patina or no patina?

[Stitch]

I really want to do a restomod thing on my 84...old school, but updated with subtle little things that take a few minutes to notice...the truck is blue and white two tone and is patina'd pretty good...as good as I want it to get for now anyways...the hood and the bedside tops are rusted and the paints faded...when I bought the truck, I had all intentions of doing a patina finish on it and doing painted shop door signs on it...I run a street rod interior shop and was going to put the business name, slogan, and phone # on the side and patina it...now I'm having second thoughts...I would like to do some wheels like tvblazer's, but in an 18 or 17 and do a 5/7 static drop on it...I also have some 99 tahoe buckets to go in it and I'm going to put a 55 chevy dash into it also...I am going to go totally retro with it...the seats will look like they were made for the 55 era and I'm also thinking of going with a 73ish front end (which negates my patina on the front end). I also, have a little bit of body work to do to it, but not much and I was wondering if when I repair it I should go with grey primer or go with blue or white primer/sealer depending on where the repair lands in the paint scheme...I have a guy that does outstanding paint jobs and my shop and his shop work hand in hand...there are a ton of cars that he paints that we do the interiors in...he said that if I got it prepped and ready to paint and bought the paint materials, he'd spray it for $300...this is a friend only sorta advertisement favor for me and him...alot of people would see the truck when the come to my shop and most everyone wants paint done also...so this way I could show them his work...

my plan was to paint the shop doors and leave it patina'd until all the bodywork and interior is done and then have him paint it back factory blue and white two toned...

please give me your opinions on whether I should just have him go ahead and paint the truck first or should I ride out the patina thing...I love the look, and I know it's my truck and I should do what I want, but there's alot of people that I have told that I want to patina the truck and they look at me crooked...a really good friend of mine has been threatening to take the truck in the middle of the night and primer the hood... ...I just don't want people thinking I'm crazy that's all...but maybe I shouldn't care...I do have a badass interior shop...lol

Chuck.

[84 400]

IT is a representation of your shop so do to it as you want. I think that the look is better suited for older trucks but it might look good. Maybe post up some pictures of your truck to help others give you ideas. Bottom line is some will like it and some will think it is ratty looking. It is all up to you.

[old Rusty C10]

you could ask someone to do that in photoshop too so you get the idea what it looks like

[78 Chevyrado]

Since you have an interior shop, do the outside however you want to, just so the interior looks great, since that's your showcase. Though from a buisiness standpoint, if its painted up with no patina, everybody will like it fine, with patina, some may not like it and it could scare off a few people, you never know. It all depends on the customers As long as the interior looks great either way should work fine though. Me personally I don't like patina since I was forced for many years to drive pre-patina'd vehicles. Some of them look good though, but that's because these trucks just look good. If paint is available and so is money, I will always go for paint asap.

[Richard D]

This whole rusty "patina" crap is the stupidest fad ever. When I was growing up, and not that long ago, we wouldn't be caught dead in a rusty vehicle.

[Cherub]

Since your an interior shop and not a paint shop i wouldnt be too concerned about the exterior. So as long as the interior represents your work/shop then Im all for the idea.


Cherub

[SnS C10]

think about it this way- how much better would your business look if a customer was not only blown away by the inside of the truck, but the outside as well? To me, the flat rusted crap look makes not only the truck look un-professional, but the person who owns it too, especially one who operates a business. Just my thoughts

[budgetstperformance]

i personaly realy like the patina look but my style is influenced by rat rods and i think the patina look is not right for every truck. in order to pull off the patina succesfully you need to have the right stance, and wheel & tire combo. the truck needs to look tough. if you do your interior is as described. it could be cool but without the drop and chubby wheel & tire you'll look like just another guy driving an old rusty truck.

take a look at this thread to get some ideas http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=289510 there not square bodys but good for ideas there is also an article on makeing your new shop logo look old to match.

basicly before patina became popular it was hot roders that couldn't afford a paint job and didn't care how it looked as long as it was fast. if it was me i would work on your suspension and interior do a old school lookin pin strip logo and drive it for a while when you get tired of it do you paint job last.

[84 400]

Originally Posted by Shaun23a11en

think about it this way- how much better would your business look if a customer was not only blown away by the inside of the truck, but the outside as well? To me, the flat rusted crap look makes not only the truck look un-professional, but the person who owns it too, especially one who operates a business. Just my thoughts

Yeah and we never see them up hear because exposed rusty metal will rot quickly with the moisture. I can't really get nto the look because here if it is not painted the metal will get damaged and you truck will soon look like swiss chease

[killthewabbit]

I agree about the stance and wheels/tires being nailed either way. If you're looking to make a shop truck, chances are you're hoping it gets some favorable attention when you drive it around.

I would suggest getting everything else right on the truck first and trying the door logos for now. If you don't like it, you can always paint it. Hard to to go back the other way once it's painted.

