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ohsocountry86 · 03-07-2008, 11:34 AM

I was wondering i have always heard between springs or a flip kit or whatever how low can u go without a c-notch. also if u do a flip kit or whatever is it bad to just cut springs the old owner melted the ones i got now and i got an extra set for free can i just cut them i heard it gives you a bad ride how bad?

shifty · 03-07-2008, 11:42 AM

Just to save me from typing a lot, do a quick search for cutting coils and you'll get a ton of threads telling you everything you'll need to know (look for related titles).

There is a lot of info, including how much each coil cut will get you, the safest number of coils, adverse effects, and other info you need (shocks, etc.)

Good luck.

shifty · 03-07-2008, 11:44 AM

(example: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...=cutting+coils )

ohsocountry86 · 03-07-2008, 11:54 AM

thank you that was really helpful what about the first question how low is to low before a c notch or something else is needed

badchev69 · 03-07-2008, 11:59 AM

anything over 5 and you are on the bump stops.

ohsocountry86 · 03-07-2008, 12:01 PM

guess i will just need to c notch cause i was gonna do 2 in blocks and 4 in drop coils other then needing to c notch any other suprizes i can expect

shifty · 03-07-2008, 12:12 PM

well, technically you don't need to notch, you could just put a bumptop on the bottom of the framerail and let the axle smack into it. it's not that much diff't. you're really only giving up about an inch of the travel it could've had. but if you drop that low, you'll really benefit from ditching your old panhard bar and getting an adjustable one like the unit ECE sells ("super panhard bar" is what it's called on their site). otherwise your ass end is gonna shift sideways and be outta whack.

if you go 6-7+ inches drop, the top of the gearbox/pumpkin is gonna smack into the bottom of the bed anyway.

i've seen guys trucks here that are running bags with no notch and they looked nice and slammed while sitting on the bumpstop they put under the framerail.

So .. yeah .. up to you, really.

They sell really shallow "Pancake" bumpstops. They're round and flat like the shape of an Advil cut in half and made out of polyeurethane. I have a couple downstairs and can find out the company if you need it (if I can remember in the morning).

shifty · 03-07-2008, 12:15 PM

ps -

check this thread:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=255929

Lots of good info and links, and if you read really close you can find some guys in there running bags with NO notch. it will give you an idea of what you're looking at.

ohsocountry86 · 03-07-2008, 01:01 PM

yeah if you could remember who sells the panacake bumpstops that would be awesome

cameeks · 03-07-2008, 01:13 PM

are you talking about the coils (springs) in the rear? If so you can not cut those.

ohsocountry86 · 03-07-2008, 01:17 PM

yeah i just learned that thank god for this site or i would be like a ford found on road dead lol

cameeks · 03-07-2008, 02:26 PM

I got my 4" drop coils for around $100

shifty · 03-07-2008, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohsocountry86

yeah if you could remember who sells the panacake bumpstops that would be awesome

I have never ordered from this company before, so I don't know what your shopping experience will be.

With that said, look at this page:
http://www.suspension.com/Bumpstop.htm

The top middle (red) bumpstop is what I'm talking about. It looks like one $9 package contains two bumpstops, if I'm reading that correctly.

**raggedjim** · 03-07-2008, 08:47 PM

You won't need a c-notch at 6". I've done it a ton of times.

Rg

cameeks · 03-07-2008, 11:28 PM

you can just weld the rear end to the frame j/k

ohsocountry86 · 03-08-2008, 12:50 AM

hahahahah that would be awesome

03-07-2008, 11:34 AM	#1
ohsocountry86 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: clackamas oregon Posts: 269	how low is to low for the back I was wondering i have always heard between springs or a flip kit or whatever how low can u go without a c-notch. also if u do a flip kit or whatever is it bad to just cut springs the old owner melted the ones i got now and i got an extra set for free can i just cut them i heard it gives you a bad ride how bad? __________________ I can die happy now i own a c-10 TRICKNRACY cars baby TRICKNRACYCARS.ORG

03-07-2008, 11:42 AM	#2
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: how low is to low for the back Just to save me from typing a lot, do a quick search for cutting coils and you'll get a ton of threads telling you everything you'll need to know (look for related titles). There is a lot of info, including how much each coil cut will get you, the safest number of coils, adverse effects, and other info you need (shocks, etc.) Good luck. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-07-2008, 11:44 AM	#3
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: how low is to low for the back (example: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...=cutting+coils ) __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-07-2008, 11:54 AM	#4
ohsocountry86 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: clackamas oregon Posts: 269	Re: how low is to low for the back thank you that was really helpful what about the first question how low is to low before a c notch or something else is needed __________________ I can die happy now i own a c-10 TRICKNRACY cars baby TRICKNRACYCARS.ORG

