Yea..Another "Getting Started" Post

[LayFrame72]

First off I just want to say thanks to everyone on this board, Even before I registered Ive been getting information off of here and its all helped me through a majority of my questions (I love that damn search button)....But anyway, I just wanted to get a few opinions on what I should look into buying next, I really have no sense of direction considering this is my first real build. I already have Drop spindles, Slotted/Drilled Rotors, ART Strong arms and Slam bags..The install will begin when it all gets here..Really not intrested in a PB Dropmember right now..I dont think im that talented to do that kind of install by myself..Maybe wheel and tire combos?..Address engine problems?..I guess the answer im looking for is that it dosnt matter where I go from here...Or does it?...My full plan of action is a body drop on 20/22s with the inline 6 for the rat rod kinda thing, nothing more..Should I just get this thing to my liking then send it to the shop? Or just go with the shop work first THEN start?..I cant weld thats why a shop would be involved.

[PBFAB.COM]

What are you looking for as far as an "end result"? When you say "body drop" are you wanting to lay body?

And on the Dropmember... I know it's not for everybody, but it's a pretty straight forward install. The only "hard part" is welding the rack and pinion notch in the frame.

[LayFrame72]

Im not looking to build a show truck by any means, No frame off resto either..I guess more of a Bag and drag type deal..With a few mods and upgrades along the way..And yes, im pressed on the "Body drop"..Laying rockers would be enough I guess..As far as the Dropmember goes, I wish I was that confident. Welding and moving engine mounts around are out of my talent category, Which really means I cant do much of anything.. Id definitely have to have someone else do the install tho..Then id probably be lookin at over $2500 or something ridiculous, Just to have the front lay out an extra few inches. But I do hail to you Sir for the product you offer and the superior feedback it gets.

[LayFrame72]

..Got a majority of my stuff in today..I rip open the ART box first wanting to see how "beefy" these things really are only to find a note on the envelope stating the Uppers are backordered and ART dosnt know when they will be ready..Looks like ill be kicking rocks awhile longer till im actually able to do something..Anyone else on here waiting for them?

[67Fleet]

That kind of thing really chaps my a$$. Why can't these companies just be up front with you on the phone and let you know that they are on backorder? Rediculous.

[bagged81]

So you are wanting to lay rocker with bolt-ons? Is there even a large enough bolt-on notch that would allow you to lay rocker?

[jlaird]

Originally Posted by 67Fleet

That kind of thing really chaps my a$$. Why can't these companies just be up front with you on the phone and let you know that they are on backorder? Rediculous.

I thought the same thing when I read this. I'll tell you why these companies do this. They don't want to lose the sale, so they ship you what they have. I own my own company and I always tell the customer what is on backorder before I ship. I would be pissed if I got that ART box with that "note" inside.

[LayFrame72]

Bagged- I dont think its possible to lay em' with bolt ons..Or is it?..Everybodys ive seen on here is either bodydropped,Z'ed or just photochopped

And about the backorder..I guess its kind of my fault in a way maybe..I didnt order directly from ART, I went through Suicide since my accounts already setup through them..Im sure they dont know what the hell ART has and dosnt have half the time..They said nothing about it being backordered on the phone..Regaurdless though, Someones gonna be getting an annoying phone call once a week

[Chops_by_Chase]

Originally Posted by LayFrame72

Bagged-

And about the backorder..I guess its kind of my fault in a way maybe..I didnt order directly from ART, I went through Suicide since my accounts already setup through them..Im sure they dont know what the hell ART has and dosnt have half the time..They said nothing about it being backordered on the phone..Regaurdless though, Someones gonna be getting an annoying phone call once a week

We try to let you know if something will be on backorder when you call, in this particular instance we are waiting on bushings and cross shafts for the upper arms. Our bushing and cross shaft supplier has somewhat hung us on them, we can only find a limited quantity... we are in the process of machining our own crossshafts, and are utilizing a differnt bushing. as soon as this process is done i will have them out, or if you are in dire need, you can send me your cross shafts and bushings, and I will install them.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by Chops_by_Chase

We try to let you know if something will be on backorder when you call, in this particular instance we are waiting on bushings and cross shafts for the upper arms. Our bushing and cross shaft supplier has somewhat hung us on them, we can only find a limited quantity... we are in the process of machining our own crossshafts, and are utilizing a differnt bushing. as soon as this process is done i will have them out, or if you are in dire need, you can send me your cross shafts and bushings, and I will install them.

Or..... send them out naked & let the customer assemble the uppers @ a slight discount (the cost of the upper shaft & bushing)?????

[67Fleet]

That's what I like about you Scoti, you're always thinking outside the box!

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by 67Fleet

That's what I like about you Scoti, you're always thinking outside the box!

Seems like a simple enough solution & doesn't require the wait to fab new/different parts.

Originally Posted by Chops_by_Chase

.....we are in the process of machining our own crossshafts, and are utilizing a differnt bushing. as soon as this process is done i will have them out, or if you are in dire need, you can send me your cross shafts and bushings, and I will install them.

Machining the cross-shafts in house would work better for future customers as it gives ART more in-house control of inventory. Just make sure they are a 'direct replacement part' for the original cross-shafts so they can be an option vs. the only choice.

I would be fine w/receiving 'naked' arms & sourcing my own stock bushings & re-using my original cross-shafts to save money*...... but then again, I'm a cheap f**ker.

*60's ~ 72 guys would need the later style a-arm shafts & wouldn't be able to re-use theirs.

[RunninLo]

Originally Posted by LayFrame72

Laying rockers would be enough I guess..As far as the Dropmember goes, I wish I was that confident. Welding and moving engine mounts around are out of my talent category, Which really means I cant do much of anything.. .

As a Dropmemebr customer I can tell you this thing is ready to be installed by an average shadetree mechanic with a few jack stands and some hand tools. Nathan has engineed it all to be bolt in save for the steering notches. Even if you paid a welding shop to do that part it would still be affordable. The kit locates on factory holes and literally can be installed a day. I had my burb stripped down already and it took about 2 hours including welding.

The only snag I had was that I had odrered my strong arms direct from ART and had accidentally recieved two passenger side control arms. see below

Originally Posted by Chops_by_Chase

We try to let you know if something will be on backorder when you call, in this particular instance we are waiting on bushings and cross shafts for the upper arms. Our bushing and cross shaft supplier has somewhat hung us on them, we can only find a limited quantity... we are in the process of machining our own crossshafts, and are utilizing a differnt bushing. as soon as this process is done i will have them out, or if you are in dire need, you can send me your cross shafts and bushings, and I will install them.

On the subject of the arm mistake. A simple phone call to Chase at ART and they took care of me. I'll continue to recommend ans use ART products after this customer service expirience.

Josh