Stock Height Stance???? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Dandeluxe · 10-06-2002, 08:39 PM

I PUT ALL NEW SPRINGS, KYB GAS SHOCKS, ALL NEW FRONT END PARTS, BUT NOW HAVE DECIDED I DONT LIKE THE FACTORY STANCE, TOO MUCH RAKE IN THE BACK. MY ? IS, WOULD ME CHANGING THE REAR SPRINGS IN THE REAR MAKE MY TRUCK SIT LEVEL. I LIKE THE FRONT STANCE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT THE SAME IN THE REAR. MAYBE 2 INCH LOWER SPRINGS IN THE REAR MIGHT MAKE IT SET THE WAY I WANT? ANY IDEAS?

Primered_69 · 10-06-2002, 10:15 PM

Hey I know you wanted advice but I just wanted to tell you that even with the absence of primer you got one nice looking truck

crazy longhorn · 10-06-2002, 11:07 PM

You might try a 2" lowering block in the rear......I think it would get you pretty close. Pics can make it hard to say for sure, but it looks to be 2-2 1/2 " higher at the rear. Good luck......crazy AL

73GMC · 10-08-2002, 09:11 PM

It would be best to use 2" lowering springs.

crazy AL- Can't use lowering block on coil rear suspension, you probably knew that already but I figure you were thinkin about 73-87's.

Alvin · 10-08-2002, 11:09 PM

As far as i know, you can buy lowering blocks for coil spring equipped trucks, they just go under the axle and above the control arm, and come with longer u-bolts. Someone correct me if I am wrong!

crazy longhorn · 10-09-2002, 08:27 AM

Yes, you can use lowering blocks on coil spring trucks.......the axle is mounted above the trail arm from the factory. Alvin is right on, the kits come with longer U bolts. On the leaf spring trucks you cant use lowering blocks........they would be a lift block, as the axle sits under the spring.........Crazy AL

HvyChevy454 · 10-10-2002, 07:24 PM

i made my own lowering blocks and just bought longer u bolts

jmil1974 · 10-14-2002, 10:04 AM

Heavy,

Do you have any pinion angle issues like vibration or worn ujoints? That's the only possible downside I see to this method. How far down did you go?

blowermtr · 10-18-2002, 02:18 AM

Chevy likes the 2 inch snow plow effect. Your truck (if at origianal stance) should be two inches higher in the rear. Lowering springs would be your best option. You have two others though. One is to cut the springs but a machine shop would have to reshape the coil because the top and bottom coils of the spring are smaller diameter than the rest (not a problem in the front however if you later decide you want to drop it too, in the front only the top has a smaller diameter so you can cut the bottom, then heat it up and pound the coil flat to sit on your control arm.) Back to the rear. They are also progressive coils so when you chop the top or bottom the new top or bottom coils will be closer. In essence it will be a little stiffer, in actuality you won't notice a thing. The other option is not suggested but fun to do, especially if you are going to get different springs anyway. Until you get them if you want it lower, just heat the coils to see what you are going to have. Do one side at a time and take it slow. It isn't as hard as everyone says to make it acuarate but just take it slow and measure off the tire to the fender. The bump stops may not be acurate. Warning: if you go to far there is no turning back. You may be chopping the front springs too. Best of luck.

Mike D

67/68 slammed, blown C10 so close

Dandeluxe · 10-19-2002, 10:36 AM

thanks to all you guys for all your suggestions, i think im gonna go with 2 inch lower springs from early classic, i think this would get me close to what i want , which is even stance front and back

HvyChevy454 · 10-20-2002, 12:24 PM

i did a 2 1/2'' drop w/ square tubing it helped straightend out the pinion angle and so far i have not seen any paprticular amounts of wear, i just need to put an adjustabe panhard bar on it.

HvyChevy454 · 10-26-2002, 08:26 PM

heres a pic

HoneyBeeMan68 · 05-05-2024, 10:18 PM

is it made that way so when you load up the back you are now level?

67C10Step · 05-06-2024, 09:20 AM

I would go with the spring option. If you go blocks you could get into scrub line issues depending up on the block you are running and your tire/wheel combination. That is, if you have a flat the bottom of the trailing arm would drag the ground.

Super nice truck, by the way. More photos inside and out in this thread would not be a disappointment.

leegreen · 05-06-2024, 11:40 AM

21 year old thread, but still a valid question.

If you look at old brochures you will see this is not the stock stance, they were much closer to level.
I'd guess someone sold OP springs from a heavy half/camper special longbox.

Chevelle / full size sedan springs will bolt right into trailing arm trucks. A set from a wagon will give you a couple inches drop and a softer ride. Add some air shocks if you occasionally need to carry a load.

Dead Parrot · 05-15-2024, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leegreen

21 year old thread, but still a valid question.

If you look at old brochures you will see this is not the stock stance, they were much closer to level.
I'd guess someone sold OP springs from a heavy half/camper special longbox.

Chevelle / full size sedan springs will bolt right into trailing arm trucks. A set from a wagon will give you a couple inches drop and a softer ride. Add some air shocks if you occasionally need to carry a load.

Very possible that the original owner or near to it was going for the 'Muscle Car' look. That was very popular in the early 70's.