I personally like rusted old stuff with the right look. VWs pull the look off all the time, and it looks better to me than shiny VWs. Fat fendered trucks can pull it off pretty easy too. Not sure about our trucks without seeing it, but it's easy enough to find out. If you don't like it, you can do what you were planning to do anyway.

[jdurant]

I agree with budgetstperformance. It doesn't work with all trucks. And the stance and wheel tire combo are 100% crucial. I'm not in love with this movement, but have seen some stuff that I do really really like. But, man if you want answers to these questions--you gotta post pics.
I think the 73 grill idea is the best option(I think with the mesh painted semi black) , these grills make these trucks look much older. And on the whole, I think it's just good marketing to show an old patina on the outside to show the age of the truck, but then have a super great new interior to show off your ability and craftsmanship. It's kinda like a before and after all at one time. Just make sure and leave the tint off the windows. Besides, if you decide you don't like it--then get it painted.

[firedrag79]

[Cherub]

not an 84 but im diggin it

[Square84]

personally i would leave it patina just cause it looks sick with the right stance and wheels and it will make the awesome interior stick out even more. plus you dont have to worry about beatin on it who cares if it gets scratched. the door logos look good and give it that old school feel. but i am biased since every vehicle i've ever owned has been unpainted. the the one i got that was painted i primered, and i'm a paint and body guy. its also funny when people ask what color you gonna paint it and you tell them it is painted i love the look on thier faces. either way its what you would like and be happy with so just ask yourself what you would prefer?

[Stitch]

the truck isn't as patina'd as the hot rod city truck, but it does have a decent amount of surface rust on it...I'll have to get pictures up on here tomorrow, it's dark now...

and for everyone who's asking about my drop and wheels, I'm going with 20" coys and a 6/8 static drop...I originally posted that I was going to go with 18s and a 5/7, but after looking at classic87's truck, I'm in love...I can deal with a little rubbing and hitting bumpstops for that look...

the reason I really want to keep the patina is not because I'm cheap, because I can have a top notch paint job for pocket change...I like the look, but I was wondering what yall thought about it as a marketing aspect...I'm going to have the truck in my booth at different car shows and also I'll be showing the truck when I can't get or they don't have vendor booths...I want the wow factor...the interior is already going to be over the top, I just thought the old aged exterior would make the interior pop even more...

Chuck

[firedrag79]

I think the patina look can look good and can look bad. It just depends on the truck. Lets see the actual truck then you can tell if the patina looks good or not.

[Cherub]

Originally Posted by Fat Hoe

the truck isn't as patina'd as the hot rod city truck, but it does have a decent amount of surface rust on it...I'll have to get pictures up on here tomorrow, it's dark now...

and for everyone who's asking about my drop and wheels, I'm going with 20" coys and a 6/8 static drop...I originally posted that I was going to go with 18s and a 5/7, but after looking at classic87's truck, I'm in love...I can deal with a little rubbing and hitting bumpstops for that look...

the reason I really want to keep the patina is not because I'm cheap, because I can have a top notch paint job for pocket change...I like the look, but I was wondering what yall thought about it as a marketing aspect...I'm going to have the truck in my booth at different car shows and also I'll be showing the truck when I can't get or they don't have vendor booths...I want the wow factor...the interior is already going to be over the top, I just thought the old aged exterior would make the interior pop even more...

Chuck

From a strickly marketing aspect i think its a great idea. You want the eyes to be drawn to what your selling(interior in this case). Add a shop logo on the side and it will be a vehicle that people will remember. I say go for it and keep us up to date with some PICs

[shrtbx]

having surface rust all over the top of a truck is actually a look? Kinda dig it.

[Square84]

fat hoe we need some pics of yours for reference.

[Stitch]

I'm gonna go take some pics right now...I was going to take some last night but it was raining so no go...I'll be back shortly with some pics...

Chuck

[Stitch]

pics...

don't mind the mud, it was pouring here last night...

Chuck

[Cherub]

patina the sides a bit more drop it on some rims and you have a nice shop truck.

[streetstar]

Your truck will look much better with a nice stockish paint job and a sick interior, dropped over some 18's (or 20's)

The patina thing will go the way of the "black primer, red wheels" fad pretty soon ---- only the strongest examples of the genre will survive (that Hot Rod City truck for example --- sweet and timeless)

[Stitch]

everything is pretty much faded all to hell...

what I think I'm going to do is put some wheels on it and drop it and then go ahead and put the logos on the doors and do the body work...then I'll start on the interior and when the interior is done, I'll paint it back factory blue and white like it is now...but it'll have a 73ish front end on it...to give it an older look...

Chuck.

[Palf70Step]

Paint it. You'll get a lot more looks for you business with a well put together truck.