Changing a vin plate - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

srsummers · 07-25-2009, 04:26 PM

What it the "titled" part of a truck? Is it the Vin plate on the cab? Is it the frame? How can I legally change my cab to a Big Window cab? Can I drill out my Vin plate and out put it on a Big Window Cab?

creep · 07-25-2009, 04:56 PM

I would call the DMV and/or state police headquarters, they should know. It may vary from state to state.

joe231 · 07-25-2009, 05:02 PM

your vin should match the number on your frame.

but, yeah check with the local authorities. I believe the cab you are going to use will need a title also then they will consolidate the 2 numbers and give you a new title.

70 Suburban · 07-25-2009, 05:33 PM

not sure there but if you are goin to swap cabs you can have a troper watch you take it off and install the vin plate on a new cab with the rivits you have to get from the state

**scotts62** · 07-25-2009, 09:52 PM

People do the swap from small window to large window without switching the cabs,

Tx Firefighter · 07-26-2009, 06:12 AM

First, it is illegal to drill the rivets and swap the VIN plate to another cab without going through the legal process of documenting it with the state. Your state will have a procedure to do this. Different states have different procedures.

joe231 · 07-26-2009, 10:10 AM

where can you get the rivets?

Throwback · 07-26-2009, 11:32 AM

I see this thread being closed in the near future. Swapping vin plates is HIGHLY Illegal unless documented by a state official. Contact your Local DMV or State Trooper office to find out more.

I would not do anything mentioned by others in this thread unless it involves the Legal route.

Skirkpat · 07-26-2009, 11:38 AM

WOW...Except for "check with the State Troopers" this thread is full of horrible, and illegal advice...did I say that out loud.

terd ferguson · 07-26-2009, 11:42 AM

Throwback and Skirkpat are right. It is illegal to swap VINs. What I posted should not be considered advice, just jibber jabber. Just sayin'.

joe231 · 07-26-2009, 12:10 PM

I'm not swapping my vin...but I did pull it off to get the cab blasted, so now I need to re-attach it......are these correct?

http://trimtags.com/rivets.html

**scotts62** · 07-26-2009, 12:32 PM

Those look like them Joe

redneckgirl · 07-26-2009, 12:49 PM

Definately check with your local DMV. It may be required to involve the state police. Here in Maryland you do.

ALSO...Any illegal advice posted in this thread WILL be removed. Keep it legal!

**1971 GMC SHORTY** · 07-26-2009, 12:55 PM

Thats a FEDERAL CRIME... You have to get it Blue Tagged bye the Highway Patrol...

71meangreenc10 · 07-26-2009, 12:56 PM

Those in the pic doesnt look like the rose bud rivets that 67-72 era trucks came with, I got lucky a few years ago and bought some on the board here because the body shop removed my tag without asking, talk to the DMV, they may be able to get you in the right direction, dont know if you plan on moving or how your state does inspections (if any) but some states will check the rivets to see if they have been replaced,,,,then its nothing but a headache after.....

Smitty

71meangreenc10 · 07-26-2009, 01:00 PM

Squidbillies RULE.......

Smitty

jonzcustomshop · 07-26-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231

I'm not swapping my vin...but I did pull it off to get the cab blasted, so now I need to re-attach it......are these correct?

http://trimtags.com/rivets.html

the best thing to do when blasting is to cover it with a piece of duct tape,but I guess if there is rust behind it ,it would always bleed through. those look like the fasteners for the trim tag / data plate on the kick panel.
the vin rivets look more like a pop rivet on 456,on 60-63 I they are spot welded on, which create more re-attachment issues if they fall off.

terd ferguson · 07-26-2009, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71meangreenc10

Those in the pic doesnt look like the rose bud rivets that 67-72 era trucks came with, I got lucky a few years ago and bought some on the board here because the body shop removed my tag without asking, talk to the DMV, they may be able to get you in the right direction, dont know if you plan on moving or how your state does inspections (if any) but some states will check the rivets to see if they have been replaced,,,,then its nothing but a headache after.....

Squidbillies RULE.......

Smitty

In NC there is no inspection what so ever on vehicles older than 35 years old. No emissions test, no safety inspection, no nothing.

And yes, Squidbillies do indeed rule. They are in fact cooler'n'hell.

71meangreenc10 · 07-26-2009, 02:30 PM

Well,,,
Speeking from my position (moving every 3+ years) sometimes I change titles from state to state, easier that way sometimes, I actually had the DMV inspect the vehicles, checking vins, checking frames climbing on my trucks to see if they were legit. Glad to here NC doesnt mess with 35+ year old vehicles as I have 3 of those. Hopefully its state wide and not by county. AZ does smog tests only in certain counties.

Smitty

Cant wait to find the DVD seasons of squidbillies.....when they ever come available.

terd ferguson · 07-26-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71meangreenc10

Well,,,
Speeking from my position (moving every 3+ years) sometimes I change titles from state to state, easier that way sometimes, I actually had the DMV inspect the vehicles, checking vins, checking frames climbing on my trucks to see if they were legit. Glad to here NC doesnt mess with 35+ year old vehicles as I have 3 of those. Hopefully its state wide and not by county. AZ does smog tests only in certain counties.