10-06-2002, 08:39 PM	#1
Dandeluxe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: st.louis mo. Posts: 717	Stock Height Stance???? I PUT ALL NEW SPRINGS, KYB GAS SHOCKS, ALL NEW FRONT END PARTS, BUT NOW HAVE DECIDED I DONT LIKE THE FACTORY STANCE, TOO MUCH RAKE IN THE BACK. MY ? IS, WOULD ME CHANGING THE REAR SPRINGS IN THE REAR MAKE MY TRUCK SIT LEVEL. I LIKE THE FRONT STANCE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT THE SAME IN THE REAR. MAYBE 2 INCH LOWER SPRINGS IN THE REAR MIGHT MAKE IT SET THE WAY I WANT? ANY IDEAS? Attached Images __________________ 1969 cst swb 350/400 th . DANNY C . ["]FRIENDS DONT LET FRIENDS DRIVE F@RD$!! 1969 cst swb corvette hugger orange with 400 hp sbc I started out with nothing and i held on to it

10-06-2002, 10:15 PM	#2
Primered_69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 1,409	Hey I know you wanted advice but I just wanted to tell you that even with the absence of primer you got one nice looking truck __________________ 1969 Chevy LWB - with shaved handles; 3 1/2 front/ 5 1/2 rear drop; (waiting to be put back together)

10-08-2002, 09:11 PM	#4
73GMC Proud American Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Great State of Texas, USA Posts: 97	lower the rear It would be best to use 2" lowering springs. crazy AL- Can't use lowering block on coil rear suspension, you probably knew that already but I figure you were thinkin about 73-87's.

10-08-2002, 11:09 PM	#5
Alvin Never Done? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,435	As far as i know, you can buy lowering blocks for coil spring equipped trucks, they just go under the axle and above the control arm, and come with longer u-bolts. Someone correct me if I am wrong! __________________ Ethel - The Legend Continues... Ethel has been sold.

10-10-2002, 07:24 PM	#7
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	i made my own lowering blocks and just bought longer u bolts __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

10-06-2002, 11:07 PM	#3
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,402	You might try a 2" lowering block in the rear......I think it would get you pretty close. Pics can make it hard to say for sure, but it looks to be 2-2 1/2 " higher at the rear. Good luck......crazy AL

10-09-2002, 08:27 AM	#6
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,402	Yes, you can use lowering blocks on coil spring trucks.......the axle is mounted above the trail arm from the factory. Alvin is right on, the kits come with longer U bolts. On the leaf spring trucks you cant use lowering blocks........they would be a lift block, as the axle sits under the spring.........Crazy AL

10-14-2002, 10:04 AM	#8
jmil1974 Ain't we cute? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Friendswood, TX Posts: 700	Heavy, Do you have any pinion angle issues like vibration or worn ujoints? That's the only possible downside I see to this method. How far down did you go? __________________ 69 C10 2WD LWB Fleet 350/350 power front disc conversion (6 lug disc kit from gmcpauls) and new engine, PS, A/C, fresh fluids, SHE DRIVES! FOR SALE $3900

10-18-2002, 02:18 AM	#9
blowermtr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Beaufort, SC/ Georgetown, TX Posts: 13	Drop Chevy likes the 2 inch snow plow effect. Your truck (if at origianal stance) should be two inches higher in the rear. Lowering springs would be your best option. You have two others though. One is to cut the springs but a machine shop would have to reshape the coil because the top and bottom coils of the spring are smaller diameter than the rest (not a problem in the front however if you later decide you want to drop it too, in the front only the top has a smaller diameter so you can cut the bottom, then heat it up and pound the coil flat to sit on your control arm.) Back to the rear. They are also progressive coils so when you chop the top or bottom the new top or bottom coils will be closer. In essence it will be a little stiffer, in actuality you won't notice a thing. The other option is not suggested but fun to do, especially if you are going to get different springs anyway. Until you get them if you want it lower, just heat the coils to see what you are going to have. Do one side at a time and take it slow. It isn't as hard as everyone says to make it acuarate but just take it slow and measure off the tire to the fender. The bump stops may not be acurate. Warning: if you go to far there is no turning back. You may be chopping the front springs too. Best of luck. Mike D 67/68 slammed, blown C10 so close

10-19-2002, 10:36 AM	#10
Dandeluxe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: st.louis mo. Posts: 717	SPRINGS? thanks to all you guys for all your suggestions, i think im gonna go with 2 inch lower springs from early classic, i think this would get me close to what i want , which is even stance front and back __________________ 1969 cst swb 350/400 th . DANNY C . ["]FRIENDS DONT LET FRIENDS DRIVE F@RD$!! 1969 cst swb corvette hugger orange with 400 hp sbc I started out with nothing and i held on to it

10-20-2002, 12:24 PM	#11
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	i did a 2 1/2'' drop w/ square tubing it helped straightend out the pinion angle and so far i have not seen any paprticular amounts of wear, i just need to put an adjustabe panhard bar on it. __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

10-26-2002, 08:26 PM	#12
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	heres a pic Attached Images __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

05-05-2024, 10:18 PM	#13
HoneyBeeMan68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Northern, Iowa Posts: 55	Re: Stock Height Stance???? is it made that way so when you load up the back you are now level?

05-06-2024, 09:20 AM	#14
67C10Step Registered User Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Beebe, AR Posts: 2,475	Re: Stock Height Stance???? I would go with the spring option. If you go blocks you could get into scrub line issues depending up on the block you are running and your tire/wheel combination. That is, if you have a flat the bottom of the trailing arm would drag the ground. Super nice truck, by the way. More photos inside and out in this thread would not be a disappointment. __________________ 1967 C10 1980 Jeep CJ5 2020 Toyota 4Runner 2024 Toyota Tundra

05-06-2024, 11:40 AM	#15
leegreen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Surrey BC Posts: 915	Re: Stock Height Stance???? 21 year old thread, but still a valid question. If you look at old brochures you will see this is not the stock stance, they were much closer to level. I'd guess someone sold OP springs from a heavy half/camper special longbox. Chevelle / full size sedan springs will bolt right into trailing arm trucks. A set from a wagon will give you a couple inches drop and a softer ride. Add some air shocks if you occasionally need to carry a load.



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