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hotrod_991 · 12-29-2009, 02:49 PM

ok I have a 77 chevy lb I am wanting to bring down alittle. not slam or anthing like that. What would be the easiest and lowest drop kit that i can bold on with out notching? looking for 2 or 3 in front and 4 or 5 in back. Thanks in advance for the help.

SCOTI · 12-29-2009, 03:06 PM

A 2/4 drop would work w/o notching the rails for sure. You could possibly do a 4/6 if you didn't load the truck down often. Bolt-in c-sections are pretty easy to install if there's concern (Western Chassis, Bell Tech).

hotrod_991 · 12-29-2009, 03:57 PM

Thank you for the fast responce. I am not planing on loading it down with anything sept maybe from time to time but deff not a work truck. Do you think with a 4/6 i would be able to move my GSXR750 around with out damaging anything? The reason i dont want to notch is that i have no means of cutting the frame and i dont want the real lowered look. More after the agressive streetrod stance. Thanks

SCOTI · 12-29-2009, 04:06 PM

All it takes to cut the frame is a drill (for the corners) & an angle grinder w/a cut-off wheel. You can ususally get an angle grinder cheap on Craigslist or rent one @ a local rent-all place.

The 4/6 drop would be close & likely rub w/a 5-700# load @ speed on dips/bumps in the road surface.

hotrod_991 · 12-30-2009, 09:59 AM

how much of the structurel integrity do you lose with the notch? Is it bolt or weld cause i cant weld at all and wouldnt want to learn on my frame.

**N2TRUX** · 12-30-2009, 10:09 AM

You don't loose any structural integrity. In fact it might actually be stronger at that point due to the bracing built in to a C-notch.

SCOTI · 12-30-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrod_991

how much of the structurel integrity do you lose with the notch? Is it bolt or weld cause i cant weld at all and wouldnt want to learn on my frame.

A good idea are the two bolt-in style notches I listed. I've used both Western Chassis & Bell Tech so I know they're solid, well built parts. I like the type of bolt-in notch that @ least partially wraps around the top/bottom of the frame @ some point. The Western Chassis would be my top choice.

Use the provided GRADE-8 hardware to install the notch that so you know it will be structurally sound. If desired, you can 'practice' your welding skills on the outer edges (if you have the equipment & after getting the basics down on multiple pieces of scrap first).

smbrouss70 · 12-30-2009, 12:29 PM

I've made nice clean cuts on a frame with a jigsaw before. Just make sure you have plenty of metal blades. It's not the fastest way, but it is easily controlled.

hotrod_991 · 12-30-2009, 01:19 PM

now is the c notch from western 6 inch drop with 4 inch drop leaf springs or just the notch kit? its just and axle flip isnt it. did that on my 86 in highschool but we cut perchs off top and welded them on the bottom and removed the thick leaf

hotrod_991 · 12-30-2009, 01:47 PM

jsut got off the phone with western. decided to go with the complete 3/5 kit with the bolt in notch. Very reasonable price as well. Manuel was awesome guy to talk with. Thanks for all the help guys I really apreciate it. My build sheet is growin by the day.

SCOTI · 12-30-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod_991

jsut got off the phone with western. decided to go with the complete 3/5 kit with the bolt in notch. Very reasonable price as well. Manuel was awesome guy to talk with. Thanks for all the help guys I really apreciate it. My build sheet is growin by the day.

Pretty straight forward install but don't hesitate to seek help if you run into anything. The WC c-notches are round so a sawzall or jigsaw will get you a nice clean cut. I use the notch to make a cardboard template so the material I cut out is nice & consistent from side to side (professional looking).

andrewmp6 · 12-31-2009, 08:01 PM

Yeah a small notch like hes talking about will keep the frame strong and you can still use it as a truck.

hotrod_991 · 01-01-2010, 06:31 AM

yea im going to tackle that soon as i get home. and i like the idea of still being able to haul my bike around at times.

**N2TRUX** · 01-01-2010, 01:03 PM

Just make sure when you make your cuts you do not create and sharp corners. This will create a potential stress point that "could" eventually crack.

hotrod_991 · 01-01-2010, 05:00 PM

Thanks for the tip that would not have been good if I would have done that

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Just make sure when you make your cuts you do not create and sharp corners. This will create a potential stress point that "could" eventually crack.

KQQL IT · 01-01-2010, 05:44 PM

This my pile with out a notch in it. It rarely bottoms the axle into the frame the rear is flipped with a big 10 7 leaf pack

This is with 3 leaf light duty leaf pack and still no notch

hotrod_991 · 01-02-2010, 10:49 AM

that looks nice I am really stoked to get my drop kit on. What are you using for the front? prings or spindles? btw love those rims i was looking at a set a few days ago tryn to decide between the stock rallies and aftermarket

KQQL IT · 01-02-2010, 07:19 PM

I cut two coils off the stock springs. Thats probably not the correct way but...

