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Old 03-16-2009, 11:41 AM   #1
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Boxed Frames

i need pics of trucks with boxed frames, mostly need rear shots with a C notched frame for lowering. Also want to see how u ran the brake, fuel lines etc. Thanks in advance!
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:31 AM   #2
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Re: Boxed Frames

I don't have a full frame that is boxed, just a C-notch. Maybe one of our resident suspension pro's will have some on file.
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:59 PM   #3
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Re: Boxed Frames

Here is a pretty trick boxed frame. They ran alot of the brake lines, fuel lines and so on in the frame. Pretty sweet. Here is a link. Near the bottom of the page shows some before pics. http://www.highgearhotrods.com/retro...%20gallery.htm

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Re: Boxed Frames

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Here is a pretty trick boxed frame. They ran alot of the brake lines, fuel lines and so on in the frame. Pretty sweet. Here is a link. Near the bottom of the page shows some before pics. http://www.highgearhotrods.com/retro...%20gallery.htm

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That's a neat idea, I have a couple questions;
After running the brake and fuel lines then boxing, does the heat from the welder affect the lines?
How would you run your electrical if you were to install a new harness?

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Old 03-17-2009, 08:59 PM   #5
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Re: Boxed Frames

How would you repair a leaking brake line after it's sealed inside the frame rails?
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:07 AM   #6
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Re: Boxed Frames

Better make darn sure nothing leaks "before" closing up the frame.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:14 AM   #7
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How would you repair a leaking brake line after it's sealed inside the frame rails?
How would you know it leaked in the first place?
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:13 AM   #8
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Re: Boxed Frames

Maybe it's just me, but I like the important things where I can get to them, if needed.

I know everyone likes that "clean & smooth" look, but have you ever had a brake line go bad on your daily driver? Or had to replace a fuel filter that in the line?

I think that if you take the time to do a nice, neat (no thumb bends) layout on your lines, the final product is just as nice. And you can work on it too.

Burying them in boxed rails would make me extremely cautious if I had to drill a hole or if a line clamp came loose and caused a line to vibrate and rub a hole in itself........
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:29 AM   #9
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Re: Boxed Frames

If your building a true show vehicle that will be on display, then the time and effort to run the lines inside a boxed frame might be the way to go.

For the more common show and go vehicle routing the lines inside an un-boxed frame hide them quite nicely.

If you really want a boxed frame, the can still be routed nicely on the outside of the inner rails and look just a good.

Here's a nice example or two from our resident tubing expert-bentfab



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If your building a true show vehicle that will be on display, then the time and effort to run the lines inside a boxed frame might be the way to go.

For the more common show and go vehicle routing the lines inside an un-boxed frame hide them quite nicely.

If you really want a boxed frame, the can still be routed nicely on the outside of the inner rails and look just a good.

Here's a nice example or two from our resident tubing expert-bentfab




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Old 03-18-2009, 08:18 PM   #11
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How would you know it leaked in the first place?
Brake fluid level would drop over time.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:20 PM   #12
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Dam...never thought I would be jealous of a pink under carriage.
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Brake fluid level would drop over time.
I think you would loose a brake pedal before you relize your brake fluid is low.
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:34 AM   #15
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A slow leak would not necessarily equate to a softer pedal.
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A slow leak would not necessarily equate to a softer pedal.
Correct. But when your brake fluid is gone you have no pedal and not knowing when your loosing fluid is the problem. I know because I lost my brakes in my 64 when it still had drums on all 4's. Pushed on the pedal and no brakes !!! Got lucky cause the light changed green right before I got to the signal. Come to find out the front soft line got a hole from age.

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Old 03-19-2009, 11:09 AM   #17
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Re: Boxed Frames

Same thing happen to me in a '65 I had back in high school (wish i still had that one) ... except it was a rear wheel cylinder ... I swear the truck felt like it picked up speed once I hit the woah-pedal!
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:37 PM   #18
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.... ... I swear the truck felt like it picked up speed once I hit the woah-pedal!
That will make you ruin a good pair of short....
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You got that right!
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Re: Boxed Frames

had that happen on a snowy gravel road in a monte carlo.only had front brakes and couldn't turn at all for the corning that was coming up. went right into the ditch and high centered the car on the snow pack.

luckily it was at a slow speed.

damn ford had to pull me out.
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