Smitty

Cant wait to find the DVD seasons of squidbillies.....when they ever come available.

I think Seasons 1 & 2 are available now. New episodes from Season 3 are currently re-running on Adult Swim now.

joe231 · 07-26-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop

the best thing to do when blasting is to cover it with a piece of duct tape,but I guess if there is rust behind it ,it would always bleed through. those look like the fasteners for the trim tag / data plate on the kick panel.
the vin rivets look more like a pop rivet on 456,on 60-63 I they are spot welded on, which create more re-attachment issues if they fall off.

Cool, thanks John!

70 Suburban · 07-26-2009, 07:57 PM

as stated the state has these rivits. if you do it corectly then they can supply them

07-25-2009, 04:26 PM	#1
srsummers Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 137	Changing a vin plate What it the "titled" part of a truck? Is it the Vin plate on the cab? Is it the frame? How can I legally change my cab to a Big Window cab? Can I drill out my Vin plate and out put it on a Big Window Cab?

07-25-2009, 04:56 PM	#2
creep Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elyria, OH Posts: 1,523	Re: Changing a vin plate I would call the DMV and/or state police headquarters, they should know. It may vary from state to state. __________________ ((..)) ((0)) '63 GMC lwb, 383, th350, lays frame, genuine patina. The Build Thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374267 '88 Astro cargo bagged, shaved, phantom grille. SOLD '50 Chevy 2 door sedan awaiting attention. 2014 Silverado Ext cab, 5.3, daily driver.

07-25-2009, 05:02 PM	#3
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Changing a vin plate your vin should match the number on your frame. but, yeah check with the local authorities. I believe the cab you are going to use will need a title also then they will consolidate the 2 numbers and give you a new title. __________________ *CHEVY ONLY* Last edited by joe231; 07-25-2009 at 05:02 PM.

07-25-2009, 05:33 PM	#4
70 Suburban Rods Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bryan, TX Posts: 1,398	Re: Changing a vin plate not sure there but if you are goin to swap cabs you can have a troper watch you take it off and install the vin plate on a new cab with the rivits you have to get from the state __________________ Just keepin it simple. 1965 C-10 Ext cab build. 350??(Does it count at 2 truck if I had to cut one up?) 1966 C-10 lwb 283 auto 1970 Suburban in pieces 1971 Blazer 4wd....restore someday. all factory CST 1972 Blazer 4wd parts truck still a roller 1972 GMC Sierra Grandee 1998 Chevy ext driver. 2005 F**D the wife drive...(cant fix women)

07-25-2009, 09:52 PM	#5
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: Changing a vin plate People do the swap from small window to large window without switching the cabs, __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62 Last edited by redneckgirl; 07-26-2009 at 12:43 PM. Reason: legality

07-26-2009, 06:12 AM	#6
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Changing a vin plate First, it is illegal to drill the rivets and swap the VIN plate to another cab without going through the legal process of documenting it with the state. Your state will have a procedure to do this. Different states have different procedures. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin Last edited by redneckgirl; 07-26-2009 at 12:44 PM. Reason: legality

07-26-2009, 10:10 AM	#7
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Changing a vin plate where can you get the rivets? __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

07-26-2009, 11:32 AM	#8
Throwback Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Watson LA Posts: 105	Re: Changing a vin plate I see this thread being closed in the near future. Swapping vin plates is HIGHLY Illegal unless documented by a state official. Contact your Local DMV or State Trooper office to find out more. I would not do anything mentioned by others in this thread unless it involves the Legal route.

07-26-2009, 11:38 AM	#9
Skirkpat Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: K.C. Missouri Posts: 1,024	Re: Changing a vin plate WOW...Except for "check with the State Troopers" this thread is full of horrible, and illegal advice...did I say that out loud. __________________ 1969 Short Stepside 1969 4 WD Suburban 1970 1 Ton Dually....Misfit oh, and a 2001 HD 2500, 8.1 Allison Shortbed 4 Door

07-26-2009, 11:42 AM	#10
terd ferguson Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 531	Re: Changing a vin plate Throwback and Skirkpat are right. It is illegal to swap VINs. What I posted should not be considered advice, just jibber jabber. Just sayin'. __________________ "I never apologize. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am." - Homer J. Simpson 1955 2nd Series Chevy "King Of Trucks"

07-26-2009, 12:10 PM	#11
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Changing a vin plate I'm not swapping my vin...but I did pull it off to get the cab blasted, so now I need to re-attach it......are these correct? http://trimtags.com/rivets.html __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

07-26-2009, 12:32 PM	#12
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: Changing a vin plate Those look like them Joe __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62 Last edited by redneckgirl; 07-26-2009 at 12:47 PM. Reason: legality

07-26-2009, 12:49 PM	#13
redneckgirl Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Posts: 4,853	Re: Changing a vin plate Definately check with your local DMV. It may be required to involve the state police. Here in Maryland you do. ALSO...Any illegal advice posted in this thread WILL be removed. Keep it legal! __________________ The place where you made your stand never mattered. Only that you were there... and still on your feet. Stephen King

07-26-2009, 12:55 PM	#14
1971 GMC SHORTY Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SAN FERNANDO VALLE SOL CAL Posts: 1,064	Re: Changing a vin plate Thats a FEDERAL CRIME... You have to get it Blue Tagged bye the Highway Patrol...

