt too bad...

Ok I have access to an angle grinder with a cut off wheel and a jigsaw for the cutting part. The thing I'm unsure about is how to get off those huge blasted rivets? Do I drill them out with my hand drill (sounds horrible!) or can I grind them down with a grinder or what? I don't have an air chisel or anything fun like that so I'm kinda limited...

Any tips?

Thanks,

Nate

SCOTI · 12-19-2006, 02:04 AM

Yep.... you can grind the heads off & punch the remainder through the hole (not as easy as it sounds though).

Do yourself a favor & stop off @ your local 'rent-all' center & get a small 110 air-compressor & an air chisel. That will definitely make the job much easier & shouldn't break the bank if you use your time wisely.

action · 12-19-2006, 10:39 AM

I used drill bits, started small (3/16) then went to a bit the size of the hole for rivet.
If the rivets didn't just fall off (hole drilled off center) I just used a cold chissle to finish. Rivets seem to be soft (to drill). just use cutting oil on drill bits to save them. Use a center punch to mark the center of the rivet.
Good luck
Jac

**Hart_Rod** · 12-19-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

Yep.... you can grind the heads off & punch the remainder through the hole (not as easy as it sounds though).

Do yourself a favor & stop off @ your local 'rent-all' center & get a small 110 air-compressor & an air chisel. That will definitely make the job much easier & shouldn't break the bank if you use your time wisely.

This will make the job about 4 hours shorter.

fishmunger · 12-19-2006, 12:53 PM

ok, but now you need to explain to me what exactly I would do with the air chisel? I've never even touched one! What is the proper technique?

thanks,

Nate

SCOTI · 12-19-2006, 01:26 PM

The air chisel is basically a fast repetitive air hammer that uses different tips for different functions. Use a sharp, angled, 'chisel' tip to knock off the rivets head & then swap out to a 'punch' tip to finish poking the remainder of the rivet carcass through the hole.

An alternative method to speed the chiseling off of the rivet heads is to first cut them in a criss-cross pattern down to the frame material w/a cut-off wheel. It makes quick work of knocking them off the rest of the way.

XXL · 12-19-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

An alternative method to speed the chiseling off of the rivet heads is to first cut them in a criss-cross pattern down to the frame material w/a cut-off wheel. It makes quick work of knocking them off the rest of the way.

Use power tools where possible. If you do this manually, you will want to pack a lunch

67Fleet · 12-19-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

The air chisel is basically a fast repetitive air hammer that uses different tips for different functions. Use a sharp, angled, 'chisel' tip to knock off the rivets head & then swap out to a 'punch' tip to finish poking the remainder of the rivet carcass through the hole.

An alternative method to speed the chiseling off of the rivet heads is to first cut them in a criss-cross pattern down to the frame material w/a cut-off wheel. It makes quick work of knocking them off the rest of the way.

Best way is X pattern like SCOTI said. It will drastically reduce your time involved. Then stick your bull-point bit in and punch the remainder out.

fishmunger · 12-20-2006, 12:04 AM

well i found a friend with an air chisel now i need to find one with a portable air compressor...and the parts came today! those notches look beefy!

Nate

SCOTI · 12-20-2006, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishmunger

well i found a friend with an air chisel now i need to find one with a portable air compressor...and the parts came today! those notches look beefy!

Nate

Check your local rent-all if you can't get one from a friend . . .....

ghetto_superman · 12-20-2006, 12:59 AM

if all else fails... torch em.

gringoloco · 12-20-2006, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fishmunger

well i found a friend with an air chisel now i need to find one with a portable air compressor...and the parts came today! those notches look beefy!

Nate

Good thing. I wouldn't even attempt this without an air chisel. Even with one handy, it is a chore. I usually limit myself to 4-6 rivets a day. That's about all the pounding I can put up with in one session

Good luck -Chris

Rokcrln · 12-20-2006, 08:50 AM

I don't know if this will help or not!http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=195566

Kevin
LFD Inc.

action · 12-20-2006, 09:41 AM

My truck was not that hard-I did about 40 rivets in less the 30 min with a drill and 2 bit sizes. If you use an air chissel make sure you get a big compressor as they use a lot of air. My truck is down to the frame so I am sure that helped. I have a chissel but for me the drill was way faster.
Jack

12-19-2006, 12:47 AM	#1
fishmunger Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 411	Tools for installing bolt-in notch? Ok I ordered my notch and shock relocators from CPP today. I've never done this before but i get the general consensus it isnt too bad... Ok I have access to an angle grinder with a cut off wheel and a jigsaw for the cutting part. The thing I'm unsure about is how to get off those huge blasted rivets? Do I drill them out with my hand drill (sounds horrible!) or can I grind them down with a grinder or what? I don't have an air chisel or anything fun like that so I'm kinda limited... Any tips? Thanks, Nate

12-19-2006, 02:04 AM	#2
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,066	Re: Tools for installing bolt-in notch? Yep.... you can grind the heads off & punch the remainder through the hole (not as easy as it sounds though). Do yourself a favor & stop off @ your local 'rent-all' center & get a small 110 air-compressor & an air chisel. That will definitely make the job much easier & shouldn't break the bank if you use your time wisely. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

12-19-2006, 10:39 AM	#3
action Active Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Valley Springs, Ca. Posts: 266	Re: Tools for installing bolt-in notch? I used drill bits, started small (3/16) then went to a bit the size of the hole for rivet. If the rivets didn't just fall off (hole drilled off center) I just used a cold chissle to finish. Rivets seem to be soft (to drill). just use cutting oil on drill bits to save them. Use a center punch to mark the center of the rivet. Good luck Jac

12-19-2006, 12:53 PM	#5
fishmunger Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 411	Re: Tools for installing bolt-in notch? ok, but now you need to explain to me what exactly I would do with the air chisel? I've never even touched one! What is the proper technique? thanks, Nate

12-19-2006, 01:26 PM	#6
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,066	Re: Tools for installing bolt-in notch? The air chisel is basically a fast repetitive air hammer that uses different tips for different functions. Use a sharp, angled, 'chisel' tip to knock off the rivets head & then swap out to a 'punch' tip to finish poking the remainder of the rivet carcass through the hole. An alternative method to speed the chiseling off of the rivet heads is to first cut them in a criss-cross pattern down to the frame material w/a cut-off wheel. It makes quick work of knocking them off the rest of the way. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

12-20-2006, 12:04 AM	#9
fishmunger Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 411	Re: Tools for installing bolt-in notch? well i found a friend with an air chisel now i need to find one with a portable air compressor...and the parts came today! those notches look beefy! Nate

12-20-2006, 12:59 AM	#11
ghetto_superman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,982	Re: Tools for installing bolt-in notch? if all else fails... torch em. __________________ -1947 3100 -1968 C10 -1970 K20

12-20-2006, 08:50 AM	#13
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Re: Tools for installing bolt-in notch? I don't know if this will help or not!http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=195566 Kevin LFD Inc.

12-20-2006, 09:41 AM	#14
action Active Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Valley Springs, Ca. Posts: 266	Re: Tools for installing bolt-in notch? My truck was not that hard-I did about 40 rivets in less the 30 min with a drill and 2 bit sizes. If you use an air chissel make sure you get a big compressor as they use a lot of air. My truck is down to the frame so I am sure that helped. I have a chissel but for me the drill was way faster. Jack



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