03-07-2008, 11:59 AM	#5
badchev69 Active Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Stayton, Oregon 97383 Posts: 178	Re: how low is to low for the back anything over 5 and you are on the bump stops. __________________ 1969 C10 SWB /350 vortech/th400 1968 SWB build (in progress) 1969 SWB build (my son's future project) 1968 camaro yellow/white stripes (wife's car) 2011 GMC reg cab short bed 2wd daily driver 5/7 drop on 22's 1972 K5 Blazer 13"/11"lift,38"M/T MTZ's, 3" cust exst. 350/350 (sold it )

03-07-2008, 12:01 PM	#6
ohsocountry86 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: clackamas oregon Posts: 269	Re: how low is to low for the back guess i will just need to c notch cause i was gonna do 2 in blocks and 4 in drop coils other then needing to c notch any other suprizes i can expect __________________ I can die happy now i own a c-10 TRICKNRACY cars baby TRICKNRACYCARS.ORG

03-07-2008, 12:12 PM	#7
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: how low is to low for the back well, technically you don't need to notch, you could just put a bumptop on the bottom of the framerail and let the axle smack into it. it's not that much diff't. you're really only giving up about an inch of the travel it could've had. but if you drop that low, you'll really benefit from ditching your old panhard bar and getting an adjustable one like the unit ECE sells ("super panhard bar" is what it's called on their site). otherwise your ass end is gonna shift sideways and be outta whack. if you go 6-7+ inches drop, the top of the gearbox/pumpkin is gonna smack into the bottom of the bed anyway. i've seen guys trucks here that are running bags with no notch and they looked nice and slammed while sitting on the bumpstop they put under the framerail. So .. yeah .. up to you, really. They sell really shallow "Pancake" bumpstops. They're round and flat like the shape of an Advil cut in half and made out of polyeurethane. I have a couple downstairs and can find out the company if you need it (if I can remember in the morning). __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM. Last edited by shifty; 03-07-2008 at 12:13 PM.

03-07-2008, 12:15 PM	#8
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: how low is to low for the back ps - check this thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=255929 Lots of good info and links, and if you read really close you can find some guys in there running bags with NO notch. it will give you an idea of what you're looking at. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-07-2008, 01:01 PM	#9
ohsocountry86 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: clackamas oregon Posts: 269	Re: how low is to low for the back yeah if you could remember who sells the panacake bumpstops that would be awesome __________________ I can die happy now i own a c-10 TRICKNRACY cars baby TRICKNRACYCARS.ORG

03-07-2008, 01:13 PM	#10
cameeks Long Fleet Club Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Deer Park, TX Posts: 5,666	Re: how low is to low for the back are you talking about the coils (springs) in the rear? If so you can not cut those. __________________ Chris Meeks '69 Chevy Custom/10 Long Bed <-- Thread of the work I did before selling. Truck is now finished to the new owners design and running around. I was shown some pictures of the finished product. At least it survived the junk yard. FAQ Index by Krue Site Vendors Subscribe Here Forum Rules

03-07-2008, 01:17 PM	#11
ohsocountry86 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: clackamas oregon Posts: 269	Re: how low is to low for the back yeah i just learned that thank god for this site or i would be like a ford found on road dead lol __________________ I can die happy now i own a c-10 TRICKNRACY cars baby TRICKNRACYCARS.ORG

03-07-2008, 02:26 PM	#12
cameeks Long Fleet Club Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Deer Park, TX Posts: 5,666	Re: how low is to low for the back I got my 4" drop coils for around $100 __________________ Chris Meeks '69 Chevy Custom/10 Long Bed <-- Thread of the work I did before selling. Truck is now finished to the new owners design and running around. I was shown some pictures of the finished product. At least it survived the junk yard. FAQ Index by Krue Site Vendors Subscribe Here Forum Rules

03-07-2008, 08:47 PM	#14
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,561	Re: how low is to low for the back You won't need a c-notch at 6". I've done it a ton of times. Rg __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=856475 '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203 Ideas - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=851743

03-07-2008, 11:28 PM	#15
cameeks Long Fleet Club Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Deer Park, TX Posts: 5,666	Re: how low is to low for the back you can just weld the rear end to the frame j/k __________________ Chris Meeks '69 Chevy Custom/10 Long Bed <-- Thread of the work I did before selling. Truck is now finished to the new owners design and running around. I was shown some pictures of the finished product. At least it survived the junk yard. FAQ Index by Krue Site Vendors Subscribe Here Forum Rules Last edited by cameeks; 03-07-2008 at 11:28 PM.

03-08-2008, 12:50 AM	#16
ohsocountry86 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: clackamas oregon Posts: 269	Re: how low is to low for the back hahahahah that would be awesome __________________ I can die happy now i own a c-10 TRICKNRACY cars baby TRICKNRACYCARS.ORG



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