12-29-2009, 02:49 PM	#1
hotrod_991 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 479	lowest drop w/o notch ok I have a 77 chevy lb I am wanting to bring down alittle. not slam or anthing like that. What would be the easiest and lowest drop kit that i can bold on with out notching? looking for 2 or 3 in front and 4 or 5 in back. Thanks in advance for the help. __________________ "Buckle up I wanna try somethin!!" "of course it will hold!, I welded it!" 1977 c10 under knife for full rebuild, 5.3l 4l60e drive rain swap, replacement frame and green repaint

12-29-2009, 03:06 PM	#2
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,080	Re: lowest drop w/o notch A 2/4 drop would work w/o notching the rails for sure. You could possibly do a 4/6 if you didn't load the truck down often. Bolt-in c-sections are pretty easy to install if there's concern (Western Chassis, Bell Tech). __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

12-29-2009, 03:57 PM	#3
hotrod_991 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 479	Re: lowest drop w/o notch Thank you for the fast responce. I am not planing on loading it down with anything sept maybe from time to time but deff not a work truck. Do you think with a 4/6 i would be able to move my GSXR750 around with out damaging anything? The reason i dont want to notch is that i have no means of cutting the frame and i dont want the real lowered look. More after the agressive streetrod stance. Thanks __________________ "Buckle up I wanna try somethin!!" "of course it will hold!, I welded it!" 1977 c10 under knife for full rebuild, 5.3l 4l60e drive rain swap, replacement frame and green repaint

12-29-2009, 04:06 PM	#4
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,080	Re: lowest drop w/o notch All it takes to cut the frame is a drill (for the corners) & an angle grinder w/a cut-off wheel. You can ususally get an angle grinder cheap on Craigslist or rent one @ a local rent-all place. The 4/6 drop would be close & likely rub w/a 5-700# load @ speed on dips/bumps in the road surface. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

12-30-2009, 09:59 AM	#5
hotrod_991 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 479	Re: lowest drop w/o notch how much of the structurel integrity do you lose with the notch? Is it bolt or weld cause i cant weld at all and wouldnt want to learn on my frame. __________________ "Buckle up I wanna try somethin!!" "of course it will hold!, I welded it!" 1977 c10 under knife for full rebuild, 5.3l 4l60e drive rain swap, replacement frame and green repaint

12-30-2009, 10:09 AM	#6
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Re: lowest drop w/o notch You don't loose any structural integrity. In fact it might actually be stronger at that point due to the bracing built in to a C-notch. __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

12-30-2009, 12:29 PM	#8
smbrouss70 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rayne, LA Posts: 2,781	Re: lowest drop w/o notch I've made nice clean cuts on a frame with a jigsaw before. Just make sure you have plenty of metal blades. It's not the fastest way, but it is easily controlled. __________________ Steven "If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go wherever they went." -- Will Rogers R.I.P. Oscar R.I.P. Ratchet 1967 Pontiac GTO - Dad was the Original Owner 1970 Chevy 2wd SWB "Oscar's Truck" 1970 Chevy 2wd Blazer "Ratchet's Blazer" 2013 Chevy 2500HD Crew Cab Duramax/Allison Z71 LTZ "Brown Sugar" 2017 Chevy Suburban "BDB" 2020 Chevy Blazer Premier "Foxy" Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Shop Build

12-30-2009, 01:19 PM	#9
hotrod_991 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 479	Re: lowest drop w/o notch now is the c notch from western 6 inch drop with 4 inch drop leaf springs or just the notch kit? its just and axle flip isnt it. did that on my 86 in highschool but we cut perchs off top and welded them on the bottom and removed the thick leaf __________________ "Buckle up I wanna try somethin!!" "of course it will hold!, I welded it!" 1977 c10 under knife for full rebuild, 5.3l 4l60e drive rain swap, replacement frame and green repaint

12-30-2009, 01:47 PM	#10
hotrod_991 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 479	Re: lowest drop w/o notch jsut got off the phone with western. decided to go with the complete 3/5 kit with the bolt in notch. Very reasonable price as well. Manuel was awesome guy to talk with. Thanks for all the help guys I really apreciate it. My build sheet is growin by the day. __________________ "Buckle up I wanna try somethin!!" "of course it will hold!, I welded it!" 1977 c10 under knife for full rebuild, 5.3l 4l60e drive rain swap, replacement frame and green repaint

12-31-2009, 08:01 PM	#12
andrewmp6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 5,811	Re: lowest drop w/o notch Yeah a small notch like hes talking about will keep the frame strong and you can still use it as a truck.

01-01-2010, 06:31 AM	#13
hotrod_991 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 479	Re: lowest drop w/o notch yea im going to tackle that soon as i get home. and i like the idea of still being able to haul my bike around at times. __________________ "Buckle up I wanna try somethin!!" "of course it will hold!, I welded it!" 1977 c10 under knife for full rebuild, 5.3l 4l60e drive rain swap, replacement frame and green repaint

01-01-2010, 01:03 PM	#14
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Re: lowest drop w/o notch Just make sure when you make your cuts you do not create and sharp corners. This will create a potential stress point that "could" eventually crack. __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

01-01-2010, 05:44 PM	#16
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,273	Re: lowest drop w/o notch This my pile with out a notch in it. It rarely bottoms the axle into the frame the rear is flipped with a big 10 7 leaf pack This is with 3 leaf light duty leaf pack and still no notch __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment " Last edited by KQQL IT; 01-01-2010 at 05:48 PM.

01-02-2010, 10:49 AM	#17
hotrod_991 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 479	Re: lowest drop w/o notch that looks nice I am really stoked to get my drop kit on. What are you using for the front? prings or spindles? btw love those rims i was looking at a set a few days ago tryn to decide between the stock rallies and aftermarket __________________ "Buckle up I wanna try somethin!!" "of course it will hold!, I welded it!" 1977 c10 under knife for full rebuild, 5.3l 4l60e drive rain swap, replacement frame and green repaint

01-02-2010, 07:19 PM	#18
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,273	Re: lowest drop w/o notch I cut two coils off the stock springs. Thats probably not the correct way but... __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment "



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