WHat will I have to do to get these wheels to fit?

[bwkennedy]

I have got a 66' swb stepside I am building and I am wanting to put 22x10 wheels in the rear. Not really wanting to I already have the wheels so they are going under. I have heard anyhting from tubbing the rearend to putting a wider fender on the rear. I am open to the wider fender but not the tubs cause I really like the wood bed and do not want to mess that up. So any help would be great.. Thanks

[vin63]

Not sure about everyone else, but I would need to know the backspace measurement of the wheels and the width of your rear end (is it stock width, or has it been narrowed), if the truck is lowered and by how much, and what size tires you plan on mounting. This is assuming that there are no issues with the bolt pattern.

[502tripower]

Originally Posted by vin63

Not sure about everyone else, but I would need to know the backspace measurement of the wheels and the width of your rear end (is it stock width, or has it been narrowed), if the truck is lowered and by how much, and what size tires you plan on mounting. This is assuming that there are no issues with the bolt pattern.

As vin63 said need all of the measurements. If you just bought wheels without knowing the backset its a gamble.

[SIR]

.you mentioned not wanting to 'tub' the rear,but you could use the rear wheel tubs from a fleetside and trim then to the size you want.I don't suggest "spacers" to unpredictable.

[bwkennedy]

I am in the process of ordering the wheels. The rear end is a stock 12 bolt rearend. It will have air ride suspension so the drop will be probably as low as I can without having to raise the bed or hump the mid floor up. I am wanting the bed to look as original as possible. As far as bolt pattern a have switched out to a 5x4.5 bolt pattern. The tires I am wanting something in a 40 series tire width I am not so sure of. Thanks

[scotts62]

Ya they might be a tight fit especially if you dont want to tub the bed even just a couple of inches to make room for the wheels. Just depends on the backspace combination for it to work ok. Mine are 20x8 they fit just fine

[bwkennedy]

Well I have seen a Fender kit @ brotherstrucks for rear fenders that are 3" inches wider than stock . Figured that would be the route to go.Easier and no modifications. The story is I bought my front wheels off of Ebay new 22x8.5 Billet Specialties in the box for 500.00 for both. Now that Billet Specialties no longer makes that style. I am lucky enough that they have enough stock to make on last pair 22x10. So I am hurrying up to get my truck ready to get those wheels.

[scotts62]

Thats cool, good luck with them, post some pics when you get them mounted

[bwkennedy]

Scotts62 what size wheel are you running up front. and what did you have to do to the inner fenders if anything.

[1Bad62Pro/Street]

Don't forget the sway of the truck as well. If the tires are a close/tight fit in the rear, the tires may rub the inside of the fenders when you go around curves. That's what happened with my truck. Little cut marks on some areas. So I used a little persuasion with the rubber hammer with the inner lip.
Like the guys said backspacing is important as well. The Fender kit @ brotherstrucks are cool too. Can't wait to see ya truck Bud!!!!


http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=315664

[bwkennedy]

If I tub it that would get more tire underneath right. If I use the wider fenders that would only push my tires outward. That is what I am thinking about doin is the mini tub prolly around 3 inches. Does anybody know what Offset it may be with using a 22x10 wheel. Thanks

[502tripower]

Originally Posted by bwkennedy

If I tub it that would get more tire underneath right. If I use the wider fenders that would only push my tires outward. That is what I am thinking about doin is the mini tub prolly around 3 inches. Does anybody know what Offset it may be with using a 22x10 wheel. Thanks

I think your going to need about a 6" backset. On both my Impala and my truck I have 9.5" wheel with a 5.5 backset. On the truck 63' SWB I widened my wheel wells 1.5". Also in an earlier post you said you were switching out the 5 on 5 bolt pattern to a 5 on 4.5. Why are you doing that? Is that the bolt pattern on the wheels you bought on eBay? Your front is still going to be the 5 on 5.

[bwkennedy]

Originally Posted by 502tripower

I think your going to need about a 6" backset. On both my Impala and my truck I have 9.5" wheel with a 5.5 backset. On the truck 63' SWB I widened my wheel wells 1.5". Also in an earlier post you said you were switching out the 5 on 5 bolt pattern to a 5 on 4.5. Why are you doing that? Is that the bolt pattern on the wheels you bought on eBay? Your front is still going to be the 5 on 5.

502 the truck came with 6 lug wheels and yes the wheels off of ebay were a 5x4.5 bolt pattern . the other reason was I figured there would be a greater selection of wheels out there more than the 6 lug wheel.

[502tripower]

Originally Posted by bwkennedy

I am in the process of ordering the wheels. The rear end is a stock 12 bolt rearend. It will have air ride suspension so the drop will be probably as low as I can without having to raise the bed or hump the mid floor up. I am wanting the bed to look as original as possible. As far as bolt pattern a have switched out to a 5x4.5 bolt pattern. The tires I am wanting something in a 40 series tire width I am not so sure of. Thanks

Originally Posted by bwkennedy

502 the truck came with 6 lug wheels and yes the wheels off of ebay were a 5x4.5 bolt pattern . the other reason was I figured there would be a greater selection of wheels out there more than the 6 lug wheel.