07-26-2009, 12:56 PM	#15
71meangreenc10 Its a Truck Thing...... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona Posts: 3,179	Re: Changing a vin plate Those in the pic doesnt look like the rose bud rivets that 67-72 era trucks came with, I got lucky a few years ago and bought some on the board here because the body shop removed my tag without asking, talk to the DMV, they may be able to get you in the right direction, dont know if you plan on moving or how your state does inspections (if any) but some states will check the rivets to see if they have been replaced,,,,then its nothing but a headache after..... Smitty __________________ 71 C10 283/3SPD Full Resto 71 GMC 1500 Sierra Grande http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=518599 70 C10 Suburban Former military GSA truck. 72 Chevy Blazer 4X4, Sloppy Jo, Mountain Climber. Wife says no more trucks. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707378 72 GMC 1 Ton Motor Home, wife said no more trucks until she saw this one. Gen 3 6.0/4L80E 4.10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=761110 68 GMC Suburban was 3/4 ton, now 1/2.Wife shook her head 71 C30 Wrecker 71 C20 Scott-Bilt As weird as it gets..BB Cheyenne AC Truck 68 GMC Long Stepside. They keep following me home 69 C30 Former Motor Home, Flat Bed time 70 G20 Red-E-Kamp Conversion "I'm your Boogy Van" Last edited by 71meangreenc10; 07-26-2009 at 12:58 PM.



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07-26-2009, 01:00 PM	#16
71meangreenc10 Its a Truck Thing...... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona Posts: 3,179	Re: Changing a vin plate Squidbillies RULE....... Smitty __________________ 71 C10 283/3SPD Full Resto 71 GMC 1500 Sierra Grande http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=518599 70 C10 Suburban Former military GSA truck. 72 Chevy Blazer 4X4, Sloppy Jo, Mountain Climber. Wife says no more trucks. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707378 72 GMC 1 Ton Motor Home, wife said no more trucks until she saw this one. Gen 3 6.0/4L80E 4.10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=761110 68 GMC Suburban was 3/4 ton, now 1/2.Wife shook her head 71 C30 Wrecker 71 C20 Scott-Bilt As weird as it gets..BB Cheyenne AC Truck 68 GMC Long Stepside. They keep following me home 69 C30 Former Motor Home, Flat Bed time 70 G20 Red-E-Kamp Conversion "I'm your Boogy Van"

07-26-2009, 02:30 PM	#19
71meangreenc10 Its a Truck Thing...... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona Posts: 3,179	Re: Changing a vin plate Well,,, Speeking from my position (moving every 3+ years) sometimes I change titles from state to state, easier that way sometimes, I actually had the DMV inspect the vehicles, checking vins, checking frames climbing on my trucks to see if they were legit. Glad to here NC doesnt mess with 35+ year old vehicles as I have 3 of those. Hopefully its state wide and not by county. AZ does smog tests only in certain counties. Smitty Cant wait to find the DVD seasons of squidbillies.....when they ever come available. __________________ 71 C10 283/3SPD Full Resto 71 GMC 1500 Sierra Grande http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=518599 70 C10 Suburban Former military GSA truck. 72 Chevy Blazer 4X4, Sloppy Jo, Mountain Climber. Wife says no more trucks. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707378 72 GMC 1 Ton Motor Home, wife said no more trucks until she saw this one. Gen 3 6.0/4L80E 4.10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=761110 68 GMC Suburban was 3/4 ton, now 1/2.Wife shook her head 71 C30 Wrecker 71 C20 Scott-Bilt As weird as it gets..BB Cheyenne AC Truck 68 GMC Long Stepside. They keep following me home 69 C30 Former Motor Home, Flat Bed time 70 G20 Red-E-Kamp Conversion "I'm your Boogy Van"

07-26-2009, 07:57 PM	#22
70 Suburban Rods Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bryan, TX Posts: 1,398	Re: Changing a vin plate as stated the state has these rivits. if you do it corectly then they can supply them __________________ Just keepin it simple. 1965 C-10 Ext cab build. 350??(Does it count at 2 truck if I had to cut one up?) 1966 C-10 lwb 283 auto 1970 Suburban in pieces 1971 Blazer 4wd....restore someday. all factory CST 1972 Blazer 4wd parts truck still a roller 1972 GMC Sierra Grandee 1998 Chevy ext driver. 2005 F**D the wife drive...(cant fix women)

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