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Old 12-07-2009, 07:16 PM   #1
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Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

I'm not sure if it's right or not. But, I'm doing a disk swap on my '69, putting '71 disks on the front. I just got the passenger side a-arms and spindle put on tonight and it doesn't look right. It looks like it hits the steering stop way too early or something. I took some pics with my cell of the spindle straight and turned all the way to the left on the steering stop. And I took a pic of the spindle where it contacts the stop. Can anyone take a look and tell me if something looks wrong to them. maybe it's because is on jack stands and the problem will resolve it self when I get the weight of the truck back on the springs so to speak. Any way here are the pics.
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The tig welds are not the prettiest i have seen but they do have good penetration.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:18 PM   #2
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

I'll try to get better pics up tomorrow, it's getting late, cold, and I'm in a really bad mood because nothing seems to be go the way it should right now. With everything.
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The tig welds are not the prettiest i have seen but they do have good penetration.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:50 PM   #3
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

Matt,...
Are those stock 71 spindles or aftermarket?
I guess I'm use to looking at drop spindles.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:17 PM   #4
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

They're stock. I bought them from Big_al a few months back. They came off his 71.
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Old 12-08-2009, 12:14 PM   #5
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

It's hard to tell from the pics, and I can't recall if this is a factor, but could it be that the spindle hits the steering stop sooner at full droop when compared to ride height? Also could it be steering stops are different for a drum brake truck compared to a disc brake truck?
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:09 PM   #6
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It's hard to tell from the pics, and I can't recall if this is a factor, but could it be that the spindle hits the steering stop sooner at full droop when compared to ride height? Also could it be steering stops are different for a drum brake truck compared to a disc brake truck?
I was wondering the same thing last night at work. I guess I'll get everything put together and see what it does when it's an the ground. If that doesn't fix the problem, could I just cut off the steering stops or do I need them on there. The only thing I can think of is that the tires would rub when turning since there is nothing to stop them. Or I suppose I could cut them off, put everything together, and weld new stops to the LCA's. Any thoughts?
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:17 PM   #7
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

I say put it together and get it on the ground.
You can fix it when you ad your "drop spindles". Ha.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:32 PM   #8
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

Good point. I think I knew just where to get them too, *cough cough, project no life, cough cough*
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:03 AM   #9
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

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I was wondering the same thing last night at work. I guess I'll get everything put together and see what it does when it's an the ground. If that doesn't fix the problem, could I just cut off the steering stops or do I need them on there. The only thing I can think of is that the tires would rub when turning since there is nothing to stop them. Or I suppose I could cut them off, put everything together, and weld new stops to the LCA's. Any thoughts?
If you can cut/grind, and weld, you could probably modify rather than remove them. Like maybe cut away some material, but not all of it then weld in a piece of flat stock or what ever will fit and use that. Totally eliminating isn't the end of the world, but personally if I can I'd rather have a mechanical stop other than internal components of the box.
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:45 PM   #10
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

Well after little to no coersion from a very smart person, they are on their way out. The steering stops that is. I have one cut off, I just need to get good heater in the garage to get the other side back off to cut it off. Working in a garage that is,
A. not mine( townhome rental)
B. not insulated (about -10 this morning)
and C. did I mention COLD!
is no fun. Anyway, I'll cut them off, get it all together, check clearances and check back in, and most importantly snap a few pics of what I'm doing.
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Old 04-02-2011, 07:47 PM   #11
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

WOW!! to think, I haven't updated in over a year. Not to mention I haven't accomplished much over the past year. I got the steering stop situation fixed, caliper issues fixed, and everything I have for it on the truck. I finished a few small things and bled the breaks today. All I have left to do is order shocks, and get the exhaust redone.

Now for the dilemma I'm having. I've been referencing back and forth between 72BlkButy (Nate) and lolife99 (Keith) build threads. In Nate's build he used KYB shocks.
02-7002 Front KYB GR-2 Drop Shock (344068)
02-7510 Rear KYB GR-2 Drop Shock (344055)

When I searched the numbers they come up as stock height shocks. Mine will be 3"/5" when it is finished. My question is can I use the stock height shock or no. Logic tells me no, but I see for my self that Nate used them and I haven't heard or seen any complaints.

I know everyone and their dogs you know what (rhymes with gas) on this site has done the same if not similar drop, so please set me straight so I can get parts ordered. I know I'm probably over thinking this but I just need to be set straight. Thanks ahead of time to the advise and comments.
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Old 04-02-2011, 07:55 PM   #12
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

Hey Matt,... I'm sue those shocks are stock height,... but for a different application.
ECE doesn't manufacture shocks as "drop shocks",... they just found an oem shock for a different application that works with their drop kits.

If I remember right,... the rear shocks are actually a stock 4x4 front shock.
Use those 2 shock numbers in Nates thread and you will be fine.
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Old 04-02-2011, 08:05 PM   #13
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

Thanks, I'll try to get some pics up here in the next few days. Do you think it would hurt anything to put the wheels on and drive it with out shocks? Not any distance or anything, just to turn it around in the garage. I'm going to start on the rear as soon as I get the front finished.
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Old 04-02-2011, 08:08 PM   #14
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

No it won't hurt anything.
I'll be looking for pics.
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

you got it, when is goodguys this year? I may be able to make the tip this year
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Old 04-02-2011, 08:13 PM   #16
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Re: Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

Sweet! i just looked up the shocks on Advance auto's site and they have them cheaper the ece and a 20% off code.
Just over $100 for all 4 shocks shipped!!


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you got it, when is goodguys this year? I may be able to make the tip this year
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:04 AM   #18
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Something doesn't look right with my disk spindles

a little update: (key word little) The front is done except for shocks. I'll be starting on the rear this weekend I hope. The front is lowered with 3" springs, and all upgraded to 71-72 suspension with 6-lug disks. The rear will be 5" springs, shock relocators, and an adjustable panhard bar. I'll need to have the exhaust redone and ran all the way out the back. Right now it has mufflers hung under the trailing arm cross member with dumps. It was cheap and temporary. Anyway here are a couple pics. Front lowered 3" Rear Stock as of today.



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Old 04-12-2011, 09:32 AM   #19
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Looking good! Should be awesome when you get the rear down, keep up the good work.
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