ECE vs CPP disk brake swap kits

[pissonNOS]

anyone have any opinions on which kit is better or worse? ECE's kit is $859 and CPPS it $699 so not a whole bunch of difference there Ive heard alot of good things about ECE so maybe the $159 is worth it for better quality? what do u guys think? I should add that im looking at the kits with the drop spindles included as well, and I believe the cpp kit had the upgraded 73-87 style hardware

[Sweet 85 C10]

Links and pics of kit would help because im stil in decide mode myself!

[70c10]

I bought my kit with dropped spindles from GMCPaul for $470 and it was about 7 hours to install. I bought a disc brake prop valve at the junkyard for $5 and a few line fittings for the new master cylinder I bought. I'm happy with it!

[pissonNOS]

http://www.earlyclassic.com/catalog....version%20Kits thats the ECE kit
http://www.classicperform.com/Store/...6370SWBK5S.htm Thats the CPP kit.
70 c 10 did your kit from GMC paul come with all the stuff listed int hose links? if so I would rather support a board member
P.S. I assume from the fact u said that your ahppy with it the quality was good as far as parts and such goes? no bearing fitment problems or anything?

[jasonb72]

You will get much MUCH better service with the ECE kit, Stan at ECE is the best I have ever dealt with, They will bend over bakwards to get you what you need even if it means getting custom parts made. He got a set of brackets made for me to go with my 9", and did not even charge more than the normal F&R disc brake kit cost. I have also dealt with CPP, and I like some of their parts, there service is like a whore house get you in and out. I have had nothing but bad service, sending me wrong parts that I had Powder Coated and sent back to them for assembly. Like I said quality of parts is fine, but service sucks. ECE has it all, and their quality is just as good or better, but I would pay for the service anytime. Like I said give ol Stan a call, and tell him you are part of the board, and he will probably hook you up. They will match the price of the CPP kit, but don't tell him I told you so. I have done time and time again.

J

[70c10]

pissonnos- the cpp kit requires you to change your tie rods and ball joints. The ECE kit is complete and adds the Master cylinder, bracket, steel lines from the T fitting up to the master cylinder and includes the dust shields but cost $390 more than GMCPauls. I paid $15 for my master cylinder at Autozone, I bought my prop valve including the attached 2 small lines and bracket at the junk yard for $5. I picked my kit up from Paul at the Truck nationals in Carlisle and he gave me a deal on the dust shields for about $30. So add $50 plus about $10 in brake line adapter fittings to tie the prop valve into my existing lines and that comes to $520. I used kit #133163. I had to grind a little on the spindles (about 1/8") for the top a-arm radius and for my wheel weights which are mounted on the backside of my rims. This took no effort at all because the metal is pretty soft. Just buzz them with a grinder. Here is the kit:http://www.gmcpauls.com/Brakes&Steering.htm One other thing was I had to drill 3 holes in each spindle to mount the dust shield and use self tapping screws to mount them. Alot of people don't run dust shields at all.

[pissonNOS]

well seeing as no one is running anybody quality of parts into the ground this is making it a bit harder to decide, I also noticed about the master cylinder as well I could pick one of them up pretty cheap my self which is no big deal I think I will wind up going with GMC pauls, I dont really faying an extra almost $400 just for good customer service no offense jason B Its just that im on a budget for this truck so. thanks for everyone input

[pissonNOS]

what year of a master cylinder did you go with? I got a price on one today that said 67-72 halfton? that make sense? also any pushrod lenght troubles doing it this way as oppose to buying the kit that ahs the specified MC

[jasonb72]

None taken,

I would still call Stan at ECE and see what he can do for matching prices. If you show him the quote of GMCPauls he might hook you up. It never hurts to ask. Good luck.
J

Originally Posted by pissonNOS

well seeing as no one is running anybody quality of parts into the ground this is making it a bit harder to decide, I also noticed about the master cylinder as well I could pick one of them up pretty cheap my self which is no big deal I think I will wind up going with GMC pauls, I dont really faying an extra almost $400 just for good customer service no offense jason B Its just that im on a budget for this truck so. thanks for everyone input

[70c10]

Originally Posted by pissonNOS

what year of a master cylinder did you go with? I got a price on one today that said 67-72 halfton? that make sense? also any pushrod lenght troubles doing it this way as oppose to buying the kit that ahs the specified MC