I don't quite understand the 5 on 4.5 bolt pattern. That is Ford. Are you planning to use those on the back redrilling axels and trying to find brake drums to fit? Are you sure you don't mean 5 on 4.75?

[leftcoast66]

Originally Posted by bwkennedy

502 the truck came with 6 lug wheels and yes the wheels off of ebay were a 5x4.5 bolt pattern . the other reason was I figured there would be a greater selection of wheels out there more than the 6 lug wheel.

When you go 5 lug like most of us, that's 5x5 not 5x4.5. What front's will you get 5x4.5 from to fit on the control arms, or what control arms will you be switching to to match whatever spindle you go w/ for 5x4.5

[bwkennedy]

Originally Posted by leftcoast66

When you go 5 lug like most of us, that's 5x5 not 5x4.5. What front's will you get 5x4.5 from to fit on the control arms, or what control arms will you be switching to to match whatever spindle you go w/ for 5x4.5

The front suspension is from Scotts Hot rods in CA. it is a air IFS suspension. And when I bought the wheels off of Ebay the guy was planning to use them on his 72 SWB, so I figured that the bolt pattern would work. When I ordered the front 14" Wilwood disc brakes to fit they said no problem. When I ordered the rear exles form Moser Engineering they asked 6 lug or 5x4.5 bolt pattern. I Figured 5x4.5 was the new bolt pattern. I always thought 5x4.75 bolt pattern was Ford and Dodge.

[bwkennedy]

Originally Posted by 502tripower

I don't quite understand the 5 on 4.5 bolt pattern. That is Ford. Are you planning to use those on the back redrilling axels and trying to find brake drums to fit? Are you sure you don't mean 5 on 4.75?

502 I ordered new axles from Moser engineering and am going to use 12' Wilwood disc brakes. I always thought Ford and Dodge ran the 5x4.75 bolt pattern. I thought Chevy went 6 lug , 5x5, and 5x4.5. I may be wrong.

[502tripower]

Originally Posted by bwkennedy

502 I ordered new axles from Moser engineering and am going to use 12' Wilwood disc brakes. I always thought Ford and Dodge ran the 5x4.75 bolt pattern. I thought Chevy went 6 lug , 5x5, and 5x4.5. I may be wrong.

I don't claim to know all of the bolt patterns but I do know that the Chevrolet light duty trucks are 5X5 and the passenger cars are 5X4.75

5X4.5 is passenger car Ford, 5X4.75 is Chevrolet light passenger car 5x5 is Chevrolet light truck large passenger car and some Ford 9".

[bwkennedy]

502 I did a little research today. You are correct and so am I where I was getting my info was that Chevy S-10 were 5x4.5 bolt pattern everything else was 6 lug, 5x5, and 5x4.75. is what I learned.Because when I was a little boy I had a S-10 Blazer and I had this same trouble when it came to wheels.

[502tripower]

The S10 stuff is a whole nether deal and does not work with these trucks. So the wheels you bought are they 5X4.5, 5X5 or 5X4.75? If they are the 5X4.5 they will not work with the after market or OEM conversions. There is a possibility of the 5X4.75 working. I am working on that for myself.

[bwkennedy]

Originally Posted by 502tripower

The S10 stuff is a whole nether deal and does not work with these trucks. So the wheels you bought are they 5X4.5, 5X5 or 5X4.75? If they are the 5X4.5 they will not work with the after market or OEM conversions. There is a possibility of the 5X4.75 working. I am working on that for myself.

The wheels I have bought are 5x4.5 bolt pattern. Moser made the rear axles for my 66 12 bolt rearend stock size with a 5x4.5 bolt pattern. And Justin from Scotts Hot Rods said we can get rear 12" disc brakes from Wilwood for the 12 bolt rearend and 5x4.5 bolt pattern. The front wheels are also 5x4.5 bolt pattern and fit the Wilwood 14" disc brakes up front with my new Scotts IFS. We are getting off the subject! We are needing to fit the 22x10 wheel in the rear no matter what the lug pattern. We are wanting to know what we may have to do to the frame . and also what we may have to do to the front inner fenders to put 22x8.5 up front. Thanks

[vin63]

You shouldn't have to do anything to the frame...I've had 15x15 wheels on the back of my truck with no frame modification (correct backspacing is obviously important). The only thing is I did not have the rear wheel wells in. I am currently running 16x12s with a 31-inch tall tire. The only thing this time around is I widened the wheel wells in the bed. For the fronts, depending on how low you want to go and how tall the tire is, you may have to build a tub on top of the inner fender structure to allow the tire to tuck up (or cut out a section). I have a 26-inch tall tire up front and the front cross member rests on the ground just before the inner fender rests on top of the tire. If my front tire was 27-inches tall, the inner fender would probably rest on top of the tire before the cross member touched the ground. I hope that helps.

[kizer]

5x4.5 are also the Norm for Jeep.

[bwkennedy]

I new I wasn't going crazy I thought they were on something else too.