I asked for one for a 71' only because the truck I pulled the prop valve off of was a 71'. 70GMCer showed me how to bench bleed it because I had never done it before (5 minute job with instructions and bleeder kit included). We didn't have to do anything at all with the pushrod length. The hardest thing was riding all over town to find the reducer fittings with the inverted flares to connect the prop valve to my existing brake lines. I used one on the bottom and two on the rear. I could have just ordered new lines to the T block to make it cleaner but I was in a hurry. Here is a pic of the rear adapters I used. I also found this article today online!
http://classictruckworld.tenmagazine...ticle&aid=3587

[pissonNOS]

in case anyone was in real suspense about this haha im still on the fence about it I might actually have some time tomorrow to phone stan at ECE

[Jayman931]

im currently installing my ECE kit....so far so good...they only thing you will need besides what is in the kit is some high temperature grease to pack the bearings.....I recommend changing out the ball joints while your in there....but thats just me...

[huero]

ECE = Made in USA = Quality
CPP = Made in China = Good Luck!

[Moose67]

OK you all have given your opinion on ECE , CPP and GMC Paul's. What about Brother's? Good , bad or average. I have a 67 SWB that I want to convert.

[72BlckButy]

Originally Posted by jasonb72

None taken,

I would still call Stan at ECE and see what he can do for matching prices. If you show him the quote of GMCPauls he might hook you up. It never hurts to ask. Good luck.
J

with jasonb72.... any time you want to order parts from ECE always call Stan and see what he can do. They offer their 4/6 for $759, and priced it to me w/ shipping for only $775 total!! That's shipping it from California to Missouri....

[ChevLoRay]

I have ECE and couldn't be happier. So, to anyone who commented positively for ECE, I second the motion.

[chevguy7]

I went with ECE on my truck. They had great service and all of the guys there including Stan are very knowledgeable. The parts are great quality, made in USA and I had no problems bolting anything up. ECE all the way.

[chevy_mike]

I haven't installed it yet but I bought the whole disc brake/suspension kit from ECE and it is all top notch stuff. Raybestos brake parts, high quality parts and outstanding customer service.

My two cents worth recommends the ECE stuff.

[Fastandcrazy]

ECE is by far the greatest way to go hands down. I may be biased for that they are the only company that i have dealt with. But quality, service, and advice is 2nd to none. Every suspension part and sheetmetal part for my truck is from them. I would not go any other way, also because the fact that i am only an hour away from them too.

[72BlckButy]

Oh... to only live an hour away from ECE... that would be heaven!

[fastom]

Check out this post!! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=310759

[72BlckButy]

Good post fastom, I seem to forget about the review forum.

[DrtyJack75]

I just got off the phone with Stan from ECE...

I called to check on a credit I had....I had sent something back, shoot I cant even remember what it is now because it was back in May/June...but I had a old receipt and I had written $39. credit from Stan.....so I said HECK Let's give him a try and see what he says....

So I call Stan up, tell him my name and my situation....he looks through computer and sees what Ive bought but not what Ive returned....he says well you know I can't find it in the computer....so I start thinking well shoot that sucks, there goes $39....but he quickly says, HEY ILL JUST TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT!! You've got a $39 credit....

So then I guess my compulsiveness kicks in and I start to order dropped spindles.....then as we discus what I need again my complusiveness kicks in more and I end up buying the entire kit! Power Disk Brake Conversion, Springs, Shocks, Panhard bar, Shock relocation kit....everything....i cant wait to get it.....

Stan admitted that I could of probably pieced it together through other vendors or local auto parts store but explained that sometimes its just better to buy a entire kit and not have to wonder, well shoot do I buy this year or that year ball joints, do I buy this year or that year brake lines...

So I said, the heck with it.....Everyone raves about how good ECE parts are, I might as well buy something I KNOW Ill be happy with...

I look forward to getting my stuff next week and slappin her together! She's getting closer and closer to being road worthy!


As long as the quality of the parts even come close to the quality of customer service, I would recommend ECE and Stan to anyone!

[wkends]

Originally Posted by huero

ECE = Made in USA = Quality
CPP = Made in China = Good Luck!

Nuff said for me. I will go with ECE.

[lo04chevy]

I run a bodyshop here. We had a a guy come in with a 69 stepside. He bought CPP full kit for 1800 I believe. The parts I handled and installed were quality products. I called on a saturday and to my suprise I was able to talk with a tech.

good parts and good customer service. I don't have any expericene with ECE.